The stuff we (Mac users) put up with!

[dubbz]

They get ahead of standards. Think about it, every Video card you buy now (almost) will have DVI.

By DVI-like, I belive nichos ment Apple's ADC... which Apple has abandoned now.

 

[nichos]

By DVI-like, I belive nichos ment Apple's ADC... which Apple has abandoned now.

Yep - I'm assuming ADC is better than VGA, but I'm also assuming they didn't document it, or held strict copyrights on it, that made other manufacturers come up with their own, and thus, apple had to abandon it.

 

[trainguy77]

They are always trying to do something new. For example when apple created firewire no one used it expect for the IPOD. But look at it now.....Its even on nice PCs. Apple new it was better then USB, so they stuck with it.

 

[nichos]

They are always trying to do something new. For example when apple created firewire no one used it expect for the IPOD. But look at it now.....Its even on nice PCs. Apple new it was better then USB, so they stuck with it.

But then where did it go with the iPod? I'll agree with you that apple is really the only company willing to take risks, but the proprietary stuff at our expense is bs

 

[mkrishnan]

But then where did it go with the iPod? I'll agree with you that apple is really the only company willing to take risks, but the proprietary stuff at our expense is bs

I also wonder whether it was the 'pod or firewire video cameras that caused FW to start appearing on PCs...Sony has been the biggest IEEE-1394 supporter in the Windows world, and guess what they make besides computers!

 

[slooksterPSV]

I also wonder whether it was the 'pod or firewire video cameras that caused FW to start appearing on PCs...Sony has been the biggest IEEE-1394 supporter in the Windows world, and guess what they make besides computers!

I can tell you right now, without even looking it up, it was video. Video is such an industry demand in specific areas, that USB at 512KB/S transferring like 600MB+ of Vid Data just doesn't cut it. Firewire also doesn't use the CPU Bus unlike USB - found that out on this forum. ...wait, CPU Bus... did I get that right? I think I'm thinking it doesn't require the CPU to transfer data unlike USB. Transfer a lot of stuff between USB to HD and watch your Activity Monitor. Now do the same with Firewire.

 

[solvs]

Closing programs

Does anyone know a way to close out of a program instead of just closing the window by just clicking something? I mean, I know - Command+Q or right click on the dock and choose Quit, but no way to just click a button like with Windows? Even with a third party program or hack? There's got to be a way, but I haven't found it yet.

 

[rickvanr]

Does anyone know a way to close out of a program instead of just closing the window by just clicking something? I mean, I know - Command+Q or right click on the dock and choose Quit, but no way to just click a button like with Windows? Even with a third party program or hack? There's got to be a way, but I haven't found it yet.

Some apps, like iPhoto close when you click the red button, and it bugs me beyond belief. I like having to quit, it makes the amount of times I don't want to quit by accidently hitting the wrong button happen far less.

 

[nichos]

Some apps, like iPhoto close when you click the red button, and it bugs me beyond belief. I like having to quit, it makes the amount of times I don't want to quit by accidently hitting the wrong button happen far less.

I noticed that too! I was using an old install of Jaquar, and I had to command - Q to quit system preferences, where Tiger you can just click the red.

 

[cjc343]

There's no way that I know of, but one shortcut you might still appreciate is:

When you're switching between apps using Command + Tab, you can let go of tab, and press "Q" while an app is selected to quit that app. Also, if you hold Command, Shift + Tab will navigate backwards, Tab will navigate forwards, the arrow keys can navigate through apps, and you can use the mouse to hover over an app.

 

[solvs]

Thanks, but yeah, I'm familiar with those. Just wanted a way to close an app with the mouse. I like that iPhoto and Sys Prefs close when you click the red. I'm always accidentally leaving TextEdit and Preview open because I forgot to CMD-Q. If there was some kind of hack or add-on or something to add a close button, or shortcut that didn't involve keyboard keys, that would make my day.

 

[Vanilla]

My main gripe is with the .Mac implementation. I love the concept, but the reality is that it's a dog slow/wading through treacle experience which is incredibly frustrating. If only they could make it as transparent as interacting with an external drive I would use it far more enthusiastically than I am currently.
Vanilla

 

[dylanemcgregor]

Sorry to ressurect this thread, but I had to comment on a couple of things that bug me and no one else about Mac software.

The biggest by far is the inability to "maximize" a window. I hate it when I'm working in Dreamweaver or Photoshop and I click on the desktop, and all of a sudden the application focus switches to the Finder. Plus it just feels messy to me to have overlapping windows. I know no one else here will agree with me, and most of you hate having a maximized window, but I wanted to get it off my chest.

The other thing is the lack of two button touchpads on the laptops. I use a laptop exclusively without an attached mouse. Not having two buttons or configurable tapzones like every laptop I've owned over the last 10 years will keep the Mac from being my primary machine. (I find it funny when Mac users got pretty excited about being able to scroll using two fingers on a touchpad, they are always skeptical when I tell them that my '96 Dell allowed me to scroll by dragging my finger along the right side of the pad.)

No bashing intended btw. I really like how well Macs do a lot of things and wish my laptop could be as easy to use, but other things easily annoy me.

-Dylan

 

[eva01]

Sorry to ressurect this thread, but I had to comment on a couple of things that bug me and no one else about Mac software.

The biggest by far is the inability to "maximize" a window. I hate it when I'm working in Dreamweaver or Photoshop and I click on the desktop, and all of a sudden the application focus switches to the Finder. Plus it just feels messy to me to have overlapping windows. I know no one else here will agree with me, and most of you hate having a maximized window, but I wanted to get it off my chest.

The other thing is the lack of two button touchpads on the laptops. I use a laptop exclusively without an attached mouse. Not having two buttons or configurable tapzones like every laptop I've owned over the last 10 years will keep the Mac from being my primary machine. (I find it funny when Mac users got pretty excited about being able to scroll using two fingers on a touchpad, they are always skeptical when I tell them that my '96 Dell allowed me to scroll by dragging my finger along the right side of the pad.)

No bashing intended btw. I really like how well Macs do a lot of things and wish my laptop could be as easy to use, but other things easily annoy me.

-Dylan

you do know photoshop allows you to go into a fullscreen version?

 

[dylanemcgregor]

you do know photoshop allows you to go into a fullscreen version?

I didn't know that, I don't really use Photoshop much. I just sometimes do troubleshooting for my GF while she is using it. Thanks for the info though.

 

[sunfast]

Quicktime

Not being able to fullscreen Quicktime without going "pro" pisses me off.

I just wish I could have one video player that does everything rather than having 3 (Quicktime, VLC and Real).

 

[nbs2]

(I find it funny when Mac users got pretty excited about being able to scroll using two fingers on a touchpad, they are always skeptical when I tell them that my '96 Dell allowed me to scroll by dragging my finger along the right side of the pad.)

That's kind of funnny - that was a factor in my getting a PB. I had a Vaio that was all nice and friendly and had the scrolling on the side and bottom. But I found it to be too extreme - sometimes I would just be moving the pointer from the top to bottom of the page and it would scroll, other times I would want ot scroll and the pointer would either sit and stare at me or just mozy on down the page. I actually prefer not to have the scrolling thing irritating me.

I do have to admit that the pseudo-Expose on my wife's Toshiba is kind of cool with the hot corners of the trackpad. I wouldn't want it on my computer, but it is a nice feature for not being Expose.

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

That doesn't remove it from the "go" menu

Just to bring this up again:

You need to install Developer Tools and use Interface Builder to edit /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Menus.nib

Edit: Remember backup...