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The iPhone 4 "issue" was real. I know because I did have the iPhone 4, and simply touching the "spot" reduced the signal. And of course, as shown by Apple, this issue existed on other phones as well. Now, in many places around the world, this was not such a big deal since presumably the wireless carriers have enough signal strength to begin with. The issue became apparent on AT&T in the US, where in certain part of the countries, it didn't have strong enough coverage/signal. Times the number of iPhone users in the US, and of course you have people noticing and complaining.

CDMA iPhone 4 was released later, and the antenna design was fixed, similar to the 4S design.

I know fully that the issue was there (and shouldn't have been) but because the iPhone 4 was kinda delicate with its glass surfaces and by modern standards a very small phone, adding a cheap bumper or case did no harm and offered better protection.
 
Yeah but 8 will be better than 7s

I don' t agree entirely .It will be better in specs and features.
But in build quality and finish, it could be worse. iPhone 7 will be an entirely new design which isn't tested in real life and perfected yet.
The 6s has dealt with the 6 design " flaws" which came to light after a long period of use. Even later revisions of the 6 dealt with issues of opening day iPhone 6 version(front facing camera issue on the space grey iPhone 6).
 
yes of course the S version is much better if you can avoid the temptation to play with the new iphone with the new design. i can't avoid the temptation so i always get tick and tock device. tick for iphone 4,5,6 and tock for the s version of iphones if you dont get me.
 
I have been on the tic cycle since the iPhone 3G

I got the

iPhone 3G
iPhone 4
iPhone 5
iPhone 6

And now I'm getting the 6s plus and I'm switching to the s years

I've had the same series of iPhones. The 4 had the big change to retina, and adequate RAM for the time compared to the 3G. The 5 gave us LTE in an iPhone. The 6 has a bigger screen, but otherwise not a big leap forward. (though the plus was in screen size for those who went that route).
 
I'm on the number (or tick) cycle and happy with that.
I started with iPhone 4, antennagate was an issue but I got the free case and never had a call dropped.
iPhone 5 was really beautiful, I went for the white one and used it most of the time without a case.
Then I bought iPhone 6 and I really wanted a bigger screen last year so I wasn't willing to wait for another year to get the new iPhone. I'd have replaced the 5s if I had one.
Of course 4s was better than 4 and 6s is better than my 6, but I had no real issues on my iphones in the past so why should I wait for the s model?
 
I'm not sure about the past, but I will say the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus are THE ABSOLUTE BEST iPhones Apple has ever made. I think everyone who loves Apple and enjoys best-of-breed technology should aspire to upgrade to these latest models.
 
Just a thought:

Is a feature actually a feature when it is exclusive to only a single device
?

In an ecosystem where we own and use multiple Apple products at once then many times that "new" feature feels incomplete because it isn't fully realized or implemented across the line yet.

For example, TouchID. Obviously TouchID worked fine on your iPhone 5S despite it not being on an Air but going back and forth between the two was jarring. And it wasn't until there was feature parity between the two devices that it "felt" right and features were more fleshed out.

So while the S products do introduce the future of a new feature, if that feature is only on one product and isn't used in full effect Then it can be considered more like a hardware beta before "the REAL version" comes out next year.
 
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I know fully that the issue was there (and shouldn't have been) but because the iPhone 4 was kinda delicate with its glass surfaces and by modern standards a very small phone, adding a cheap bumper or case did no harm and offered better protection.
Eh, I used my 4 and 4S caseless and they never broke on me even. 6+ is actually the first one I've used a case with since it's just too damn slippery
 
I think the biggest improvements come with the S versions, with the 6S being the biggest improvement to an iPhone since the 4.

The change of design is really sweet with the numbered versions, along with the screen size updates/resolution updates but under the screen the S version really improves things the most in my opinion!
 
I don't understand the "best iPhone ever made" comment. Every new iPhone is the best iPhone ever made. Duh!

Having said that, with Apple's new program, I'll be upgrading yearly now.
 
I used to follow the "only buy S" version phones, too. But that all changed once Apple phones started getting less and less innovative. I don't know whether Apple is intentionally rolling out new features slowly as a way to put consumers in a position to buy, buy, buy over and over and over again or whether they're just plateauing in terms of technological innovations, but I'm sorry -- small spec bumps new insignificant apps, and some features here and there isn't really enough for me to follow that formula anymore.

I will say, though, I think the implementation of 3D touch is probably the most innovative thing Apple has included in their phones since Siri on the 4S or maybe the transition from iOS 6 to iOS 7


I don't know. That's just the consumer-aware side of me speaking. I'm not really one who would allow myself to fall into the trap of buying a new phone every year. Even if I could easily afford to do so. I don't want to get stuck in a technological hamster wheel constantly worrying and obsessing about being "on top" technologically. It's saved me a lot of headaches. After all, at the end of the day, what do I do on my phone? Place calls, make texts, internet browse, video and music, photos/pictures, and some apps here and there. I've been able to do all of this quite comfortably on my 4S. Although, at this point, I'm just getting bored of the phone in general and would like to update soon.

I'm most likely going to wait for the 7 to roll out. See if I'm satisfied with the design (I'm strongly unsatisfied with the 6 design). The fact that it won't be the 7S version doesn't bother me.
 
I don't know whether Apple is intentionally rolling out new features slowly as a way to put consumers in a position to buy, buy, buy over and over and over again or whether they're just plateauing in terms of technological innovations,
If you actually understand technology and look beyond the user facing "features," Apple did significant improvements on every iteration of the Ax SoC. The Tick-tock (number and S) cycle is designed to match the 2-year typical phone contracts.

Every iPhone is already planned two to three years before. Right now, even the A10 for the iPhone 7 is already in production based on the rumours. As a for profit company, you do want your customers to keep buying new products from you. That's simple logic. At least Apple care to update previous iPhone users with OS updates, unlike many Android OEMs that literally force you to buy a new phone to get the latest Android version.

Since Apple is going into the financing market straight to its customers, it will be interesting to see if it will affect the classic tick-tock cycle. We already see some affect, like the increase in price for AppleCare+. To me, that is a nudge for customers to simply opt in to the upgrade program as it includes AppleCare+. Kinda sucks that it is US only for now (while the AppleCare+ price increase is global).
 
I will say, though, I think the implementation of 3D touch is probably the most innovative thing Apple has included in their phones since Siri on the 4S or maybe the transition from iOS 6 to iOS 7

I agree. While some people might not think it's much now, I think it's going to enable developers to allow us to interact with apps in new ways that we hadn't necessarily thought of yet. People will then look back and realize it was a bigger deal than we all thought. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.
 
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I've decided to jump to "s" versions because of the premium case availability. By the time the S models arrive the premium cases are refined and available.
 
I've decided to jump to "s" versions because of the premium case availability. By the time the S models arrive the premium cases are refined and available.
Good thing I hate and never use cases.

That'd be a drag waiting for a new phone because of a case. ;)
 
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