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Back this up then Einstein. Interested to hear what sh*t you come up with.

he is right, although, offensive - I work at an antenna engineering company and I've seen designs that look very strange that work very well from an electrical standpoint. Its possible that the aluminum sides are the phones' antenna(s) for the different wireless protocols it uses (GSM, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, etc.). The gaps would then be important as to not short out the different antenna elements. This would be interesting if the phones antenna(s) was/were moved to the exterior of the device instead of the all-to common inside-the-phone variety. its Possible at least...

http://www.antennasonline.com/images/Application%20Profiles/JEM.pdf
link to a story of an antenna that was used in a NASA mission developed by us (and genetic algorithms).
 
I just wanted a peak -- not the whole thing unwrapped!

Anybody else feel like Gizmodo just spoiled Christmas by telling us what was inside all the presents?

Maybe its more like somebody just told me that Darth Vader is Luke's father before going to see Empire Strikes Back.

I am one who likes to get a little info, but never have the whole thing spoiled. This kinda ruins all the fun.
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Anybody else feel like Gizmodo just spoiled Christmas by telling us what was inside all the presents?

Maybe its more like somebody just told me that Darth Vader is Luke's father before going to see Empire Strikes Back.

I am one who likes to get a little info, but never have the whole thing spoiled. This kinda ruins all the fun.
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I agree, but we still don't know if this is the actual final design. We know it's authentic, but is it an early prototype? Is it ready for production? Are those the final materials?

The new iPhone could very well be different than this.
 
Not a real surprise. Apple has seemed to be going the route of larger non removables rather than a frame and a smaller removable battery.
 
Not a real surprise. Apple has seemed to be going the route of larger non removables rather than a frame and a smaller removable battery.
Because Apple are catering for the greater consumer interest.

I've yet to see any compelling evidence that anyone but a minority of people regularly switch their mobile phone battery. It's more important to have one which can last longer (i.e. the whole day until next charge) and a phone with a quality finish which is structurally durable.
 
Its possible that the aluminum sides are the phones' antenna(s) for the different wireless protocols it uses (GSM, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, etc.). The gaps would then be important as to not short out the different antenna elements. This would be interesting if the phones antenna(s) was/were moved to the exterior of the device instead of the all-to common inside-the-phone variety. its Possible at least...
But then what's the point of the ceramic back? Apple filed a patent for use of zirconium dioxide as the case material for mobile devices in 2006, and this phone is the result of that research. The whole idea behind it was that it offers excellent transparency for the radio signals. If they were going to use the sides as the antenna anyway, the whole zirconia thing was for nothing. I also shudder to think what kind of SAR rating the iPhone would get if the whole damn phone was a giant 3G antenna...

Because Apple are catering for the greater consumer interest.

I've yet to see any compelling evidence that anyone but a minority of people regularly switch their mobile phone battery. It's more important to have one which can last longer (i.e. the whole day until next charge) and a phone with a quality finish which is structurally durable.
Correct, although the iPhone has inspired entirely different usage patterns than previous cellphones so we'll never know if people would've switched batteries often on iPhones -- they never had the chance. But judging by the myriad external power packs available for the iPhone, it *is* an issue. Back when I used Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones, it was only for voice and text, and I mostly use my land phone since I work at home, so those phones could sometimes go a week on standby between charges. The iPhone on the other hand, I have to recharge daily, and it's the first ever phone of mine that's run out of juice when I'm out and about. And what good is a combined phone / gaming device / music player / video player / web browser / email client / GPS navigator if you have to avoid 80% of those activities if you want a charge to last the whole day?
 
Crumple zones? What if it lands on the other end?
It does not matter much where the break lies - as long as it soaks-up some energy. The thing to avoid is the shock going into the glass.

Every phone I can think of is made with some amount of plastic. This is the first phone with a shell made of ridgid metal and rigid glass.

C.
 
A better title would be:

Prototype iPhone Dissected, STILL No User Removable Battery :rolleyes:
 
But then what's the point of the ceramic back? Apple filed a patent for use of zirconium dioxide as the case material for mobile devices in 2006, and this phone is the result of that research. The whole idea behind it was that it offers excellent transparency for the radio signals. If they were going to use the sides as the antenna anyway, the whole zirconia thing was for nothing. I also shudder to think what kind of SAR rating the iPhone would get if the whole damn phone was a giant 3G antenna...


Maybe thats where a GPS antenna will go - behind the zirconium so that, when held in front of you and/or in a holder the backside faces the sky to permit the RF radiation to pass through more freely than before (GPS uses a different kind of antenna technology anyway which involves phase shifting so it likely wouldn't be the same as the antennas for GSM/WiFi/Bluetooth).


Also Apple has been known to have patents for seemingly nothing- just in case or for things for many years later so I don't know.
 
oh WOW iPhone 4!

iPhone 3,4,5,6 all will suck!
How many megapixel is that freaking camera?2?3?ohhhh and I bought a new 32gb 3GS some months ago ... and guess what?Soon I will stop using it!
Lucky me that I live in Japan and we have far far more advanced mobile than the rest of the world ... bought my new Fujitsu, 12Mp camera .... iPhone 2Mpixel?3Mpixel? and people is happy ?
Moron me too, what I was thinking when I bought the iPhone 3GS???
Oh yeah 3GS stand for 3time Great Suckers!
using my Macbook or my brand new :apple:iMac 27inches i5 is AMAZING but iPhone .... ohhhh is it a mobile?It's a monster!:eek:
Tell me why I have to jailbreak into my mobile for change the wallpaper or the icons or even use as ringtone a song?Oh I forgot even the crappiest Nokia can do that but the super iPhone noooooooo!
Tell to my Mom that like to have on her nokya our family photo, tell her to jailbreak the iPhone, JaIL WHAT?isn't the iPhone for everybody?
SUCKER me that I bought it!But there is a remedy about that, throw the iPhone in the toilette and flush it, that's the right use.
 
iPhone 3,4,5,6 all will suck!
How many megapixel is that freaking camera?2?3?ohhhh and I bought a new 32gb 3GS some months ago ... and guess what?Soon I will stop using it!
Lucky me that I live in Japan and we have far far more advanced mobile than the rest of the world ... bought my new Fujitsu, 12Mp camera .... iPhone 2Mpixel?3Mpixel? and people is happy ?
Moron me too, what I was thinking when I bought the iPhone 3GS???
Oh yeah 3GS stand for 3time Great Suckers!
using my Macbook or my brand new :apple:iMac 27inches i5 is AMAZING but iPhone .... ohhhh is it a mobile?It's a monster!:eek:
Tell me why I have to jailbreak into my mobile for change the wallpaper or the icons or even use as ringtone a song?Oh I forgot even the crappiest Nokia can do that but the super iPhone noooooooo!
Tell to my Mom that like to have on her nokya our family photo, tell her to jailbreak the iPhone, JaIL WHAT?isn't the iPhone for everybody?
SUCKER me that I bought it!But there is a remedy about that, throw the iPhone in the toilette and flush it, that's the right use.

There isn't even one thing you said that makes the least bit of sense. (And, btw, in OS 4 you can set your wallpaper to whatever you want. And 12 megapixels on a cellphone is retarded - why do you want noisy crappy photos that, as a side benefit, also take a ton of file space?)
 
iPhone 3,4,5,6 all will suck!
How many megapixel is that freaking camera?2?3?ohhhh and I bought a new 32gb 3GS some months ago ... and guess what?Soon I will stop using it!
Lucky me that I live in Japan and we have far far more advanced mobile than the rest of the world ... bought my new Fujitsu, 12Mp camera .... iPhone 2Mpixel?3Mpixel? and people is happy ?
Moron me too, what I was thinking when I bought the iPhone 3GS???
Oh yeah 3GS stand for 3time Great Suckers!
using my Macbook or my brand new :apple:iMac 27inches i5 is AMAZING but iPhone .... ohhhh is it a mobile?It's a monster!:eek:
Tell me why I have to jailbreak into my mobile for change the wallpaper or the icons or even use as ringtone a song?Oh I forgot even the crappiest Nokia can do that but the super iPhone noooooooo!
Tell to my Mom that like to have on her nokya our family photo, tell her to jailbreak the iPhone, JaIL WHAT?isn't the iPhone for everybody?
SUCKER me that I bought it!But there is a remedy about that, throw the iPhone in the toilette and flush it, that's the right use.

Are you okay man? Do you wanna talk about it? Just know that I'm here for you.

Get well soon!
 
Can they see what the camera is. I hope they improved it! I know the video said it had a flash tho!!!!!!

Camera? CMON what camera you want in the new iPhone 4 sucker?
3Mp?4Mp?Here in Japan tha crappiest mobile has now 8Mp camera ... and user face camera too for video call, iPhone????Uh?What?Can't hear you?
Oh and unfortunately I bought a 3GS iphone 32GB ...... I can gladly give it to a bum in the street!
Oh don't talk about battery discharged ... what ?Oh any crappiest mobile can replace the battery but iPhone that is a "HIGH technologically advanced mobile" can't do it.And the new one is bigger?Are we going back to the old mobile phones in the 1980-1990?
Oh you want to use a song (because iPhone is full of songs, it's an iPod too!) as ringtone!BUZZZ!Wrong request!Submit it to Apple and see in maybe 10 years or Jailbreak it!Oh yeah Jail break what?Do you think that a common mobile user that buy an iPhone knows what is jailbreak?
 
Camera? CMON what camera you want in the new iPhone 4 sucker?
3Mp?4Mp?Here in Japan tha crappiest mobile has now 8Mp camera ... and user face camera too for video call, iPhone????Uh?What?Can't hear you?
Oh and unfortunately I bought a 3GS iphone 32GB ...... I can gladly give it to a bum in the street!
Oh don't talk about battery discharged ... what ?Oh any crappiest mobile can replace the battery but iPhone that is a "HIGH technologically advanced mobile" can't do it.And the new one is bigger?Are we going back to the old mobile phones in the 1980-1990?
Oh you want to use a song (because iPhone is full of songs, it's an iPod too!) as ringtone!BUZZZ!Wrong request!Submit it to Apple and see in maybe 10 years or Jailbreak it!Oh yeah Jail break what?Do you think that a common mobile user that buy an iPhone knows what is jailbreak?

If you're going to be a troll, at least be an interesting troll.
 
Can they see what the camera is. I hope they improved it! I know the video said it had a flash tho!!!!!!

There isn't even one thing you said that makes the least bit of sense. (And, btw, in OS 4 you can set your wallpaper to whatever you want. And 12 megapixels on a cellphone is retarded - why do you want noisy crappy photos that, as a side benefit, also take a ton of file space?)

For your information even the crappiest 3mp camera can be setted as different resolutions.
Oh and by the way a freaking 16GB mini sd card cost around 3000 yen here in Japan that is around ..let's see 30 bucks in US?Ohhh nooo but we have to pay 600$ for a 32GB big monster.
But tell me tell me what about the not interchangeable battery?
And the front face user camera for video call?No sign last year or the year before, how come that almost all mobiles have it?
The nonsense is try to defend a product that is garbage.
It's not even better thean other mobiles and you (including me also) are paying a lto for it.
Why people can't admit that iPhone suck?Apple computer are AMAZING, I myself have a macbook and a 27 inches iMac i5, but iPhone ... iPad ... cmon be honest.
 
For your information even the crappiest 3mp camera can be setted as different resolutions.

No it can't. A 3MP camera has a resolution of 3MP. And "setted" is not a word.

Oh and by the way a freaking 16GB mini sd card cost around 3000 yen here in Japan that is around ..let's see 30 bucks in US?Ohhh nooo but we have to pay 600$ for a 32GB big monster.

Does your 16GB mini sd card have a screen? Does it have a web browser? What the heck are you talking about?

And the front face user camera for video call?No sign last year or the year before, how come that almost all mobiles have it?

No, "almost all mobiles" do NOT have it. And it IS coming to the next iPhone. That's what this thread is about.
 
That sums of those posts nicely.

Yes it's true, for buying a iPhone I am.
At least i Admit it, better than those people using iPhone and when I show them my japanese mobile they would like to throw the iPhone outside the window.
But hey guess what ... the iPhone 4 is coming eh eh ... improvement?
Battery ..... nope still can't replace it, size .. more bigger ,Oh geez we are in 2010 trying to have much more smaller devices and they make it bigger?
Oh and the new OS will allow you to change your wallpaper .... welcome in the 2010, almost all mobiles can do it from almost 10 years ago?
 
For your information even the crappiest 3mp camera can be setted as different resolutions.
Oh and by the way a freaking 16GB mini sd card cost around 3000 yen here in Japan that is around ..let's see 30 bucks in US?Ohhh nooo but we have to pay 600$ for a 32GB big monster.
But tell me tell me what about the not interchangeable battery?
And the front face user camera for video call?No sign last year or the year before, how come that almost all mobiles have it?
The nonsense is try to defend a product that is garbage.
It's not even better thean other mobiles and you (including me also) are paying a lto for it.
Why people can't admit that iPhone suck?Apple computer are AMAZING, I myself have a macbook and a 27 inches iMac i5, but iPhone ... iPad ... cmon be honest.

So what's the best phone then? Would love to hear that.

:confused:
 
No it can't. A 3MP camera has a resolution of 3MP. And "setted" is not a word.



Does your 16GB mini sd card have a screen? Does it have a web browser? What the heck are you talking about?



No, "almost all mobiles" do NOT have it. And it IS coming to the next iPhone. That's what this thread is about.


For your information any japanese mobile even the one with 12mp camera have a setting for change the resolution of the photo you want take.
16Gb minisdcard is a card and easy interchangeable in a common mobile phone like you do in a common camera.And yes my mobile as screen, browser (far mor faster than iPhone, unfortunately I still have iPhone too).
User face camera is present in almost all mobiles in Japan and in may mobile in Europe.
 
For your information any japanese mobile even the one with 12mp camera have a setting for change the resolution of the photo you want take.

That doesn't change the sensor resolution. All that does is combine pixels. You can't change the physical resolution of the sensor. For your information.

16Gb minisdcard is a card and easy interchangeable in a common mobile phone like you do in a common camera.And yes my mobile as screen, browser (far mor faster than iPhone, unfortunately I still have iPhone too).
User face camera is present in almost all mobiles in Japan and in may mobile in Europe.

Look - you complained that a 16GB mini sd card is cheaper than an iPhone. I asked if your mini sd card can place phone calls. You responded with a non sequitor.

You are being nonsensical, or you don't speak English?
 
That doesn't change the sensor resolution. All that does is combine pixels. You can't change the physical resolution of the sensor. For your information.



Look - you complained that a 16GB mini sd card is cheaper than an iPhone. I asked if your mini sd card can place phone calls. You responded with a non sequitor.

You are being nonsensical, or you don't speak English?

Oh sorry, yes my 16GB minisdcard can make phone calls!no I'm joking, of course it can't.But you discussed about space for photos and I replied that using a cheap minisdcard in a mobile phone doesn't bother you with space problem in fact it's cheap and you can replace it in a second like you do in a camera.
If iPhone had one slot for a card that will be a clever thing, and don't tell me that there is no room for that, because I can't believe it.
And yes I'm italian, forgive me for my bad english.
 
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