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'The Savant' Star Jessica Chastain Says Apple TV+ Delay Is Wrong Call Amid Violence
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Here's the underlying state of affairs:
If you're on the right, outside of podcasts you watched people you follow get deplatformed, demonitized, banned, shadow banned, etc for the previous 4 years-- often for saying things that later turned out to be 100% correct (Hunter laptop, covid lab leak, etc). If you're in that camp and have even a hint of common sense, you know content from the right was HEAVILY censored from 2020 to 2024. That's why they've been clamoring about free speech for years.
This month, the left got a tiny hint of what that feels like. They're up in arms.
So, let's just take this as a moment of unity, and get some laws on the books that ensure none of it ever happens again.
If you're on the right, outside of podcasts you watched people you follow get deplatformed, demonitized, banned, shadow banned, etc for the previous 4 years-- often for saying things that later turned out to be 100% correct (Hunter laptop, covid lab leak, etc). If you're in that camp and have even a hint of common sense, you know content from the right was HEAVILY censored from 2020 to 2024. That's why they've been clamoring about free speech for years.
This month, the left got a tiny hint of what that feels like. They're up in arms.
So, let's just take this as a moment of unity, and get some laws on the books that ensure none of it ever happens again.
“We’re reviewing [Section 230], and certainly they should be held accountable... It is a big and complicated ecosystem, and everybody bears responsibility to ensure that we are not providing people with bad information about a vaccine that will save their lives.”
White House reviewing Section 230 amid efforts to push social media giants to crack down on misinformation | CNN Politics
The White House is reviewing whether social media platforms should be held legally accountable for publishing misinformation via Section 230, a law that protects companies’ ability to moderate content, White House communications director Kate Bedingfield said Tuesday.
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“The President’s view is that the major platforms have a responsibility related to the health and safety of all Americans to stop amplifying untrustworthy content, disinformation, and misinformation, especially related to COVID-19 vaccinations and elections... He also supports better privacy protections and a robust anti-trust program. So, his view is that there’s more that needs to be done to ensure that this type of misinformation; disinformation; damaging, sometime life-threatening information, is not going out to the American public.”
^explicitly connects demands for censorship with support for "a robust anti-trust program," implying regulatory consequences for non-compliance
Ahhh. The "we don't need no data when we have common sense" argument. Who cares about the a careful analysis when you can like FEEL IT, man. I mean, why bother to control for whether conservatives broke platform rules more often, when you can just assume both sides are the same.
Ahh. So you're creating an implication by connecting two different quotes from from two different people from two different times and calling it an explicit connection.“We’re reviewing [Section 230], and certainly they should be held accountable... It is a big and complicated ecosystem, and everybody bears responsibility to ensure that we are not providing people with bad information about a vaccine that will save their lives.”
White House reviewing Section 230 amid efforts to push social media giants to crack down on misinformation | CNN Politics
The White House is reviewing whether social media platforms should be held legally accountable for publishing misinformation via Section 230, a law that protects companies’ ability to moderate content, White House communications director Kate Bedingfield said Tuesday.
“The President’s view is that the major platforms have a responsibility related to the health and safety of all Americans to stop amplifying untrustworthy content, disinformation, and misinformation, especially related to COVID-19 vaccinations and elections... He also supports better privacy protections and a robust anti-trust program. So, his view is that there’s more that needs to be done to ensure that this type of misinformation; disinformation; damaging, sometime life-threatening information, is not going out to the American public.”
^explicitly connects demands for censorship with support for "a robust anti-trust program," implying regulatory consequences for non-compliance
You claim 10,000 emails with documented regulatory threats and you can't quote a single one?
Alright. If threatening anti trust isn't enough for you, I get the feeling you don't really want to have a discussion so much as shout into the void. So, I'm just going to leave it at that.
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I absolutely do want a reasonable discurssion. I sincerely hope that you provide a single bit of the direct evidence that you claim exists. I'm always happy to dig down to the truth regardless of which party it may hurt.
But I hate bothsidesism with a passion. Pretending that two actions are the same because the come from opposite sides of the aisle is lazy nonsense.
Take the situation we are discussing. Assume that both sides engaged in government censorship like you claim. Are they equal? I'd argue that the Biden Admin was scrambling to prevent misinformation in a public health emergency in order to save lives. On the other hand, the president has repeatedly said that he was coming after comedians who said negative things about him. Are you seriously going to argue that these are equal?!?
Sorry, but you simply fail.
Cuomo and lemon shaming lies, and with the help of censorship (WOW).
Now he takes Iver for life, due to long haul hauntings.
My what tangle weave one weaves.
I feel like I've been pretty consistent and clear that I think what the Biden administration did is, as I said, multiple order of magnitudes worse-- not exactly bothsidesism. In fact, until a week ago there was none at all-- entirely a democrat side evil.
What I did say is that I hope Trump coming down on the wrong side of this issue (last week) causes bipartisan laws to be passed preventing it from ever happening again. What happened under Biden was truly horrific and unacceptable. Discussion was quashed in every venue where it could occur, other than the one there was no means to control-- podcasts. Pressuring Amazon to ban/suppress books, Facebook/twitter/YouTube to suppress speech, etc.
Heinous.
Hopefully that eliminates a sufficient amount of bothsideism for you.
Regarding what they quashed:
a) don't think there was any public health link to Hunter Biden's laptop.
b) lots of the suppressed covid information ended up being correct. So, misguided would be a charitable take. Covering for the fact that Fauci personally signed off on using US tax payer dollars to pay for enhanced function research that's illegal to do in the USA (because it's dangerous) at a Chinese lab with a history of leaks seems... like a more realistic take.
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Overnight, (IVER&HYDRO). Amazing!
FACT, ask any doctor if millions took the Tuskegee route!
Every doctor I asked said, "Unfortunately, millions did."
Remember when they said don’t wear masks?
Remember when they had distance guidelines?
Remember when the lab leak was conspiracy theory?
All “misinformation” in period.
The scientific method is having your ideas questioned and examined— not forced.
There’s my line. Once someone brings up the claim that it was the Biden admin that censored the laptop story, then I’m out. They don’t have a reasonable grasp of reality. Time travel ain’t real. Thanks for the conversation.
WOW, even when Falsey admitted to his lies, you convince yourself. Oh boy.
I haven’t read this whole thread. But you’re the third person I’ve seen say just about that same thing to baldimac in here,
Biden had a problem with FBI whistleblowers coming forward saying g he was making them find more white supremacy groups than actually existed.
it doesn’t take much to figure out he did that to have basis for his propaganda that racists are everywhere.
Meanwhile, while Democrats are creating a problem by pretending to solve one, it was Trump who got reforms for all the racist crime bills Biden wrote and pushed through the Senate in the 80’s and 90’s
It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell
Jessica Chastain probably did not realize it but she gave the reason why Apple has delayed the shows release which is because of all the recent violence that has taken place in the US so far. we know what would happen if Apple released the show, many of the public would complain that Apple is being insensitive and disrespectful to those that have been affected by the recent violence that has take place because of the shows subject matter. Many of the public will then claim Apple is trying to financially capitalize on the recent events that have taken place in the country by releasing the show. Main stream media in the US and around the world would then start making negative news articles about Apple and it's timing of releasing the show.
Apple cannot win here, an actress wants the show released but Apple knows the negative PR backlash they will get from the public and the media if the were to release it now.
Apple cannot win here, an actress wants the show released but Apple knows the negative PR backlash they will get from the public and the media if the were to release it now.
If they cared about all people, they'd stop capitulating to 47.
But the only people they actually care about are their shareholders.
LOL @ capitulating to 47.
47 probably doesn’t even know Apple made this movie,
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing.
Easy.
Charleston? The rioters were attacking his car and he didn't want to get killed so he drove through them. Not the best idea, but this action is now legal in TX because leftists are lunatics. He himself espoused nothing racist or far-right.
Tree of life? Antisemitism is just as prevalent on the left. Ilhan Omar, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, all regularly shill for Hamas, who hate jews more than anyone else on the planet.
El Paso Walmart? Sure. Crazy loon. Call him far-right.
LA Protest? Gotta be more specific. LA riots are a regular thing.
George Floyd? Really? He had enough fentanyl in his systems to take out a hippo. Kneeling on his shoulder wasn't good, but it didn't kill him. Actually, leftist rioters killed several people across the US, including a black business owner who was found burned alive in his own bar.
Thomas Matthew-Kroll - You know nothing about the Proud Boys. They're described by neo-fascist and militant. It was literally a joke started by Gavin McInnes. They participated in fights they didn't start and because they were stupid enough to cooperate with police they were arrested and targeted, whereas Antifa wore blackblock and fled. The Dems have used them as a bogeyman for years.
Paul Pelosi? Really? It was a drug user that Paul Pelosi was most likely buying drugs from. They were both in their underwear. What about it makes him far right? Because of who they attacked? I assume that makes Rand Paul's neighbor who attacked him far left?
Anderson Lee Aldrich? He himself was nonbinary. That's distinctly left-wing.
Payton Gendron - Sure. Crazy loon. Call him far-right.
More context? Here you go.
And deceased? No. Kirk was assassinated.