The True Detective Season 1 (HBO) Thread *SPOILERS*

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One more TV thread. This show feels more like a long movie to me. Matthew McConaughey is amazing and while I felt the first two episodes were slow, the last three have really delivered.

What do y'all think of Rust? Is he a good cop or something else?
 

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Agreed, this show is pure gold.

Saw 3-5 today and while you could see it coming it's still amazingly written, shot and executed. I admittedly have a hard time following the dialogues at times though.

And I do think he's a horrible cop yet exactly the guy you want to work your own case if need be. :D


Btw. I'm convinced Rust operates undercover - as a drunk - Marty is also involved. Very interested in how everything pans out!
 
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I've just posted a comprehensive clue sheet on my blog - subtle hints that point to the plot climax, right from ep 1-6 ... check it out and do post your views, hints, theories :)
 

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I'm digging all the theories I keep reading online. I read a "Fight Club" theory where people are thinking that Rust and Marty are actually the same person ("without me buddy, there is no you"). I don't buy that, though.

Uggggh 7 more days until episode #7 :)
 

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I'm digging all the theories I keep reading online. I read a "Fight Club" theory where people are thinking that Rust and Marty are actually the same person ("without me buddy, there is no you"). I don't buy that, though.

Uggggh 7 more days until episode #7 :)
IMHO, going "fight club" would be a disappointment.
 

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IMHO, going "fight club" would be a disappointment.
Yeah that'd be kind of a cop-out I think. I think people are just going stir-crazy waiting for the last couple episodes to air :p

I saw on another thread, something about the preview for next week looked like they were inside that storage unit Rust keeps. That should be interesting.
 

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From the last 5 secs of ep 7 preview am guessing Marty watches something ill happen to his daughter on the computer / tv - perhaps some evil thing by grandpa... Boy this series is like a onion, one layer peeled off in each episode... Gosh have to wait 7 more days. Can't wait.
 

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I noted in another TV thread that True Detective has been the find of the year for me.

While I think the story itself is pretty compelling, and a far cry from the typical cop show, overall I'm very impressed with the look of the show: they got just about everything right, from the slightly blown-out exposure of the exterior shots, the perfect aging of the main characters (over several years), to the beautiful awfulness of the Bayou-industrial wasteland a lot of the action take place in.

One of the thing that I thought made Breaking Bad such a great show was the cinematography - and I think True Detective follows along the same lines. No - it doesn't use some of BB's weird point-of-view tricks (ie. cameras buried in the ground or on the tip of a shovel) - but it does recognize the value of a gorgeously lit and framed shot in establishing a "feel" for the action that is going down.

Oh, and the soundtrack is pretty awesome too.
 

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So I've seen episode 6 yesterday. Seems like my theory about Rust working undercover works out - it seems like I was in the wrong about Marty being involved though. :D

Anyway, read your IronCladZone blog and while I'd agree about the number of involved prime bad guys to be 5 (good spotting there!) I don't think they pull a Fight Club at all, too. First of all this would be plain stupid imho, didn't work in the movie FightClub for me too. It is clearly shown that Rust is by far the only pushing, investigating person with Marty being totally self-absorbed, so there actually is only one alpha detective operating. Also don't forget that True Detective will change protagonists after each season, so the title being singular rather than plural doesn't mean a thing imho.

So, question is who are those five baddies? The Cook (and his friend ?), Tatum (don't really think so), Tuttle, Maggie's pa (there is one of these spiral symbols upon his wall at home drawn from kid's hand, shown in #2?). Who's the man with the scar? Edit: That lawnmower man working at Tuttle's school got a facial scar, right?

One plea though: if you mention any spoilers based on the preview(s), could you whiten them out please? I don't watch these and otherwise I'd to avoid this thread too..thx! :D

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Anyone here knows the book The King in Yellow? Will read that right away.
 
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What I like about this show, among all the things already mentioned in this thread, is that there are a ton of red herrings yet they don't come along forced nor does it seem like the show is about some 180° major reveal in the grand finale. Most of it is rather predictable in a good way and / or evolves organically yet it still leaves you guessing and questioning almost every action taken during it's course; which I think is the best way to play it.
I too like how people make a Cult's heRo out of Rust Cohle yet it's at least equally possible that cole (black) is placed in opposition to gold (as in the yellow king). Maybe Marty is even going to die as a martyr. Who knows - don't think there will be any kind of happy ending.

Who else thinks Rust is going to get crucified in the end?
 
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I don't get the hype. Love almost every HBO show but True Detective bores the hell out of me. Can barely get through one episode.
 

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Yes twietee, I agree - I also think that the lawnmower shown at the old shool is involved. I think he is the real Reggie Ledoux and not the man who was shot by Marty.

I also think that the guy whom Lisa takes home could be one of the 5 culprits. The guy who was beaten and thrashed by Marty.

Keeping fingers crossed for the ep 7 :)
 

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Not sure if he is 'famous' across the pond but the name Ledoux always reminds me upon that real life monster from Belgium Dutroux. Look his story up if you don't know about him, I don't think it's an accident - nothing is in this show.

But that youngster? Don't think so. More likely the two Tuttles imho (rev and gouvernor). But yes, next two weeks will be intense!

I haven't seen the preview yet the internet is all over the daughter linked to what's happening next and what happened in the past. Not so sure myself about that; would make sense without that too imho.
 

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I also think that the guy whom Lisa takes home could be one of the 5 culprits. The guy who was beaten and thrashed by Marty.

Keeping fingers crossed for the ep 7 :)
Sorry, thought Lisa was Marty's daughter and you meant the guy he beat up in prison. But why do you suspect him at all anyway? Must have missed some major hints then.

I like how some folks on the internet pointed out that Lisa and Beth are basically the same name. Elisabeth.

Three days left! :)
 

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Well, it seems to be a long shot, but perhaps that guy hooked up with Lisa at the bar, to get information on Marty. Just a wild guess... highly unlikely though :)
 

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Just finished Episode 7. I liked it, and now we know who the spaghetti monster is. That being said, the more answers we find, the more questions come up. Is Errol the Yellow King? Is there another figure? Can't wait for the finale!
 

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My guess for the next season are the two black detectives being the lead.
 

twietee

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Just finished Episode 7. I liked it, and now we know who the spaghetti monster is. That being said, the more answers we find, the more questions come up. Is Errol the Yellow King? Is there another figure? Can't wait for the finale!
Seven was the slowest episode so far, probably because it's usually quiet before the storm.
Unfortunately, I don't think that they will survive.
 

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I think the idea was to introduce a completely new story this season
I'd hope that they have a completely new cast of characters, in a completely different location, etc.

I've enjoyed True Detective immensely this year. But having the same people come back year after year seems to often represent laziness on the part of TV producers, and lack of adventure on the part of audiences.

There are some stories that can't be told adequately in a 2-hour movie. But there are no stories that are worth repeating 22 times a year for a dozen or so years.
 

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There are some stories that can't be told adequately in a 2-hour movie. But there are no stories that are worth repeating 22 times a year for a dozen or so years.
That's probably why there are rarely any 22 episode-per-season shows that go beyond 6 or 7 seasons (2/3 of new shows don't even get to a 2nd season). Even the longer running shows typically have an ensemble cast that's changed over the years.
 

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That's probably why there are rarely any 22 episode-per-season shows that go beyond 6 or 7 seasons (2/3 of new shows don't even get to a 2nd season). Even the longer running shows typically have an ensemble cast that's changed over the years.
I think that goes more for drama movies. on the other hand, comedies tend to keep the same ensemble cast over 5-7 years. Examples like The Office, 30 Rock, Parks and Recreation, and Community show that dramas have a hard time to keep the cast together.