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yes because I routinely upload fake pics about comparisons of bluray to dvd to websites even though the process would be ****ing pointless but hey im just a mindless troll what else do i have better to do
You may not be a troll, but there must be some reason why you would come to a Mac forum to pretend that there is some controversy over the superiority of Blu-ray over DVD. Your OP may have had some currency back when HD-DVD was trying to hold back the Blu-ray tide. However, HD-DVD is now on the dong heap of history.

Regular DVD is not even in the same league. No one on this forum with the sense God gave red brick believes that it is. Say you are not a troll? What are you then?
 
You may not be a troll, but there must be some reason why you would come to a Mac forum to pretend that there is some controversy over the superiority of Blu-ray over DVD. Your OP may have had some currency back when HD-DVD was trying to hold back the Blu-ray tide. However, HD-DVD is now on the dong heap of history.

Regular DVD is not even in the same league. No one on this forum with the sense God gave red brick believes that it is. Say you are not a troll? What are you then?

What the **** is wrong with everyone on this forum
I'm just trying to point out the fact that the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is actually staggering. I love how the guy on the other forums is a god for pointing it out, however when I post it here, I'm a troll. What the hell, seriously.
 
yes because I routinely upload fake pics about comparisons of bluray to dvd to websites even though the process would be ****ing pointless but hey im just a mindless troll what else do i have better to do
I shouldn't have said fake, you're right. I should have said - your pictures are completely different from anything real world and are really not comparisons at all.

Where did you get your sources from? You still haven't answered me that.


What the **** is wrong with everyone on this forum
I'm just trying to point out the fact that the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is actually staggering. I love how the guy on the other forums is a god for pointing it out, however when I post it here, I'm a troll. What the hell, seriously.
if you would have come here 10 years ago with actual differences and some technical information describing why they are different, the story would be different, but you didn't and its not. We already know the differences and were not stupid.

Thanks for putting in the effort but maybe a little bit more is required next time.

When I get home today ill show you some actual differences if you like?
 
Just to make another, completely different point, it would make sense to use a movie with far higher production values than Saw VI to make this comparison.

It's not exactly even in the running for "Best Visual Effects" in any of the awards offered annually.

But anyway, when one makes a comparison, a requirement is to use the same frame.
 
But anyway, when one makes a comparison, a requirement is to use the same frame.

....I did? :confused:

if you would have come here 10 years ago with actual differences and some technical information describing why they are different, the story would be different, but you didn't and its not. We already know the differences and were not stupid.

I think the bigger thing would be a 3 year old would be telling you about the wonders of some shiny disc and how everything looks perfect when you use it :eek:
 
This thread really only makes sense in 2006/2007. Now, it's like... duh, of course Blu-ray has better PQ.

Honestly, I don't think Blu-ray will ever overtake DVD but be a higher-end niche product like SACD or Laserdisc.

Besides, Blu-ray is worth it for the scratchproof discs.
 
....I did? :confused:

You may have done, but there are slight differences, or it's cropped (this could be down to mastering differences, and the color shouldn't be that different either). Could be how you captured the image, or something. I'm not sure, but either way, it's not quite the same.
 
First off, let me say "well, duh"

Blu-Ray isn't a Sony only thing. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both had the same origins as the next-generation DVD but the two camps split over interactivity, copy protection, and physical disk capacity. Blu-Ray won (and it had nothing to do with Porn, it had to do with swaying more Hollywood movie studios -- Porn is all online nowadays). And there is a Blu-Ray organization that is larger than Sony which handles the format and licensing.

DVD is only 720x480. Blu-Ray is 1920x1080.

DVD only supports MPEG-2 at a bitrate limited to < 10 mbps. Blu-Ray supports MPEG2, VC-1, and H.264 at much higher bitrates, as well as lossless audio. There's no question Blu-Ray is tons better. Did anybody ever think otherwise?
 
This thread really only makes sense in 2006/2007. Now, it's like... duh, of course Blu-ray has better PQ.

Honestly, I don't think Blu-ray will ever overtake DVD but be a higher-end niche product like SACD or Laserdisc.

Besides, Blu-ray is worth it for the scratchproof discs.
I think DVD will slowly be phased out just like SD TVs where. BR, over it's lifetime, probably won't outsell DVD, but DVD hit at the market place w/the right product at the right time. I wouldn't be surprised if BR has had more mainstream success in its short lifetime than SACD, DVD-A and Laserdisc combined so I wouldn't clump it in w/those formats.


Lethal
 
You may have done, but there are slight differences, or it's cropped (this could be down to mastering differences, and the color shouldn't be that different either). Could be how you captured the image, or something. I'm not sure, but either way, it's not quite the same.

The scenes are the exact same frame, and the exact same method of capturing. Only difference is the Blu-Ray copy has had some extra in studio editing or something :confused:
 
I think DVD will slowly be phased out just like SD TVs where. BR, over it's lifetime, probably won't outsell DVD, but DVD hit at the market place w/the right product at the right time. I wouldn't be surprised if BR has had more mainstream success in its short lifetime than SACD, DVD-A and Laserdisc combined so I wouldn't clump it in w/those formats.


Lethal

you really think BDs wont outsell DVDs? hmm i donno.. how long have DVDs been around for?

cant wait for super hi res. BD atm frustrates me its still sort of ugly.
 
cant wait for super hi res.

I'm betting you will be waiting for a long time. Super hi-res will require new television sets with a new standard and the broadcasters won't exactly be excited to make a new transition. On top of that, your screen size needs to be ENORMOUS to even notice the difference between Blu-Ray and Super Hi-res.

P-Worm
 
This made me smile. :)
haha its the internet. i think my spelling/grammar is allowed to be a bit off

I'm betting you will be waiting for a long time. Super hi-res will require new television sets with a new standard and the broadcasters won't exactly be excited to make a new transition. On top of that, your screen size needs to be ENORMOUS to even notice the difference between Blu-Ray and Super Hi-res.

P-Worm
2013 is the expected date. im waiting until then :D serisouly cant wait!
 
There will always be a newer and better format. That's technology.

The real question becomes is when does the consumer believe that it's worth paying for the increased or improved version.

VHS to DVD was a no brainer. DVD to Blu-Ray we shall see.
 
you really think BDs wont outsell DVDs? hmm i donno.. how long have DVDs been around for?
IIRC DVD first hit the US market in spring of '97 and they aren't going to go away anytime soon. I don't think Blu-ray will out sell DVD because Blu-ray isn't going to have the same lifespan or market dominance due to competition, both direct and indirect. People's attention is split between more forms of entertainment now than ever before and people are starting to watch movies and TV in non-traditional ways (mobile devices, computers, streaming directly to TVs, etc.,). The era of a single medium having total market dominance is over. Physical media, streaming media and downloadable media will all have a place in the consumers' life in the future.


Lethal
 
IIRC DVD first hit the US market in spring of '97 and they aren't going to go away anytime soon. I don't think Blu-ray will out sell DVD because Blu-ray isn't going to have the same lifespan or market dominance due to competition, both direct and indirect.
fair call. DVD has been out some good 13 years, BD will have maybe 2006->2020 (DVD will most likely be out the whole time too).

People's attention is split between more forms of entertainment now than ever before and people are starting to watch movies and TV in non-traditional ways (mobile devices, computers, streaming directly to TVs, etc.,). The era of a single medium having total market dominance is over. Physical media, streaming media and downloadable media will all have a place in the consumers' life in the future.


Lethal
you're right, the digital age is coming, very slowly! but it is. here in australia our infrastructure simply cannot handle it at all!

im slightly confused though, i think that BD does have the potential to become the dominant optical format for movies. as i have said earlier, the price of new release BD movies matches that of DVDs. the price of older releases is around $5 more expensive. and BD players here in australia have just hit below the $200 mark for the most basic of players! its amazing! so give it a few years and maybe people will start opting for BD - time will tell.
 
im slightly confused though, i think that BD does have the potential to become the dominant optical format for movies. as i have said earlier, the price of new release BD movies matches that of DVDs. the price of older releases is around $5 more expensive. and BD players here in australia have just hit below the $200 mark for the most basic of players! its amazing! so give it a few years and maybe people will start opting for BD - time will tell.
Dominant optical format for HD movies? Yes, Will it dominate the market place the same way records, CDs, VHS, DVD, etc. did? Not IMO. Blu-ray has competition that those formats never did in their heydays. DVRs, Hulu, iTunes Store, smart phones, iPods, streaming set-top boxes like the Roku or Xbox 360 are all potentially competing with Blu-ray for movie/TV watching where as DVD never had to face competition like that when it launched.

I also don't think Blu-ray is going to last as long because of how fast technology is changing. I wouldn't be surprised to see movies start coming out on DRM'd, read-only thumb drives eventually. Mechanical, spinning drives and discs are on their way out. It will still be a while for the price/performance of solid state media to reach the sweet spot for main stream adaption but the writing is on the wall.


Lethal
 
Dominant optical format for HD movies? Yes, Will it dominate the market place the same way records, CDs, VHS, DVD, etc. did? Not IMO. Blu-ray has competition that those formats never did in their heydays. DVRs, Hulu, iTunes Store, smart phones, iPods, streaming set-top boxes like the Roku or Xbox 360 are all potentially competing with Blu-ray for movie/TV watching where as DVD never had to face competition like that when it launched.
i refer to "digital content" as all that sort of stuff, and TBH the digital age is not yet upon us. it is at least 5 years away globally from being major, as i said before australia cannot afford/handle the requirements.

I also don't think Blu-ray is going to last as long because of how fast technology is changing. I wouldn't be surprised to see movies start coming out on DRM'd, read-only thumb drives eventually. Mechanical, spinning drives and discs are on their way out. It will still be a while for the price/performance of solid state media to reach the sweet spot for main stream adaption but the writing is on the wall.

Lethal

i guessed that content would turn to flash drives/SSD drives about a year ago ;) beat you too it hehe.

spinning discs are still holding their own, holographic discs are still yet to come out, as are high density BD (scheduled 2013 with super hi-res). but yes eventually (around 2020), optical will slowly die on the media front. it will still be around for backups though!

totally agree with you on everything you said, but BD/optical wont go down without a fight hehe.
 
As with everything else, Cartman has the last word on the subject of TV technology.

  • Cartman: Come on! Come on! Dude, what is taking so long! I wanna play!
  • Maintenance Guy: Uhh, what kind of output does this have? This is some ancient Super-VHS output or somethin'. I can't connect it to your float screen.
  • Cartman: There's gotta be some way to hook it up! It's the freakin' future!
  • Maintenance Guy: It may be the future for you, but I can't hook up anything to a float screen without at least a laser-7 output.
  • Cartman: You've gotta be s******' me! Science-dammit! I am so f****** sick of the future!
 
i refer to "digital content" as all that sort of stuff, and TBH the digital age is not yet upon us. it is at least 5 years away globally from being major, as i said before australia cannot afford/handle the requirements.
It's a bit inaccurate to label just streaming and downloadable media as "digital content" when CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray, etc., are all digital as well. We are well into the digital age. We shoot home movies on digital cameras, we put the finished product on a digital medium, typically a disc, and a growing number of us watch them on digital TVs. In the relatively near future almost everyone will watch them on digital TVs because analog TVs are no longer being made.


spinning discs are still holding their own, holographic discs are still yet to come out, as are high density BD (scheduled 2013 with super hi-res). but yes eventually (around 2020), optical will slowly die on the media front. it will still be around for backups though!
I had forgotten about holographic storage. That will be some sweet stuff once it hits the mainstream market. I'm not trying to say that Blu-ray is going to disappear tomorrow just that DVD was the right product and the right time and, IIRC, is one of the most successful, if not the most successful, consumer technologies ever. I mean, DVD turned the home video market, which was pretty much this murky hole that Hollywood didn't care about, into a giant cash cow that basically turned theatrical distribution into a loss leading event to setup DVD sales and rentals.

That's a tough act to follow even if there weren't all these competing technologies, including DVD, for BD to compete w/in the home entertainment market. In some way shape or form I think there will always be physical distribution of media because not every place will be connected tot he net and many people like getting something physical for their money.


Lethal
 
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