The Sony Playstation 6 (PS6)

[Pezimak]

At a $1,000 it will be

That will depend on final spec. Old rumour were 30-32GB DDR7 unified RAM but to keep retail price reasonable, Sony could lower that to 24GB.

The same if true for storage. It might have 1TB instead of 2TB in order to save $100USD off the price.

RAM and storage are the biggest constraints both for pricing and supply.

We will see, but I guarantee the plan was for PS6 to be all digital before they even launched the PS5, same with Xbox Helix hence the digital models they launched. Their was so much talk if this gen was going to be digital only before it launched, now it is here everyone is going nuts even though everyone knew it was coming, and people buy digital.

But what Sony, not sure about Microsoft, could not have predicted are the astronomical component prices thanks to Ai meaning 1000 dollar consoles. How on earth they would generate any sales with that cost is anyone's guess. I bet they thought it would be around 600. We could literally be at the end of console gaming, thank to Ai and ALL the perpetrators of it!!..

 

[Populus]

But what Sony, not sure about Microsoft, could not have predicted are the astronomical component prices thanks to Ai meaning 1000 dollar consoles. How on earth they would generate any sales with that cost is anyone's guess. I bet they thought it would be around 600. We could literally be at the end of console gaming, thank to Ai and ALL the perpetrators of it!!..

Yeah, it could be the end of console gaming, at least how we’ve known it until now. Maybe it becomes a luxury like it was in the early nineties… or maybe it becomes unsustainable and the gaming market shifts towards a) GaaS, gachas, free to play games on smartphones, b) cloud streaming gaming, c) PC… What is quite sure is that the PS6 generation doesn’t get much traction, PS5 (especially the Pro variant) will get a long time of support.

Pardon, I was going to say something about AI but I got derailed…

(…) thank to Ai and ALL the perpetrators of it!!..

I think there are different actors to blame here. On one hand we have the government that is giving a free flow of cash to this AI companies, or allowing a circular, unsustainable money flow between some tech companies, a money they use to buy huge amounts of memory chips. Second obviously the AI companies buying ginormous amounts of RAM and NAND, to the point that they are causing a big disruption in the market. Third, the chip making companies, that have allowed this Data Center craze to buy most of what they produce…

 

[Macalicious2011]

We could literally be at the end of console gaming,

Yes. $1,000+ pricing could the straw breaks the camels back. The problem won’t be the price but justifying it. Hugh iPhone prices can be justified because cost per use is much lower.

For consoles:
-Graphics have reached dismissing returns. We don’t see the same generational leaps like from ps1 to ps2, 3 to 4. From 4 pro to 5 is wasn’t impressive. Felt more like frame rates improved. Shadow and lighting improvements are three but not super noticable when playing fast paced titles.

-Most popular live services will still be released on PS5 for 3 years after PS6 launch.

-Many new single player titles have or are being cancelled. Therefore the likelihood of there being a handful of incredible ps6 exclusives is minimal. If there are any, some will come to pc too.

 

[Pezimak]

Yes. $1,000+ pricing could the straw breaks the camels back. The problem won’t be the price but justifying it. Hugh iPhone prices can be justified because cost per use is much lower.

For consoles:
-Graphics have reached dismissing returns. We don’t see the same generational leaps like from ps1 to ps2, 3 to 4. From 4 pro to 5 is wasn’t impressive. Felt more like frame rates improved. Shadow and lighting improvements are three but not super noticable when playing fast paced titles.

-Most popular live services will still be released on PS5 for 3 years after PS6 launch.

-Many new single player titles have or are being cancelled. Therefore the likelihood of there being a handful of incredible ps6 exclusives is minimal. If there are any, some will come to pc too.

I don't fully agree with that, full path tracing and global illumination will make quite a difference to games on a TV. That is what has been promised, also single player games cancelled? Which ones?

 

[Macalicious2011]

I don't fully agree with that, full path tracing and global illumination will make quite a difference to games on a TV.

This is game dependent. Some have great implementation like Crimson Desert and Cyberpunk. You can tell the difference and it runs great.

Then there are other games where it’s the opposite. Either poor implementation where you barely notice the difference or the penalty for enabling ray tracing is a 30% fps drop. I can play with ray and path tracing on my PC. However for most games I would consider it a nice to have rather than something I would recommend a person to upgrade their base PS5 or 4060 GPU for.

My point is that graphical leaps are incremental and increasingly compare expensive compared with generational jumps decades ago.

also single player games cancelled? Which ones?

Every Video Game Canceled in 2025 - IGN

The cancellations of 18 games have been confirmed so far in 2025, including EA's Black Panther, Warner Bros.' Wonder Woman, and Xbox's Perfect Dark.

www.ign.com

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Several gaming studios have shut between 2024-2026 and likely include cancelled unannounced titles. Too much doubling down on franchises and live service games.

If you look here. Many of the trending and recommended games are old or remasters of old titles: Silent Hill 2, Battlefield 2042, Last of Us 1, Rainbow Six Seige, Far Cry 6. Some of these are 5 or 10 years old. Not titles that you even need PS5 Pro for and certainly won’t need a $1000 PS6 in order to play.

Through Steam PC, the majority of titles played are old! This highlights a problem. There is a lack of new and great titles.

A knock-on effect is that is lack of titles that justify expensive consoles. Why upgrade from a PS4 to a PS5 or series X if highly rated games I want to play run fine on my existing console?

 

[1rottenapple]

I remember saving and saving and buying a Sega Saturn brand new near launch day since I was a Sega Genesis die hard; $399. Equivalent to $850 now (not sure how that translates to this AI fiasco). But man those were the days when only a few people played games.

 

[1rottenapple]

This is game dependent. Some have great implementation like Crimson Desert and Cyberpunk. You can tell the difference and it runs great.

Then there are other games where it’s the opposite. Either poor implementation where you barely notice the difference or the penalty for enabling ray tracing is a 30% fps drop. I can play with ray and path tracing on my PC. However for most games I would consider it a nice to have rather than something I would recommend a person to upgrade their base PS5 or 4060 GPU for.

My point is that graphical leaps are incremental and increasingly compare expensive compared with generational jumps decades ago.

Every Video Game Canceled in 2025 - IGN

The cancellations of 18 games have been confirmed so far in 2025, including EA's Black Panther, Warner Bros.' Wonder Woman, and Xbox's Perfect Dark.

www.ign.com

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Several gaming studios have shut between 2024-2026 and likely include cancelled unannounced titles. Too much doubling down on franchises and live service games.

If you look here. Many of the trending and recommended games are old or remasters of old titles: Silent Hill 2, Battlefield 2042, Last of Us 1, Rainbow Six Seige, Far Cry 6. Some of these are 5 or 10 years old. Not titles that you even need PS5 Pro for and certainly won’t need a $1000 PS6 in order to play.

Through Steam PC, the majority of titles played are old! This highlights a problem. There is a lack of new and great titles.

A knock-on effect is that is lack of titles that justify expensive consoles. Why upgrade from a PS4 to a PS5 or series X if highly rated games I want to play run fine on my existing console?

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It seems on my youtube video feed, I am getting remakes releases. Halo, Tomb Raider, I am not really sure what modern gaming is except for these ark raiders or what ever. I frankly don't get it and will just as likely settle for an old game or gaming on my gameboy advance. I am looking forward to GTA 6 release on PC though. My ROG ally x has been collecting dust.

 

[1rottenapple]

At that price point, it may be the first Playstation since the PS1 that I don't buy at launch. I mean, the PS5 games already look amazing, how big of a leap can it possibly be anyway? PS2 -> PS3 was the last time a new gen console really floored me with the performance boost. Diminishing returns ever since...

I don't really get it. Ok you can make games as realistic as possible with lighting but really is it that big of jump from PS5? Mind you I don't have a PS5 just an ROG ally x and the graphics are good! There just no way I would want to spend so much on console plug games these day.s.

 

[1rottenapple]

i may never buy a console again. I do not have faith that any digital purchases will be mine based on actions Sony has done lately with the whole movie removal thing

It's ok, I can embrace the long game library I need to play on the ps3/ps4 and xbox

I will not spend 1k on a console that can only be a console.

Seriously I think ps3/360 is peak gaming. The nonsense with microtransactions was only starting, games felt modern, graphics were amazing.

 

[Macalicious2011]

It seems on my youtube video feed, I am getting remakes releases. Halo, Tomb Raider, I am not really sure what modern gaming is except for these ark raiders or what ever.

Follow the money. Live service games is a huge focus and so is doubling down on franchises. This means more remakes/remasters. It's cheaper and less risky than creating new IP.

 

[diamond.g]

Follow the money. Live service games is a huge focus and so is doubling down on franchises. This means more remakes/remasters. It's cheaper and less risky than creating new IP.

Doubling down on "big" "popular" franchises. Notice how we haven't gotten remakes of some games that we all thought were Sony's "prize jewels" (Infamous, Socom, Killzone, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet).

 

[Macalicious2011]

Doubling down on "big" "popular" franchises. Notice how we haven't gotten remakes of some games that we all thought were Sony's "prize jewels" (Infamous, Socom, Killzone, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet).

Hollywood isn't much different. Over the past few years, cinemas have been dominated by Marvel and Starwars movies. One after the other.