The spec argument.

[walie]

There are JB apps similar to those. I'll admit they are not as robust in the settings, mainly cause devs know there's not a huge demand for battery saving on the iPhone vs the demand for it on Android. But if Devs want to make the same exact apps for the iPhone, they could easily do so and distribute it via Cydia or whatever.

I looked, there is NOTHING on iOS that is even close to what Tasker can do. You asked to see what Android can do that jailbroken iOS can't, so I showed you some. Now you're saying "well ok, iOS can't do that, but someone can make an app that can!" Stop changing the argument, there's a difference between an actual product (Tasker) and vapourware (your iOS promises)

SBSettings does the job for me.

SBSettings and titanium back have completely different functions

Well iOS5 won't require iTunes. I myself have never minded backing up via iTunes. Unless I was to backup 100 times a week, I really don't care much about OTA much for entire backups.

Here you go again changing the target of the argument, once again, you asked what Android can do that jailbroken iOS can't in general, now you're saying that "well it's not important to me so its not a valid argument". Also are we debating what Android can do now vs what iOS can do in the Fall? If so, then your OS5 argument doesn't apply, otherwise I can say that Ice Cream Sandwich will be able to do everything iOS can and more!

This is device specific and not all Android devices have SD slots. And OTA will be here iOS5.

Also iOS & Android are to differ beasts.

IMO, iOS out of the box is already optimized to work extremely smooth ... so all that's really needed is a jailbreak for added functionality. There's really no reason for custom ROMs on the iPhone.

Android on the other hand is a whole differ story. It's more like the WM6 & below days. Devs will cook up a ROM that's better optimized to work for a specific device(s) mainly to solve a problem or cause the default ROM is crap. With WM, most ROMs were made for better memory management. With Android the big thing is power management.




Over/Under clocking should not be necessary on any new device. Also (correct me if I'm wrong), but it seems problems that some users are having with animations don't have anything to do with processing power at all. If that were the case, it would be widespread.

your counter-arguments all revolve around "its not important for me, so its moot"

i'm not even going to bother.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I looked, there is NOTHING on iOS that is even close to what Tasker can do. You asked to see what Android can do that jailbroken iOS can't, so I showed you some. Now you're saying "well ok, iOS can't do that, but someone can make an app that can!" Stop changing the argument, there's a difference between an actual product (Tasker) and vapourware (your iOS promises)

ATimeTool would be one. And I did mention the settings are not as robust as Tasker.

SBSettings and titanium back have completely different functions

I didn't selected certain text in BOLD for no reason ...

Here you go again changing the target of the argument, once again, you asked what Android can do that jailbroken iOS can't in general, now you're saying that "well it's not important to me so its not a valid argument". Also are we debating what Android can do now vs what iOS can do in the Fall? If so, then your OS5 argument doesn't apply, otherwise I can say that Ice Cream Sandwich will be able to do everything iOS can and more!


your counter-arguments all revolve around "its not important for me, so its moot"

i'm not even going to bother.

Typical lazy man's response.

I wasn't changing the target of the argument nor are my counter arguments revolve around "it's not important for me".

Read my post again. I've clearly explained that iOS & Android are separate beasts and devs are not going to make the some of the same apps and/or functions for both.

Can you give me a reasonable explanation why someone would create custom firmware for the iPhone when iOS is already as smooth as butter and just needs a Jailbreak to fulfill any lack of functionality?

As many apps or customizations that are made specifically for Android that are not made for the iPhone, there are just as many apps or customizations for the iPhone that aren't made for Android.

 

[walie]

ATimeTool would be one. And I did mention the settings are not as robust as Tasker.

ATimeTool is crap compared to Tasker. ATimeTool = based on time; Tasker = based on time, GPS location, Tower location, battery level, set certain parameters per app/contact. Saying ATimeTool is not as robust as Tasker is like saying a skateboard is not as robust as a Maybach



I didn't selected certain text in BOLD for no reason ...


Read the link to the Titanium backup site again, you still have no idea what it does





Typical lazy man's response.

I wasn't changing the target of the argument nor are my counter arguments revolve around "it's not important for me".

Read my post again. I've clearly explained that iOS & Android are separate beasts and devs are not going to make the some of the same apps and/or functions for both.

"what can a rooted or non-rooted android do that a jailbroken iPhone can't?" Remember those words? so you're saying that because iOS can't do something that Android can, its because iOS developers weren't going to make those apps anyway. Nice



Can you give me a reasonable explanation why someone would create custom firmware for the iPhone when iOS is already as smooth as butter and just needs a Jailbreak to fulfill any lack of functionality?

Because Devs can optimize the firmware to their specific needs, rather than conform, settle and resign themselves to what Apple thinks is best. Also for the lolz

As many apps or customizations that are made specifically for Android that are not made for the iPhone, there are just as many apps or customizations for the iPhone that aren't made for Android.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

ATimeTool is crap compared to Tasker. ATimeTool = based on time; Tasker = based on time, GPS location, Tower location, battery level, set certain parameters per app/contact. Saying ATimeTool is not as robust as Tasker is like saying a skateboard is not as robust as a Maybach

Read the link to the Titanium backup site again, you still have no idea what it does

"what can a rooted or non-rooted android do that a jailbroken iPhone can't?" Remember those words? so you're saying that because iOS can't do something that Android can, its because iOS developers weren't going to make those apps anyway. Nice


Because Devs can optimize the firmware to their specific needs, rather than conform, settle and resign themselves to what Apple thinks is best. Also for the lolz

Wow ... here's where the angry fanboyism comes out. Bright red colors and all.

It's really like you just read one or two sentences of my quotes and go into an angry rampage without trying to understand the point I'm making.

 

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I do have a question, is there a JB app that shows usage the same way Android show it? It would be cool to get a breakdown of what is consuming battery life on the device.