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2nyRiggz said:
Let Africa Unite and theres your powerhouse of the world...but since they are not united...I'm going with Iceland.


Bless


holy crap iceland is seriously the coolest place in the world
 
PlaceofDis said:
i agree, there has never been a large scale war on american soil. i don't think it would take much to completely wreck the United States temporairily at least. remember 911? how insane things were and how no one knew what was going on for a loooong time. things are the same if not worse now. an attack on say D.C. could and would devistate the us immediately.

Slight correction, and I agree with what you've said. But the Civil War was devastating, but not multinational. The American Revolution involved the French, the British, the Spanish and the Americans.
 
PlaceofDis said:
i agree, there has never been a large scale war on american soil.

Yeah I can't agree with that one.. more than half a million people died in the American Civil War. That's pretty large scale.
 
yellow said:
Yeah I can't agree with that one.. more than half a million people died in the American Civil War. That's pretty large scale.

What about North American wars?

Can't forget about the Native Americans. Large scale war against an entire culture over hundreds of years.
 
Unfortunately we can't even attempt to quantify that since there was no written history that details the amount of dead.
 
All this talk about Military Superpowers and nuclear war reminds me of this video.

Link. (Warning: Some language.)
 
The strongest super power the world has ever known to this very day: Italy.

My evidence:

1. Everybody loves Italian food.
2. Italy won the World Cup.
3. Gucci, Armani, Prada - you think that they are just designers? I think not. :eek:
4. Italians have nice hair.
5. I am Italian-American.
6. 67.3% of the world population believe that Italy is the world's greatest super power of all time.
7. 65.3% of Mac users enjoy pizza.
8. 58.2% of the American population believe that Italy has weapons of mass destruction and is harboring top members of Al-Qaeda.
9. Italian is very similar to Spanish. This could explain the immigrant worker problem we are having in this country. Those aren't Mexicans, they are Italian spys.
10. The Italian landmass is in the shape of a large feminine heeled boot. No one trusts heeled boots.
 
_Matt said:
The strongest super power the world has ever known to this very day: Italy.

My evidence:

1. Everybody loves Italian food.
2. Italy won the World Cup.
3. Gucci, Armani, Prada - you think that they are just designers? I think not. :eek:
4. Italians have nice hair.
5. I am Italian-American.
6. 67.3% of the world population believe that Italy is the world's greatest super power of all time.
7. 65.3% of Mac users enjoy pizza.
8. 58.2% of the American population believe that Italy has weapons of mass destruction and is harboring top members of Al-Qaeda.
9. Italian is very similar to Spanish. This could explain the immigrant worker problem we are having in this country. Those aren't Mexicans, they are Italian spys.
10. The Italian landmass is in the shape of a large feminine heeled boot. No one trusts heeled boots.

Evidence Italy can NEVER be considered a super power

1. Guys riding around on Scooters (and thinking its ok)
 
playaj82 said:
Evidence Italy can NEVER be considered a super power

1. Guys riding around on Scooters (and thinking its ok)

Excuse me sir, but I believe that the technical term for these "scooters" you mention is Vespa.

Please visit their website.

http://www.vespa.com/
 
playaj82 said:
Evidence Italy can NEVER be considered a super power

1. Guys riding around on Scooters (and thinking its ok)

Except I'd say that guys comfortable enough in their virility to ride around on Piaggios and eat icecream are pretty super to me ;)

I'd go for Rome since another important aspect of Empire is longevity. Rome was founded in 753BC and didn't fall until the 4th century - that's over a millennium with a single super power. That's astonishing... particularly when you see how much of their building/engineering still exist. The Pantheon in Rome makes your jaw hit the floor when you first see it.

The engineering feats of the aqueducts alone are astonishing particularly when you realise that the only reason Naples/Pompeii etc existed was the 60 mile long Aqueduct Augusta brought water to a barren area.

Rome was a lot like the current Western nations - taking ideas from many others and developing them further with consumerism feeding the Empire's economy. They traded with the entire world including China and controlled much of Europe, a fair chunk of Northern Africa and a large portion of Asia.

As for language, Latin still survives in the Romance languages which are evolution of it. Who knows, if instantaneous communication had existed back then, Latin might not have diverged so much and might still have been the dominant language. I firmly believe that if not for television/movie/internet, British and American English would have drifted so far apart they really would be different languages as opposed to just having amusing pronunciations and odd words.
 
_Matt said:
The strongest super power the world has ever known to this very day: Italy.

My evidence:

1. Everybody loves Italian food.
2. Italy won the World Cup.
3. Gucci, Armani, Prada - you think that they are just designers? I think not. :eek:
4. Italians have nice hair.
5. I am Italian-American.
6. 67.3% of the world population believe that Italy is the world's greatest super power of all time.
7. 65.3% of Mac users enjoy pizza.
8. 58.2% of the American population believe that Italy has weapons of mass destruction and is harboring top members of Al-Qaeda.
9. Italian is very similar to Spanish. This could explain the immigrant worker problem we are having in this country. Those aren't Mexicans, they are Italian spys.
10. The Italian landmass is in the shape of a large feminine heeled boot. No one trusts heeled boots.
11. Italian women are (per capita) the hottest on the planet...
 
Applespider said:
I'd go for Rome since another important aspect of Empire is longevity. Rome was founded in 753BC and didn't fall until the 4th century - that's over a millennium with a single super power.
The Roman Empire finally died in 1453 if you count their offshoot the Byzantines. That's 2206 years. Not bad.

ham_man said:
11. Italian women are (per capita) the hottest on the planet...
Italian men aren't bad either ;)
 
yellow said:
Unfortunately we can't even attempt to quantify that since there was no written history that details the amount of dead.

i suppose i should have been a bit more clearer. i meant not in terms of casualties, but area and the amount in which are actual property and livelihood has been destroyed, and yes a vast majority of the country at the time was physically damaged but there were resources elsewere to move on too at the same time.
 
dynamicv said:
Italian men aren't bad either ;)
Indeed, I have a bad case of lust over Fabio Cannavaro

cannavaro.jpg
 
Applespider said:
Indeed, I have a bad case of lust over Fabio Cannavaro

cannavaro.jpg
That pic would have been much funnier had they given him two soccer balls instead of one. It would just cut right to the chase... :rolleyes:
 
ham_man said:
I'd pick the sides with the Delta Force, the Green Berets, the Rangers, the SEALs, the side with the most nukes, the side with the laser guided bombs, the side with the Airborne, the side with the GPS guided bombs, the side with the marines, the side with the F-117, the side with the B-2, the side with the F-22... :rolleyes:

I'd actually pick the side that knows how to fight, use their weapons - ie the side with the SAS, the Royal Marines (aka Green Berets ;)), and gurkhas; and manage to win wars unaided by third parties. But let's not turn this into a political thread. :rolleyes:
 
mrgreen4242 said:
I discount the Chinese at this point because we live in a predominantly Western world. The Chinese have had and do have a vast, vast empire that I'm not discounting out of hand, but they have, as of yet, had a substancial influence on a global scale. That is of course changing. In as little as 50 years, maybe 100, it will be easy to make a case that China's empire is the most powerful in absolute terms, both military and economic, as well as the influence they are likely to have on global society by that point.

Gunpowder [already said]
Paper
Paper Money
Printing
Beer
Whisky
Pasta
Kites
Silk
Oil wells
Compass
First counting device (abacus)
etc.
etc.
 
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