When iPhone were small I never asked for more cameras. What I had always wanted was bigger and. better screens and longer battery life. The 17 pros chuck is too much. My 16 pro max was already too much but I used it cause thats all that was out there.
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iPhone Air The psychology of the iPhone Air crash outs
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Most consumers will go for a tried and true product, especially at $999 and buying through a carrier with inconvenient return options.
Apple's newest lineup includes four products, with the Air at the bottom of the battery life comparison. A normal person is going to pick something in the middle. They're not going to dig around to compare with 16 Plus.
Same with the cameras. If they're uncertain, most consumers will choose something they're familiar with - which is 2 or more lenses.
There's sure an awful lot of gas being blown about the Air, on both sides of the coin.
It's really simple: If you want one, buy it; if you don't want one, don't. What difference does it make what phone anybody else chooses, and what need is there to justify your own decision to others either way, or try to convince them why they should/shouldn't buy it?
If somebody else is buying my phone and paying my cell bill every month, I'll defer and let them choose what phone I use. Fortunately I'm not in that situation, so it's nobody else's business but mine.
It's really simple: If you want one, buy it; if you don't want one, don't. What difference does it make what phone anybody else chooses, and what need is there to justify your own decision to others either way, or try to convince them why they should/shouldn't buy it?
If somebody else is buying my phone and paying my cell bill every month, I'll defer and let them choose what phone I use. Fortunately I'm not in that situation, so it's nobody else's business but mine.
How polarizing and argument inducing this year’s lineup is has made this the most exciting Apple product launch in YEARS.👏🏼
Especially since you genuinely can’t go wrong with any of them. It really all comes down to personal preference, needs and use cases.
Especially since you genuinely can’t go wrong with any of them. It really all comes down to personal preference, needs and use cases.
Oh yeah? Well say hello to my “leetle fren”… can charge and hedge simultaneously…. the new Pros coordinate effortlessly with an entire range of Black&Decker equipment and with the jumpsuits of certain members of society I see dutifully collecting trash along the highway.
And that’s the difference. You allow others to make the best choice for themselves.
Clearly the Air isn’t for everyone just as the base or Pro are not for everyone. Personally I ordered the Pro Max. But why be angry about the Air or anyone who is happy to get one. If the Air doesn’t meet someone’s needs, they’re lucky because there are three others iPhones available — all good choices like you said.
This situation you described with the Air is similar to the reaction by some to the Vision Pro. There were people posting their favorite features, how they are using it, what they like and don’t like. But others who didn’t want or couldn’t afford a Vision Pro did their very best to mock the buyers and the device. Oftentimes they knew very little about the device but still threw out random negative posts.
One person would just go to any post that was remotely positive about the Vision Pro and add the laughing emoji presumably to mock the buyer. The person’s posts were all negative seemingly intended to wet blanket the excitement of others.
I was hoping the Air buyers would be spared this.
Apple makes many products I don’t need or want. That doesn’t make me angry or upset.
They make many products that I do want. That makes me happy.
Just a little. Or a sillily large amount.
They're phones. They're nice phones, but they're still just phones. They're not going to make your life any more meaningful or worthwhile.
No-one really cares what model iPhone you have, unless they've such empty lives that they use phones as a metric to judge people. If you know the type of people who do think it's very important what phone you (not they) have, find new people.
Buy either the phone that suits your needs, or spend more than you need on a phone that exceeds your needs, if that's what makes you happy. It's your money.
If you're having a crisis of identity over a phone, neither the pro nor an air nor a pixel nor a 25 year year old Nokia is going to help. Because the issue isn't the phone.
Hmm, now you got me wondering if the Air is as indestructible as my old Nokia 3310. I kinda miss being able to charge my phone once a week.
They were pretty damn cool. If I wanted a phone to just be a phone (calls, sms), Nokia pretty much perfected that. What killed Nokia is that they made phones that didn't need to be upgraded or replaced. Which killed their sales. Once you had a decent Nokia, you didn't need to buy another.
The problem is these days being a phone is way down on the list of things we use our "phones" for. I'm surprised we still use the word "phone" for them.
I've actually played around with the idea of not having a phone to be a phone, and instead having an Apple Watch with AirPods to be a phone. Because the Watch is more like an "old school" phone than an iPhone is. Calls, texts, time, alarm, and no doomscrolling. But still everyday charging. :-(
It's a pity the Watches are still (partially) tethered to iphones rather than being completely independent.
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Not that I think they look great, but the logo being centered in the glass looks better imo than the renders that had it centered on the phone. It adds some visual weight to the bottom, to offset how much is going on with the plateau and cameras at the top
Regardless, not as attractive as the Air that’s for sure, but totally fine based on it’s use case. A tool watch isn’t as pretty as a dress watch either
I’m not sure what you meant, but in my opinion, it’s precisely tech-savvy people who might lean more toward the Pro models, especially if specs and different cameras are their top priority. Then there are so-called regular users, who do everyday things with their phones and might also want premium and stylish design. They will probably lean toward the Air. The Pros are technically impressive devices, but the style of the latest 17 Pro models is very utilitarian.
I didn’t come away from the KeyNote with the impression the iPhone Air had disrupted the hierarchy of the Pro’s being the most desirable at all. It felt for me, like a single camera SE with a Pro chip, a small battery, a bit more RAM, and a polished frame, and at a mid tier price point. The Pro phones are still the most desired and the fact they’ve sold out with the Air still being available seems to back that up.
My biggest surprise this year was how good the 17 is and I think for most users it’s the better option. The lack of A19 Pro chip compared to the Air is irrelevant judging by the tests I have watched. Personally, I think we are going to see a lot of complaints about the Air here once it’s in people’s hands. For those that love it, enjoy your phone, it’s an iPhone with the same interface we all use, after all.
My biggest surprise this year was how good the 17 is and I think for most users it’s the better option. The lack of A19 Pro chip compared to the Air is irrelevant judging by the tests I have watched. Personally, I think we are going to see a lot of complaints about the Air here once it’s in people’s hands. For those that love it, enjoy your phone, it’s an iPhone with the same interface we all use, after all.
Lol, I kinda used my 3310 more often for Snake and Space Impact than actual calls/sms.😅
I have to ask, if going from the 16 Pro to a base 17 is a downgrade, then why do it?
For what it's worth, I don't think this has much ground as I'm sure if when I charge my phone throughout the day, I would probably get to the end of the day with 50% battery. Let the man breathe and perhaps consider that some people might just use their phone differently from you? I'm not trying to put you on blast here, but think before you press send. Sounds like you are having your own 'crash out' about the air in a completely different way.
They just spent the last 2 days telling everyone how difficult it is to fold the Air!
Poor supply chain analysis. This would only be an accurate comparison if Apple made the exact number of iPhones for each model. You have no idea what the production ratio of the different models. For example they could have produced twice as many Air’s than the other models.
Crash out: " a sudden, overwhelming emotional or mental breakdown, often due to stress, burnout, or overstimulation, leading to a complete loss of control, a dramatic outburst, or impulsive, sometimes risky, behavior"
great post. You see the same thing (albeit to a lesser extent) with the Mac Mini M4.
We know.
Production numbers according to Sina supplier checks:
▪️iPhone Air accounts for approximately 10% of total production
▪️iPhone 17 base model accounts for 25% of total production
▪️iPhone 17 Pro accounts for 25% of total production
▪️iPhone 17 Pro Max accounts for 40% of total production
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