The Sun vs iPhone, Round One....Sun 1 - iPhone 0

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by boss1, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. boss1 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    A lot of design thought went into the iPhone. Apple is well known for attention to the slightest of details when it comes to this category. They have won many prestigious awards for best product design also.

    All that said, I think Apple intentionally or unintentionally overlooked one design flaw in the iPhone I haven't noticed until today.

    I'm going to use Keys for comparison to the iPhone for this thread. Why keys? Keys tend to get placed, moved around, and carried around, and used in a very similar fashion to cell phones. Some times we put our keys on the table, sometimes we put them in our pockets, sometimes we throw them on the car seat or the couch. We take our keys to just about every place we take our cellphones. To the beach, the park, work, school, etc.

    Well, one thing we know about keys but never really worry much about is that if you put your keys on a table outdoors, on top of your car, on your car seat, on your dash, just about anywhere outside for any longer than 10 minutes under direct sunlight is that they get scorching hot! BUT we really don't pay too much mind to that little fact, even if you put your keys in your pocket when the shiny chrome keys are hot the worst that you'd feel is a warm spot on your leg for a few seconds, unless you press the hot keys in your pocket against your leg then you'd really feel the burn. but who does that?

    Now comes the iPhone (some of you already figured out where i'm going with this and are already cringing at the the thought ;) ). Yes iPhone version 1 has a shiny chrome rim. It was about 11 AM today, not sure what temperature, lets just say beach weather. There my iPhone lay on the car seat slowly baking under direct sunlight. Not too long, I would say it was about a 15 minute drive. Just as I was parking my iPhone rings and I answer the call. Now it didn't exactly feel like a hot prod used to mark cattle but very uncomfortable to say the least.

    So Apple, or someone who knows someone who knows someone at Apple, if this somehow catches your attention. Keep this in mind when you design iPhone Version 2.

    PS: I think this is a lesson many Sunglass manufacturers have learned over the past decade. You ever notice the nose guards on just about every pair of sunglasses are no longer made of any metal like material. Not only is rubber or plastic more comfortable, it doesn't cook your nose if you put your glasses on after having left your glasses exposed to direct sunlight.
  2. ObsidianIce macrumors 6502


    Jun 1, 2004
    Seventh Circle of Hell
    valid concern, but I think most people are aware that you don't leave electronics laying around in direct sunlight period otherwise they do tend to heat up, chrome or not. This goes for pretty much any cell phone as well. I left my old Vx9800 on my dash and does get hot. I highly recommend putting it in the console between the 2 front seats or in the front dash.:D
  3. magicjames92 macrumors regular

    Apr 15, 2007
  4. boss1 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    well yes any electronic device shouldn't be left out in direct sunlight, I know that :p but theres a big difference between putting a plastic device on your face and a metal one during a hot day.

    EDIT: Like I understand this little concern I have is probably very minute. I just thought it is something that could have been done differently. I've never careful to pay attention to the temperature of a cellphone before putting it on my face until all im saying.
  5. severe macrumors 6502a

    May 23, 2007
    Another note:

    iPhone does NOT work underwater.

    Oh... and don't try to stick it up your nose.


  6. MarkMS macrumors 6502a

    Aug 30, 2006
    I can just imagine the facial expressions when someone puts a hot, searing phone onto their ear.

    :eek::eek::eek: :apple:
  7. pdpfilms macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2004
    ...more like iPhone vs. boss1 Round One.

    I'd have to say it's more the responsibility of the customer not to leave their $500 gadget in direct sun than it is the manufacturer to alter their *almost* perfect design.
  8. boss1 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    :D Well I wanted to post a thread up regarding one of my daily usage concerns. I have another concern and I was going to title that thread Finger foods vs iPhone, Round One....Finger Foods 1 - iPhone 0

    But I think I'll keep that one to myself :p
  9. MarkMS macrumors 6502a

    Aug 30, 2006
    Amen to that!
  10. iAmLegend macrumors regular


    Jul 8, 2007
    The iPhone Vs. The Sun is not a very fair matchup. Perhaps you should start the phone off against a flashlight and let it build up some stamina. By next year, it might even be ready to battle a small forrest fire.
  11. savar macrumors 68000


    Jun 6, 2003
    District of Columbia
    my sunglasses are metal and i usually leave them in my car. i just stick them in the shade so they don't get hot. sure, i could buy plastic sunglasses, but they look cheap and feel cheap.

    same goes for the phone. its got metal so it looks nice. dont leave metal objects baking in the sun if you want to put them next to your face. this is about as obvious as saying, "don't bake the iphone in the oven immediately before you make a call."
  12. yoman macrumors 6502a


    Nov 11, 2003
    In the Bowels of the Cosmos
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1C25 Safari/419.3)

    Just a sidenote. Leaving your iPhone or any electronic in direct sunlight reduces the battery life.
  13. j00d macrumors member

    Jul 27, 2007
    apple engineers aren't going to do jacksquat about this, are you high
  14. Blurg Guest

    May 3, 2005
    I think it's actually a brilliant design. Leaving an iPhone in the direct sunlight is bad for the phone, as many here have pointed out. Hence, the chrome discourages you from doing this by heating up to the point of discomfort when you pick up an iPhone that's been left in sunlight. Therefore, you're conditioned to never leave your phone in the sun because it's uncomfortable to pick up.
  15. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    I always wondered who the absurd caution labels on products (Warning: Do not fold stroller when child is seated in it) were directed at. :rolleyes:
  16. ejrizo macrumors 6502


    Jun 26, 2007
    Los Angeles
    or the old ... DO NOT EAT IPOD SHUFFLE on apples shuffle page...



  17. sbrownla macrumors regular

    May 28, 2007
    jack holes

    A warning is absolutely necessary because no one has had to worry about this with their mobile phones before.

    The majority of people who bought this thing do not molest their gadgets as frequently as do those of you sedentary morons who have chosen to ridicule the original poster. Therefore, it would make sense for Apple to provide some sort of warning.

    Sure other phones get hot, but the plastic on them cools a lot faster than a pane of glass would. Not to mention a bloody huge glass pane that you immediately press against your face if the device rings. How many huge glass panes do we press to our faces on a daily basis? What are you guys, coke heads?

    Phones were made to be answered, not babied and set in the shade while they are allowed to cool off. You are blaming the wrong people; this poster has a good, valid point.
  18. synth3tik macrumors 68040


    Oct 11, 2006
    Minneapolis, MN
    You should have known this. come on, it's not a design flaw. It's a pieve of electronic equipment.
  19. pdpfilms macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2004
    That is hilarious. Good one!:p
  20. j00d macrumors member

    Jul 27, 2007
    hopefully no one listens to you and forces the next iphone to be made of plastic
  21. DXoverDY macrumors 6502a

    Apr 19, 2005
    Just thought I'd mention this. About a year and a half ago I bought a Razr with verizon on a family plan. Went to a brother's graduation where it was like 85 degrees outside. Blazing hot sun. I had my phone in my pocket. Took said phone out of my pocket after the ceremony to see if anyone had called. Phone == Dead. The screen apparently toasted itself in the heat. I could make calls and stuff, but the screen was a goner.

    Not sure if it was related to the heat. But it was hot.. probably 95+ in my pocket. Was pretty disappointed.
  22. megfilmworks macrumors 68020


    Jul 1, 2007
    Sherman Oaks
    Leave anything in direct sunlight, or worse on the dashboard of a closed car, and you should expect the worst, especially with electronics. Hey, why not leave a Dove bar there while your at it.
  23. nfocus design macrumors regular

    nfocus design

    Aug 3, 2004
    There is a huge difference between design flaw and common sense. This falls under common sense. If you don't have the common sense to keep your phone out of direct sun, you probably don't have the common sense to suspect that it just might be hot and maybe I shouldn't put it up to my ear.

    You say it was there in the seat for 15 minutes while you were driving. Do you not have A/C in your car. I can't imagine that the phone was really that hot if you were able to sit in the car yourself. Apple did provide you with two other methods of answering the phone that do not involve touching the screen to your face. Speaker and earphones.
  24. gr8tfly macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2006
    ~119W 34N
    I guess by the same logic, car manufacturers should make seatbelt connectors out of plastic, 'cause the shiny metal gets too hot to touch after being parked in the sun.

    Oh, and hot coffee is hot. :/

    btw, this is from the iPhone User Guide (and virtually identical to every other electronic device I've owned):

    Keeping iPhone Within Acceptable Temperatures
    Operate iPhone in a place where the temperature is always between 0o and 35o C (32o to 95o F). Battery life might temporarily shorten in low-temperature conditions. Store iPhone in a place where the temperature is always between -20o and 45o C (-4o to 113o F). Don’t leave iPhone in your car, because temperatures in parked cars can exceed this range.

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