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More like are unable to make a logical comparison who tout having the need for social acceptance. OP probably turned to AI to draft some of this dribble.
Cute! 🫶🏼

No AI was used for my "dribble" of an opening post, but I'm loving your use of both genetic and ad hominem fallacies which demonstrate you're unable to argue with the core substance of my original argument.

I assure you, you're going to get through this turbulent time internally when the dust settles on the shock of the Air existing as a third consumer choice.
 
Cute! 🫶🏼

No AI was used for my "dribble" of an opening post, but I'm loving your use of both genetic and ad hominem fallacies which demonstrate you're unable to argue with the core substance of my original argument.

I assure you, you're going to get through this turbulent time internally when the dust settles on the shock of the Air existing as a third consumer choice.
Doesn’t bother me either way if the Air exist or not, more interested in a fold tbh.
 
Why do you care? If you like it, buy it and love it. If you don’t, don’t. You can’t ever really control others thoughts or posts on it. I have a 16 Pro Max but I’d seriously contemplate just a 17 regular now with the smooth screen. Air is absolutely beautiful, it definitely deserves to exist. Most of the haters weren’t about for the MacBook Air in 2008, can you imagine how they’d react to that?! lol
 
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Why do you care? If you like it, buy it and love it. If you don’t, don’t. You can’t ever really control others thoughts or posts on it. I have a 16 Pro Max but I’d seriously contemplate just a 17 regular now with the smooth screen. Air is absolutely beautiful, it definitely deserves to exist. Most of the haters weren’t about for the MacBook Air in 2008, can you imagine how they’d react to that?! lol
In case it wasn't obvious - I don't care. I'm critiquing the vocal people who do seem to really, really care and attempting to understand why.
 
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The irony is we're seeing a few of these defensive threads created as a moat or something to protect against what they perceive as "attacks."

Any feature mentioned as missing on the Air is seen as an attack. It's countered by hyperboles.

  • Single camera - "Who are you, an 8K photographer?"
  • Mediocre battery - "Why do you need to doom scroll for 30 hours long?"
  • Mono speaker - "Use AirPods. Nobody is expecting surround sound. You're a jerk for using speakers anyway."
I don't know what perceived "attacks" you're referring to specifically, but any time someone points out only negative trade offs of something and refuses to acknowledge the positive except to mock it, which I've seen plenty of for products in general and regarding the iPhone Air specifically, then that is biased criticism. So one shouldn't be surprised if it's countered with opposing bias. If you're searching for an overall equilibrium, there will be none in bias land--only a constant shouting match.
 
Jus
For years, the iPhone Pro model has carried a dual crown: not only the most powerful iPhone each year, but also the most desirable, most premium and the one you buy if you want the best of everything.

The iPhone Air has arrived this year to disrupt that hierarchy. Suddenly, the phone that looks and feels like the jewel of the line-up isn’t the Pro at all. It’s the Air.

The Pro is the powerful beast with the huge battery, built like a tank; while the Air is the beautiful object, impossibly thin with polished titanium edges. No longer do you get both the most power and best, most premium design in one device. You have to choose.

That shift is creating a kind of cognitive dissonance for people who define their choice of device as a reflection of their status. The psychology of it is fascinating.

IMO, many Pro buyers don’t actually use most of the Pro features. They’re not shooting in Apple Log or editing with big 4K/8K workflows on the go. They just want to know they have the "top" phone, the one no one else can one up.

But now the definition of "top" has splintered: raw performance and battery life vs. design desirability. The Air has stolen half of the crown - it wins on industrial design.

The defensive behaviour is all over this forum and the internet at large. Endless benchmarks, heat tests, nitpicking every compromise the Air has, all (I would argue) to soothe the ego. "See? I made the right choice. My Pro is better."

And in that scramble, they cling to the loudest 'pick me' tech reviewers: the ones obsessed with stress tests, performative throttling, and manufactured torture scenarios, because it feeds the narrative they need to believe.

This is becoming more about identity, and the unease of realising the "best iPhone" no longer comes in one neat package.

For the first time EVER, the most powerful iPhone is not the one with the most premium design.

It's really interesting to me, and makes this year's the most interesting iPhone launch in years.
Just wait until the Fold 😂
 
Having watched quite a few of the early reviews of the Air, it seems to be a phone people like, despite exposing quite a few shortfalls, like battery and camera limitations. I still can't get my head around why it costs £200 more than the 17 though and think the 17 is a great deal this year, hence the praise many reviewers are giving it. It seems the only advantage the Air has is its thickness, weight and slightly bigger screen, and after years of people complaining iPhones are too thin and lack better battery life, the reaction to the Air is surprising to me. Lets see what new owners think over the next week as devices start to land in hands.
 
The irony is we're seeing a few of these defensive threads created as a moat or something to protect against what they perceive as "attacks."

Any feature mentioned as missing on the Air is seen as an attack. It's countered by hyperboles.

  • Single camera - "Who are you, an 8K photographer?"
  • Mediocre battery - "Why do you need to doom scroll for 30 hours long?"
  • Mono speaker - "Use AirPods. Nobody is expecting surround sound. You're a jerk for using speakers anyway."
Good camera is nice to have, obviously everyone wants quality pictures, mobile camera just can’t be too good.

Battery maybe you have a point but if you use phone 30 h a day and current phone battery holds enough for you then smaller battery will always annoy you.

You are right about speakers though, all phones shall have just mono. I don’t want people to walk around and listening to music played outloud from the phone.
 
Regardless of all the excuses and grips people are trying to attach to the air, it is the perfect phone. Everyone charges their phones at night and the phone gets there. It's lighter, better materials, and looks fantastic with real apple colors and not some rim bolt anodized colors. For me I could care less about 3 cameras and lidar. I point my camera and shoot. Last time I used lidar was in 2023 when it gave me bad kitchen measurements and cost me $3000
 
Regardless of all the excuses and grips people are trying to attach to the air, it is the perfect phone. Everyone charges their phones at night and the phone gets there. It's lighter, better materials, and looks fantastic with real apple colors and not some rim bolt anodized colors. For me I could care less about 3 cameras and lidar. I point my camera and shoot. Last time I used lidar was in 2023 when it gave me bad kitchen measurements and cost me $3000
Explain how an iPhone with a single camera and an earpiece speaker is the perfect phone.
 
Explain how an iPhone with a single camera and an earpiece speaker is the perfect phone.
Perhaps it’s still not getting through but some people just want a camera that takes photos with an audible loudspeaker for phone calls and trivial doomscroll video, and would much prefer a vastly thinner, lighter phone with a polished titanium frame.
 
Explain how an iPhone with a single camera and an earpiece speaker is the perfect phone.

It's a perfect phone if all you want and need is a single camera and an earpiece speaker.

if you want stereo speakers, it's not the perfect phone for you.

If you want multiple cameras, it's not the perfect phone for you.

There is no perfect phone for everyone. That's why companies offer choice and variety.

Trying to shoehorn the debate into "Four legs good, two legs bad." just doesn't work.

Just get a phone that suits you and stop worrying about other people's preferences. That's their business, not yours. And your business is not theirs.
 
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It's a perfect phone if all you want and need is a single camera and an earpiece speaker.

if you want stereo speakers, it's not the perfect phone for you.

If you want multiple cameras, it's not the perfect phone for you.

There is no perfect phone for everyone. That's why companies offer choice and variety.
Don’t confuse them with the facts when their mind is already made up!
 
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Perhaps it’s still not getting through but some people just want a camera that takes photos and an audible loudspeaker for phone calls and trivial doomscroll video, and would much prefer a vastly thinner, lighter phone with a polished titanium frame.
That makes it the perfect phone? Because that was the comment I was referencing.
 
That makes it the perfect phone? Because that was the comment I was referencing.
If you want a thin, light, elegant phone made from premium materials, don’t need more than one decent camera and a single, audible loudspeaker, and it has a battery as good as last year’s Pro and a great screen - then yes you could argue it’s the perfect phone for them out of this year’s offerings.
 
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It's a perfect phone if all you want and need is a single camera and an earpiece speaker.

if you want stereo speakers, it's not the perfect phone for you.

If you want multiple cameras, it's not the perfect phone for you.

There is no perfect phone for everyone. That's why companies offer choice and variety.

Trying to shoehorn the debate into "Four legs good, two legs bad." just doesn't work.

Just get a phone that suits you and stop worrying about other people's preferences. That's their business, not yours. And your business is not theirs.
Agreed. But our fellow member declared it the ‘perfect phone’.
 
If you want a thin, light, elegant phone made from premium materials, don’t need more than one decent camera and a single, audible loudspeaker, and it has a battery as good as last year’s Pro and a great screen - then yes you could argue it’s the perfect phone for them out of this year’s offerings.
Again, fine. But the member declared it the ‘perfect phone’. In reality the Air is for someone who can live with its obvious shortcomings.
 
Agreed. But our fellow member declared it the ‘perfect phone’.
Maybe they needed to word it more clearly to avoid semantic hair splitting.

“The perfect iPhone in today’s available range for my needs and preferences” - would that have satisfied you?
 
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Agreed. But our fellow member declared it the ‘perfect phone’.
They can say that it's the perfect phone for them. That's the most any of us can say about any iPhone.

If there really was only one "perfect" iPhone model for EVERYONE, Apple would sell only one model of iphone.
 
With all due respect, this whole discussion is very much a "problems people invent for themselves when they either don't have many real problems or they want to be distracted from any real problems" discussion.

What iPhone does a person need? For over 90% of what they are dong, any current iPhone will fit their needs. Which phone you you want? That's an individual decision, and there's no right or wrong answer.

I really don't accept that the choice iPhone really is meaningful in terms of people's self-identity or social status. And I don't think people care what phone someone else has.
 
The word crash out seems to be a way for a person to show how they are a sheep following trendy word usage instead of just using normal language everyone understands
Let's play "count the logical fallacies", one of my favourite games.

I'm seeing ad hominem, poisoning the well and appeal to tradition at first reading, which is impressive in such a short sentence.

You could also argue it's a straw man too - recasting word choice as a mindless act of conformity.

God forbid we discuss the topic of the original post and its argument! 😆
 
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