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I wouldn't be at all surprised by a Verizon phone this year though. It's all about adoption and market share now Google are on the scene. It's entirely possible as far as I can guess.
No, there will be no iPhone on Verizon this year. And probably not next year either. Just forget about it for the time being. Ain't gonna happen.
 
This story is showing up everywhere. All of the major networks are carrying it, tech blogs, Reddit, Digg, HuffPo, Keith Olbermann gave it a segment, even the NYTs had an article about this prototype.

I don't think the iPhone 4 even needed that much attention, I was looking forward to it as soon as I got my 3GS. I wonder what initial sales are expected to be.
 
So you're putting your faith of news coverage into Gizmodo because they say it's all true? How do you know what accuracy is when Gizdumo isn't even a reliable news source?

As you will notice, no major news agencies (CNN, Wall Street Journal) have even bothered picking up the story.

Oh saint preserve us, do you even read the news before commenting.

http://www.innovationtoronto.com/2010/04/next-iphone-revealed/

http://news.yahoo.com/video/losange...-revealed-mistake-or-publicity-stunt-19231060

http://business-news.thestreet.com/...68140-apple-s-4th-generation-iphone-revealed/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/...campaign=Feed:+weblogsinc/engadget+(Engadget)

http://onespot.wsj.com/technology/2010/04/19/a/614066686-apple-s-4th-generation-iphone-revealed/

Also New York Times but that was yesterday. Yes its true no one else thought it was interesting, there where other things happening in the world that supersedes fanboy mania.

And those are just a few, I know its hard to understand how the Google search works, its ok we understand your laps of judgement and the cause of it.
 
This story is showing up everywhere. All of the major networks are carrying it, tech blogs, Reddit, Digg, HuffPo, Keith Olbermann gave it a segment, even the NYTs had an article about this prototype.

I don't think the iPhone 4 even needed that much attention, I was looking forward to it as soon as I got my 3GS. I wonder what initial sales are expected to be.

Stunt or not, a part of apples marketing must be droooooling.
 
Thank you. Glad to know you have an insiders scoop. I will renew my AT&T contract immediately.

No, there will be no iPhone on Verizon this year. And probably not next year either. Just forget about it for the time being. Ain't gonna happen.
 
I wouldn't be at all surprised by a Verizon phone this year though. It's all about adoption and market share now Google are on the scene. It's entirely possible as far as I can guess.

Sorry but not going to happen, this is Apple not Microsoft. Apple sleeps with whom ever they want, and does not care who says what or how much we plead with them to change beds. I can't see Apple leaving ATT for a few years. It could happen one day, yes it could, as soon as ATT pisses off Steve The Messiah Jobs. Then watch how fast that hot steamy relationship ends in a burst.

Till then ATT will continue to enjoy the stroking of Apple. :D

And we will have to take it or get a Droid :(
 
As you will notice, no major news agencies (CNN, Wall Street Journal) have even bothered picking up the story.
Those guys won't say how Denton got played. They're too gentlemanly (unlike Denton).

This whole episode is a complete joke. Apple disseminated what little information they wanted leaked. We don't even know if it's a dead end or not.
 
Sorry but not going to happen, this is Apple not Microsoft. Apple sleeps with whom ever they want, and does not care who says what or how much we plead with them to change beds. I can't see Apple leaving ATT for a few years. It could happen one day, yes it could, as soon as ATT pisses off Steve The Messiah Jobs. Then watch how fast that hot steamy relationship in a burst.

Till then ATT will continue to enjoy the stroking of Apple. :D

And will have to take it or get a Droid :(

I'm not so sure. As far as I know (I'm sure you'll all pitch in), Apple aren't obliged to stick with only AT&T. The competition is huge and the stakes are high. If it is an issue important to customers, Apple is a business etc, they will get round to rectifying it. They have seen a lot of growth since adopting multi-carrier strategies outside the US.
 
Thank you. Glad to know you have an insiders scoop. I will renew my AT&T contract immediately.
Look, I have no insider's scoop.

It simply boils down to the fact that Apple has not had a hiring spree of CDMA hardware engineers. If they had a bunch of open job reqs, the media would have reported it.

Plus the fact that Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg basicallly begged for the iPhone a month or two ago. Apple business partners tend to clam up real tight when there's a potential deal in the horizon.

There will be no Verizon iPhone this year.

There's probably a slight chance that the iPhone would come to T-Mobile. Adapting the hardware to T-Mobile USA's unique 3G data frequency (AWS) would be a minor engineering hurdle at best (there are many jailbroken iPhones on T-Mobile using GSM for voice and EDGE for data already).
 
Look, I have no insider's scoop.

It simply boils down to the fact that Apple has not had a hiring spree of CDMA hardware engineers. If they had a bunch of open job reqs, the media would have reported it.

Plus the fact that Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg basicallly begged for the iPhone a month or two ago. Apple business partners tend to clam up real tight when there's a potential deal in the horizon.

There will be no Verizon iPhone this year.

There's probably a slight chance that the iPhone would come to T-Mobile. Adapting the hardware to T-Mobile USA's unique 3G data frequency (AWS) would be a minor engineering hurdle at best (there are many jailbroken iPhones on T-Mobile using GSM for voice and EDGE for data already).

OK, what he said...:p
 
I'm not so sure. As far as I know (I'm sure you'll all pitch in), Apple aren't obliged to stick with only AT&T. The competition is huge and the stakes are high. If it is an issue important to customers, Apple is a business etc, they will get round to rectifying it. They have seen a lot of growth since adopting multi-carrier strategies outside the US.

Oh I am with you, don't get me wrong I can't stand ATT, bugs me to no end that I have to use them. But I just don't see it. Apple for some reason likes that AT&T is kissing their back. And if I am not mistaken, please someone fill in if I am wrong, Verison got a chance and walked away from it.

If nothing else, Steve does not like when he is dismissed. Over the years I would say that when Apple holds a grudge they hold it for a long time. From apple point of view what would they gain, a few more sales? Have you seen the last figures for apple revenue. Stock are sky high, and Apple is Steve baby, its more of a love affair than just another company.

I mean sure different people like one company or another, but Apple is in its own little world. I am sure plenty of company would love to see something like we have seen in the last 2 days happen to them, but no one really cares.
 
Oh I am with you, don't get me wrong I can't stand ATT, bugs me to no end that I have to use them. But I just don't see it. Apple for some reason likes that AT&T is kissing their back. And if I am not mistaken, please someone fill in if I am wrong, Verison got a chance and walked away from it.

Perhaps their exclusivity so far has been just down to the fact that AT&T were there from the start. I think it's pretty common when a company (like AT&T) take a risk with a new supplier that they get "their ear" for some time and get special treatment. Certainly happens all the time in my line of work. If you remember back to the subsidized plans that Apple managed to get - it was a master play by Apple taking some of the risk out of deploying a new handset.

I doubt it'll be long before the US gets a multi-carrier strategy. Good luck to you! :)
 
Because it's Apples fault for not keeping tighter restrictions on a "secret" device, if it meant that much then it should've been under more security.

You must be from the old school of "She was asking for it" defense.
 
You must be from the old school of "She was asking for it" defense.

Very bad defense. As bad as I just did not know the law officer.


All I know is that except for the side buttons which just seem out of place, I would have to say if the phone went on sale tomorrow I get one. I don't care if Steve gets his 5 minute high, the phone looks good and I am sure the spec will be up to par with the look. Considering the 3GS is plenty of power I can't see the next gen. not been all that I need.

Now for video on the ipad and I am a happy man.
 
So you could say, this could be a career destroying move for Jason Chen. Pity.

If, IF this is really not an Apple PR stunt, some people at Gizmodo aren't going to get much sleep for a long time.

Either way, someone is going to lose with me. If it's an Apple PR stunt then they have just diminished me as a loyal consumer. If it's not, well I've already deleted my Gizmodo bookmark.

It is not an apple pr stunt. People hunting that dog are just way off course.

It all comes down to a dude stealing a phone and website run by a bunch of melon heads.

Apple did not plan this. Apple did not conspire to propogate this or anything else. Apple likely found out about around the time most of us did. By the time their attorneys investigated and got more information they sent a letter to Gizmodo. That is the extent of it.

Like I said yesterday, Apple probably knew the phone was lost back from the day or so after it was lost. This is how we know it is high unlikely they person who STOLE it made any good faith effort to return it. Apple security and whomever would have revisited such places looking for the device, as might the engineer who lost it.

What most likely happened is this guy stole it, thought it was a broken iPhone and then after smoking 50-80 bong loads, stumbled around the web and realized it was something else. At this point he started contact tech web sites trying to sell it. To entice them he sent them photos of the device.

All this time Apple has no idea where the device is or who has it. They just know it is lost somewhere. (Which is also seems to be supported by the fact that it was remote wiped.)

So after legitimate websites got the info and told the guy some order of we are not going to pay for your stolen property, you should probably give it back to apple, one dumb website, run by the previously mentioned melon heads, knowingly forked out 5k for the stolen device.

Then proceeded to even start to disassemble it. Then weeks later make some lame attempt to say all they were waiting for was for Apple to ask for it back. Apple asked for it back as soon as they knew that Gizmodo posted about it. I have seen no evidence that Gizmodo contacted Apple's Press department, for example, and told them they had come into possession of the device or any such thing.

I hope no hackers innocently fling packets and other thing at gizmodo. That would be a horrible injustice.

Back to the point, Apple had no hand in this at all, and wish none of it happened. It is likely they will do nothing further and wait for it to blow over. In a perfect world they would aggressively go after Gizmodo for what they did and also determine who stole it.
 
Anyone else think this looks like one HUGE antenna?

open17.jpg

It could be the cellular antenna instead of the thin sticker at the bottom of the current model. However, the display has a metal back at the moment. In these pics, it looks like it has a plastic one.

Problem is, this time the cellular antenna is facing the user's face (I guess the problem before was it was often covered by the user's hand. If this is the cellular antenna, its enourmous size should help counter this.

SAR measurements may be higher being closer to the user's head though.
 
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