Yeah the plus was meant to solve this but Apples Pricing ladder just pushed people up.To be honest, I do go for the PM - or whatever model will be the largest size whenever I am upgrading. But that is solely because I prefer bigger size phones, not because it's a status symbol for me. If some year, the largest iPhone model is not a Pro, I will be buying it. Because I don't need/necessarily want the Pro features. I just want a large sized phone. If I could get the iPhone SE in the size of the Pro Max or bigger, I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
But yeah, it got appropriated.
I’ve never understood the iPhone being used as a fashion statement, bragging rights or to show off in any way. Most all of my friends are software engineers or in related fields. We all love iPhones but we all appreciate it for what it can, do not so we can impress some random person. We remember when memory was measured in KB not GB. We remember when mobile phones were too big to fit in a jeans pocket. It’s the technology that still amazes me. Why anyone cares what someone else bought or likes just baffles me.And I totally agree with you.
But way back when, owning the latest iPhone model was used as a club against other forum members. "See how much better I am than you, I HAVE THE NEW IPHONE AND YOU DON'T!!!!"
Ultimately though, this mentality (IMO) is about money. "I'm better than you are because I have the money to buy the newest iPhone and you don't. Because if you did, you'd have one already."
So, asking them which capacity they bought would usually raise their hackles and turn the entire conversation hostile - because although they purported to be better than everyone else in having more money, they couldn't afford the higher capacity models. It exposed them for their hypocrisy and they didn't like it.
Not one of them I ever dealt with used your reasoning (which, again I agree with) to argue back. They just got hostile and defensive whenever I asked the question about the capacity they sprang for.
I mean - if it's about money and you showing off about how much you spent, wouldn't you have spent big for the highest capacity so you can further show off? If you were actually better than the other person?
I feel the same way, which is why confronting all those fanboys of the period was so frustrating. Arguing with someone who would never change their viewpoint and consistently moved the goalposts of the argument in order to 'be right' and 'win' was dumbfounding. Asking them why they didn't get 'X' so they could use that to club other people over the head even more was something they couldn't answer and a way to set them back.I’ve never understood the iPhone being used as a fashion statement, bragging rights or to show off in any way. Most all of my friends are software engineers or in related fields. We all love iPhones but we all appreciate it for what it can, do not so we can impress some random person. We remember when memory was measured in KB not GB. We remember when mobile phones were too big to fit in a jeans pocket. It’s the technology that still amazes me. Why anyone cares what someone else bought or likes just baffles me.
Yes. If Apple and Jobs specifically had pulled his head out from somewhere any realized that thin is NOT the end all be all of feature sets. I also noticed that you left out the ability to replace the battery. So I guess for people who loose half the charge once every year and a half they are just expected to drop a couple hundred for the ability to replace the battery.
Fanbois are really starting to bother me. You people keep thinking Apple can do no wrong and it aggravates the heck out of me and others. Its the sole reason for Jobs's enormous ego and that trickles down to the products he produces. In short his crap doesn't smell half as good as what every fanboi makes it out to be. And the sooner everyone realizes this and causes a few Apple products to bomb the sooner Jobs and co will realize it isn't all about marketing their product, which seems to be what Jobs is good at.
So instead they are going smaller that will have an even more niche market with a premium price. BRILLIANT!
All I have to say is that I hate the 'it's thinner, it must be newer/better/more expensive!' culture mac has created with the ipods. Why the hell would anyone pay a premium for a device that is for all intents and purposes the same size as a MB and nearly a MBP, but thinner? By that argument, it's ok if it's poster sized and 1mm thick. Makes. No. Sense. Go away. I'm done.
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Like a lot of the 'pro-airbook' posts, you seem to believe that simply being 'thin' is some kind of a special feature that we need.
Thats not correct.
The dimensions that matter are the screen size, because it affects the overall size, the size that matters when it goes into a bag.
Its reasonably obvious that the last compact laptop, the PB12" was very popular.
It happened to be:
2" narrower, 1/4" thicker, and 0.3" less deep.
It had a 1.5 ghz processor (only 100 hz slower than this one)
It had ALL the ports and drives and connectors you could want.
It retailed at $1499 USD.
It weighed 4.6 pounds, 1.6 pounds heavier than the Airbook.
It was last produced in October 2005.
If this new machine is so great, how has it managed to throw away all the advantages of the PB12" for a trade-off of:
A smaller drive
no optical
no ports
$300 more expensive
1.3" bigger screen. (wow)
1.6 pounds lighter
1/4" thinner.
Not very much faster processor.
A full 2" wider - thats where it gets to be too big.
And a frickin' glossy screen...
This is NOT progress - this is obsession with looks and 'thin'.
I would expect the 'new' compact laptop to be considerably better than the PB 12" - this is NOT the case.
Something has gone awry in the development and final production of this machine - who knows what? Somebody got tunnel vision with 'thin'....
Its not right, and most here see that.
Hopefully it will sell, but after all the recent successes, its a disappointment.
It could have been so much better.
BTW, idiots isnt the best word to throw around - I would hazard a guess that a lot of people here are fairly bright....![]()
Which is precisely my point. This is typical of my usage and applies to me (and potentially others who are also at convenient charge locations through the day). So my point stands. May not apply to you, but I never said it did!For what it's worth, I don't think this has much ground as I'm sure if when I charge my phone throughout the day, I would probably get to the end of the day with 50% battery.
Literally what I've been saying the whole time, my man. As I said before, I do not care what devices others use, and I certainly don't go around telling them they're idiots for using them. Which is literally what half this thread is: people telling those who would buy the Air that they are wrong and gullible for wanting that. Enough.Let the man breathe and perhaps consider that some people might just use their phone differently from you?
This is super cringey. You really think highly of the Air when it has a terrible single speaker, a single camera, and a glossy frame that is a fingerprint magnet. It is not this holy device you make it out to be.For years, the iPhone Pro model has carried a dual crown: not only the most powerful iPhone each year, but also the most desirable, most premium and the one you buy if you want the best of everything.
The iPhone Air has arrived this year to disrupt that hierarchy. Suddenly, the phone that looks and feels like the jewel of the line-up isn’t the Pro at all. It’s the Air.
The Pro is the powerful beast with the huge battery, built like a tank; while the Air is the beautiful object, impossibly thin with polished titanium edges. No longer do you get both the most power and best, most premium design in one device. You have to choose.
That shift is creating a kind of cognitive dissonance for people who define their choice of device as a reflection of their status. The psychology of it is fascinating.
IMO, many Pro buyers don’t actually use most of the Pro features. They’re not shooting in Apple Log or editing with big 4K/8K workflows on the go. They just want to know they have the "top" phone, the one no one else can one up.
But now the definition of "top" has splintered: raw performance and battery life vs. design desirability. The Air has stolen half of the crown - it wins on industrial design.
The defensive behaviour is all over this forum and the internet at large. Endless benchmarks, heat tests, nitpicking every compromise the Air has, all (I would argue) to soothe the ego. "See? I made the right choice. My Pro is better."
And in that scramble, they cling to the loudest 'pick me' tech reviewers: the ones obsessed with stress tests, performative throttling, and manufactured torture scenarios, because it feeds the narrative they need to believe.
This is becoming more about identity, and the unease of realising the "best iPhone" no longer comes in one neat package.
For the first time EVER, the most powerful iPhone is not the one with the most premium design.
It's really interesting to me, and makes this year's the most interesting iPhone launch in years.
Good point. And actually, what makes this kind of funny is that the wealthiest person isn’t necessarily the one who bought the most expensive thing (a phone, a car, etc.), but the one who spent their money wisely. In my opinion, spending money just to prove something to others (especially if that money was earned through hard work) is unfortunate, and I feel bad for the people who feel the need to do that.And I totally agree with you.
But way back when, owning the latest iPhone model was used as a club against other forum members. "See how much better I am than you, I HAVE THE NEW IPHONE AND YOU DON'T!!!!"
Ultimately though, this mentality (IMO) is about money. "I'm better than you are because I have the money to buy the newest iPhone and you don't. Because if you did, you'd have one already."
So, asking them which capacity they bought would usually raise their hackles and turn the entire conversation hostile - because although they purported to be better than everyone else in having more money, they couldn't afford the higher capacity models. It exposed them for their hypocrisy and they didn't like it.
Not one of them I ever dealt with used your reasoning (which, again I agree with) to argue back. They just got hostile and defensive whenever I asked the question about the capacity they sprang for.
I mean - if it's about money and you showing off about how much you spent, wouldn't you have spent big for the highest capacity so you can further show off? If you were actually better than the other person?
Actually...Prores recording to internal storage is not available on Prores-compatible iPhone generations with 128 gigs of storage: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/109041
You can still record to an external drive via USB 3 on those 128-gig models, but just a little silly example.
In general I think the iPhone Air sits in a weird place, much like all other -Air variants of apple products.
MacBook Air - Entry level Mac laptop
iPad Air - Mid-range iPad that's a little nicer than the base, but not as nice as the Pro
iPhone Air - The screen and RAM of a Pro, the processer of a 17, the same primary shooter as the 17 line, new body
The iPhone Air is kinda weird because it's a new iPhone without a number, has the same number of cameras as the iPhone 16e, and is a mishmash of features from the base and the pro that make it tough for tech nerds to choose; do they want power or new design?
Personally I would get the Air if I was getting a new iPhone, although I've only ever been a Pro user.
You could argue that, but if we're talking psychology I think most people will balk at getting half the cameras for several hundred dollars more than the base 17.
More people are clocking on to the strange pathology of the diehard iPhone Air haters.
You love to see it.
I don't know what pop-psychoanalysis is (search results only left me more confused), but I think there's a ton of interesting individual and sociological psychology surrounding buying smartphones. I think we can all agree the same has been true of cars which for a long time were the central piece of technology in people's lives--both functionally and as a status symbol. Now it seems to me that the smartphone has supplanted the car as people's central piece of tech. So you can bet a lot of emotions, ego, and subconscious processes get mixed up in their purchase. Not for me though, of course.I feel like we've gone around the horn and have reached maximum self-parody if the act of buying a smartphone now involves pop-psychoanalysis.
Correct. That post you're quoting there was a dismissive appeal to ridicule (reductio ad ridiculum). Oops, there I go again...I don't know what pop-psychoanalysis is (search results only left me more confused), but I think there's a ton of interesting individual and sociological psychology surrounding buying smartphones. I think we can all agree the same has been true of cars which for a long time were the central piece of technology in people's lives--both functionally and as a status symbol. Now it seems to me that the smartphone has supplanted the car as people's central piece of tech. So you can bet a lot of emotions, ego, and subconscious processes get mixed up in their purchase. Not for me though, of course.
After the initial novelty of holding the phone in one’s hands to feel how might and thin it is then the reality of iOS sets in along with other adjustments from prior phone experiences.The irony is we're seeing a few of these defensive threads created as a moat or something to protect against what they perceive as "attacks."
Any feature mentioned as missing on the Air is seen as an attack. It's countered by hyperboles.
- Single camera - "Who are you, an 8K photographer?"
- Mediocre battery - "Why do you need to doom scroll for 30 hours long?"
- Mono speaker - "Use AirPods. Nobody is expecting surround sound. You're a jerk for using speakers anyway."
Nah some of these people gravitating to handheld devices being the object of desire either cannot drive or cannot afford a car or have accepted that renting some flat and being able to afford some status symbol tech leads to life satisfaction and accomplishment. 😝I don't know what pop-psychoanalysis is (search results only left me more confused), but I think there's a ton of interesting individual and sociological psychology surrounding buying smartphones. I think we can all agree the same has been true of cars which for a long time were the central piece of technology in people's lives--both functionally and as a status symbol. Now it seems to me that the smartphone has supplanted the car as people's central piece of tech. So you can bet a lot of emotions, ego, and subconscious processes get mixed up in their purchase. Not for me though, of course.
Nah even Apple subtle admits that battery life blows even with its “all day” marketing that’s why it sells a MagSafe battery pack for it.There are always people that love to put down what other people buy/plan to buy in order to make themselves feel "superior", but this has been the case forever and is not unique to the iPhone Air, or to smartphones for that matter. There are an equal number of people that feel smug self-satisfaction in the fact that they still use a ridiculously obsolete ancient iphone, or that they are "savvy" enough to buy the regular iphone when other schmucks buy the Pro phone "but don't use the Pro features" or whatever. The abnormal psychology here is attaching your self worth, or your perception of others, to the junk in your pockets.
There are lots of very legitimate criticisms of the Air, but no one has yet held it in their hands and at the end of the day just buy what makes you happy. Don't worry about what other people do.
Much rather go with a fold tbh as it merges a phone and tablet experience. Thinner and Lighter is a niche.Yeah, it will be interesting to see. Right now the Airs have much more availability in the pre-order stage than the Pros, and it could be because it's so new and different that people want to wait for reviews or until they can hold them in their own hands and try them, and maybe they fall in love with it at that point.
So far Apple has had a lot of problems finding a solid fourth offering in their phone lineup. They went from Mini to Plus to Air and it will be interesting to see if positioning the Air as the most premium in design will give them a hit where the standard but different form factor phones didn't.
More like are unable to make a logical comparison who tout having the need for social acceptance. OP probably turned to AI to draft some of this dribble.The younger generations' term for a temper tantrum