Man ... if they'd made a slightly smaller option I'd be all over it.
This is just such a large screen/device still.
This is just such a large screen/device still.
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The Regular iPhone 17 is Reportedly Proving Popular — Here's Why
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It doesn’t have an ugly carbuncle stuck to its back!
I’m tempted to upgrade to the 17, but also tempted to hold off until the 18. Apple Intelligence is still MIA and they may pull the “some new features only supported on iPhones 18 and above” in next year’s Apple Intelligence reveal.
I’m tempted to upgrade to the 17, but also tempted to hold off until the 18. Apple Intelligence is still MIA and they may pull the “some new features only supported on iPhones 18 and above” in next year’s Apple Intelligence reveal.
ProMotion is noticeably smoother and lots of people prefer it. I personally don't care much though. I own both ProMotion and 60 Hz iDevices, and I easily notice the difference in smoothness, but I'm perfectly happy with 60 Hz.
It’s more like signing a 3-year contract since it’s free in the form of 36 monthly bill credits. No biggie however if you don’t upgrade frequently.
Pretty much everything he said also applies to the 12" MacBook, but we all know how well that went.
A lot of people keep quoting this as if its gospel, and its from Apples site so fair enough (video watching hours), but in real world battery usage I am almost certain the iPhone Air will be noticeably inferior to the 16 Pro.
I think it's kind of telling that they released a new external battery that works ONLY with the new Air, and they introduced a new battery life spec that requires this battery.
17 is easily the best value now. The Pro gives you telephoto, better battery life (although the 17 is still very good), “pro” chip (good luck telling the difference), proraw photo option, and thunderbolt/usb 3. I think of that list, a lot of users are not going to notice anything but the telephoto lens. Pretty bad value for an extra $300.
I think once people see/feel the iPhone Air in person, sales will pick up.
Personally, I would gladly sacrifice some of the features lost for hand comfort.
I will say that I initially thought the orange Pro model looked goofy, but after seeing some closer footage of it in Mr Mobiles video, I think it looks really cool.
Personally, I would gladly sacrifice some of the features lost for hand comfort.
I will say that I initially thought the orange Pro model looked goofy, but after seeing some closer footage of it in Mr Mobiles video, I think it looks really cool.
It's thicker/heavier/more expensive are compromises though. Maybe ones you're willing to make, but you can't say the pro's and pro maxes don't have compromises. Every engineering decision is a compromise.
It get the most important innovations when there are; such as promotion.
Plus some new features of the latest Pro model.
The only few pro-exclusive features are scarce and Apple struggles to find new ones.
Sure they have data but knowledges of the past cannot always predict the future
I bought the Pro Max specifically for the telephoto... plus ultra-wide. The 17 at least has the ultra-wide. The Air has neither, just like the budget 16e. IOW, the Air is like a gussied up 16e.
I will say the lightness of the 16e is great though, and the Air weighs the same as the 16e. However, the iPhone 17 is not heavy at all at just 10 grams more than the 16e. The noticeably heavy ones are the iPhone 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max.
I'm OK with the weight of the 17 Pro Max though, since it's roughly the same weight as my current 12 Pro Max.
After having a pro upgrade for years since the whole “pro” thing began I’m thinking the iPhone 17 will suit me better I’m not a movie producer I just need a phone for the day to day life and I don’t think the pro is aimed at us “average users anymore” when there used to feel a big difference between the two models the gap is feeling less and less making it not worth it when I could upgrade twice almost for the price of the pro.
The iPhone Fold is likely to be the same height as the iPhone Air. The ZFold7 is 6.24 inches tall.
Yes, although that’s true I still believe that most will opt for the regular 17 or one of the Pros
It has some features more than the air, but the air does have 12 gb of ram opposed to the iPhone 17’s 8gb. The air does have the A19 Pro versus the regular A19. Also, the air has ceramic shield on both the front and back. Only on the front on the 17. But the other main reason people are picking up the air is because of the hardware features. The thinness and the titanium polished frame. It has the aesthetics over the 17. This is a product that Apple has never done before. An alternative for people who don’t want a bulky phone this year. I think it will be a hit but time will tell.
If it wasn't for carrier deals, apple upgrade program and trade ins, most folks wouldn't be able to afford the regular 17!
I actually kind of want the regular 17 just due to the lighter weight. The 17 pro is now at like 7.3oz, approaching half of a fricking pound for a phone.
My AT&T plan lets me get both the pro and regular 17 for free though, so seems silly to not take advantage and get the pro. Really only care about the camera system.
These 17's in general seem great, but the 18s next year will probably also be a pretty large leap forward due to:
- 2nm lithography for even more efficiency (we've been on 3nm for quite a while now)
- introduction of C2/N2 chips for even more efficiency
- A20 will likely have some serious AI optimization areas of the SoC
My AT&T plan lets me get both the pro and regular 17 for free though, so seems silly to not take advantage and get the pro. Really only care about the camera system.
These 17's in general seem great, but the 18s next year will probably also be a pretty large leap forward due to:
- 2nm lithography for even more efficiency (we've been on 3nm for quite a while now)
- introduction of C2/N2 chips for even more efficiency
- A20 will likely have some serious AI optimization areas of the SoC
It’s divisive, but you have to admit that it is different on the back from the previous 4 iterations. And not just a little different, except for the three camera array you have a plateau instead of just a box design for the cameras. And then the two tone effect on the lower half. I like it.
I still get the appeal, the compromises just don't work for me
