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The stuff we (Mac users) put up with!

Passante said:
Your missing the best part of OS X. Everything is integrated. Every time you send an email you make a new entry in address book. My address book is always up to date because I don't have to update both my email program AND my address book .Mac is fantastic if you have two systems. It keeps bookmarks and calendars in sync. Give it a try. You may find yourself liking it.
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I do like the integration, but sometimes it does bother me as well. For example, when you add a new buddy in iChat, it prompts you to add a new contact in address book, but sometimes I don't feel like doing that.
 
slooksterPSV said:
iDisk is to Mac as iFolder is to Novell

So strange.
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That is strange. :(

That does remind me, though, spotty compatibility with WebDAV implementations that work in apps like Goliath. Especially WebDAV from Novell.... :(
 
Both of my computers (Mac and PC) give me problems. The Spyware in Windows thing is overhyped. If you don't know how to use your computer, you'll screw it up, it's just a little harder to do on the Mac.

There's nothing that really bothers me about the Mac, specifically. I dislike the Quicktime Pro thing like everyone else in here, but overall most of my mac problems are due to 3rd party stuff - printer drivers not supporting dual sided printing on the mac and the like.

I like both of my computers, and you've got to put up with some crap, no matter what you're using.
 
mwpeters8182 said:
Both of my computers (Mac and PC) give me problems. The Spyware in Windows thing is overhyped. If you don't know how to use your computer, you'll screw it up, it's just a little harder to do on the Mac.

There's nothing that really bothers me about the Mac, specifically. I dislike the Quicktime Pro thing like everyone else in here, but overall most of my mac problems are due to 3rd party stuff - printer drivers not supporting dual sided printing on the mac and the like.

I like both of my computers, and you've got to put up with some crap, no matter what you're using.
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Speaking of that, someone give me an OS that just works out of the box. No problems or minimal amount of problems.
 
slooksterPSV said:
Speaking of that, someone give me an OS that just works out of the box. No problems or minimal amount of problems.
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I'd say any computer works, out of the box with no, or minimal problems. Even a crappy walmart computer would work - take it home, plug it in, and it works. It's when we try to USE the computer we run in to issues, or (especially in windows) you add peripherals, etc.
 
the only think that i hate about mac is the MSN messenger/ microsoft messenger and the main thing is NO WEBCAM support..not even VOICE..this has been discussed somewhere esle...newayz, this is Mircosoft...
 
To me, the state of other IM software on the Mac bothers me more than .Mac buggings. I've only been bugged about it really when installing OS X, and that I can deal with (especially since I have a .Mac account). I'm more irritated that my employer uses MSN as the IM software (since we have 3 offices full of people whose job is to be on the phone doing support, we can't reliably call each other but need something relatively instant) and the people who use Macs are stuck with a substandard client.
 
louis_sx said:
To me, the state of other IM software on the Mac bothers me more than .Mac buggings. I've only been bugged about it really when installing OS X, and that I can deal with (especially since I have a .Mac account). I'm more irritated that my employer uses MSN as the IM software (since we have 3 offices full of people whose job is to be on the phone doing support, we can't reliably call each other but need something relatively instant) and the people who use Macs are stuck with a substandard client.
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Dude, there is nothing substandard about Adium and/ or Proteus. Look into those.
 
nichos said:
I'd say any computer works, out of the box with no, or minimal problems. Even a crappy walmart computer would work - take it home, plug it in, and it works. It's when we try to USE the computer we run in to issues, or (especially in windows) you add peripherals, etc.
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There ya go, but Mac OS X works better out of the box. I'm still not sure what you guys are complaining about with the iDisk or .Mac or whatever. I don't even notice it. Heck even when I search through the Finder menu's I still don't barely see it (like realize what I'm looking at). So its just not a big deal with me.
 
rickvanr said:
Dude, there is nothing substandard about Adium and/ or Proteus. Look into those.
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I love Adium, but I don't think anyone would argue the point that it does not support all features of the current release levels of the clients it emulates -- AV is the most notable exception, but in the case of MSN, there are some other things as well.

Outside of iChat and AIM, and I guess, Skype, there are really not a lot of options for AV chat on MacOS. aMSN appears to be bridging that gap, and I believe GAIM will as well, eventually opening the door for Adium to provide this, but today, that is not the case.

Nonetheless, for text IM, I absolutely adore Adium, and would not leave it for any chat software, with the possible exception of Trillian.
 
mkrishnan said:
I love Adium, but I don't think anyone would argue the point that it does not support all features of the current release levels of the clients it emulates -- AV is the most notable exception, but in the case of MSN, there are some other things as well.

Outside of iChat and AIM, and I guess, Skype, there are really not a lot of options for AV chat on MacOS. aMSN appears to be bridging that gap, and I believe GAIM will as well, eventually opening the door for Adium to provide this, but today, that is not the case.

Nonetheless, for text IM, I absolutely adore Adium, and would not leave it for any chat software, with the possible exception of Trillian.
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I've used Trillian, but I don't like it. I think Adium is better than Trillian. As for aMSN - never heard of it, but sounds awesome. Why can't everyone else just download AIM and you use iChat to speak with/see them? I know I know, they're just lazy.
 
mkrishnan said:
aMSN appears to be bridging that gap, and I believe GAIM will as well, eventually opening the door for Adium to provide this, but today, that is not the case.
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Gaim 2.0 will merge the gaim-vv project, so that should be at least one step closer to A/V on the Mac.

slooksterPSV said:
I've used Trillian, but I don't like it. I think Adium is better than Trillian. As for aMSN - never heard of it, but sounds awesome. Why can't everyone else just download AIM and you use iChat to speak with/see them? I know I know, they're just lazy.
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Because the official AIM client is like some kind of Hellspawn? I'd rather use MSN Messenger if I had to choose between the two of them. The AIM client is awful, IMO. Got nothing to do with lazyness, at least not in my case.

I'm a fan of Trillian on Windows, but I'm not sure if I'd rate it as better or worse than Adium. The Pro version even support A/V (not that I actually use audio or video at all).
 
slooksterPSV said:
I've used Trillian, but I don't like it. I think Adium is better than Trillian. As for aMSN - never heard of it, but sounds awesome. Why can't everyone else just download AIM and you use iChat to speak with/see them? I know I know, they're just lazy.
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Yeah, yeah, I know.... :rolleyes:

Trillian was not something I cared for until ... I think 3.0? And then at some point it became much nicer. But to each their own.

I actually...ahem...don't have a webcam that works on my Mac. But my friends who do have one mostly use MSN over AIM for some reason... when integration of IM services finally happens at the AV level it will be very nice.

Here is aMSN: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
 
mkrishnan said:
Yeah, yeah, I know.... :rolleyes:

Trillian was not something I cared for until ... I think 3.0? And then at some point it became much nicer. But to each their own.

I actually...ahem...don't have a webcam that works on my Mac. But my friends who do have one mostly use MSN over AIM for some reason... when integration of IM services finally happens at the AV level it will be very nice.

Here is aMSN: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
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AIM, AOL can save your conversations if they want. They can monitor them too. That may be a reason why or MSN just looks better I have to say.
 
Nermal said:
Windows isn't really any different in that regard - to set a browser as the default, you need to open the browser then choose Make Default in its options.
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So, let's not be like Windows... the Internet System Prefs panel needs to return... It makes sense to change a global internet setting in the global prefs application... :rolleyes:
 
slooksterPSV said:
AIM, AOL can save your conversations if they want. They can monitor them too. That may be a reason why or MSN just looks better I have to say.
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Has MSN promised not to do that, or do you mean they let you around it by letting you go direct-connect?
 
mkrishnan said:
Has MSN promised not to do that, or do you mean they let you around it by letting you go direct-connect?
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I never thought about that. MSN probably is spying on you, but doesn't put it in the EULA without making it all complex to where only PH.D. Doctors understand it.
 
Nermal said:
Windows isn't really any different in that regard - to set a browser as the default, you need to open the browser then choose Make Default in its options.
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Technically, no - you do it from the "internet options" window - which is in the contorl panel. When you do it from IE, it opens that same window. You should be able to set the default for OS X in system preferences. However, since the control panel is really just IE, with a different toolbar, you're sort of right:)
 
I would like to say one more thing i had about macs:
WHY can't they use ANY standards? Back in the days of the quicksilver they had some weird DVI-like video output, WHY?!
Another example, actually has to do with the quicksilver - what was with the weird audio in/out? Why must they do that crap?
 
nichos said:
I would like to say one more thing i had about macs:
WHY can't they use ANY standards? Back in the days of the quicksilver they had some weird DVI-like video output, WHY?!
Another example, actually has to do with the quicksilver - what was with the weird audio in/out? Why must they do that crap?
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They get ahead of standards. Think about it, every Video card you buy now (almost) will have DVI.
 
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