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The unofficial "I'm waiting for Sandy Bridge" thread ...
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Here we go again 
Waiting for:
- Sandy Bridge quad core
- LightPeak ports
- IPS display
- SSD ONLY, as a default on the whole line-up (by the end of 2010 we'll have 160gb, 300gb and 600gb 25nm Intel SSDs at a relatively acceptable price), that we'll be the biggest (default) speed boost in macs in years
- case redesign after 2 years of unibody2008-design (imac Alu2007 design also lasted 2 years)
- "Spotlight on notebooks" event in October 2010
- battery life stays the same but you get a quad core
Waiting for:
- Sandy Bridge quad core
- LightPeak ports
- IPS display
- SSD ONLY, as a default on the whole line-up (by the end of 2010 we'll have 160gb, 300gb and 600gb 25nm Intel SSDs at a relatively acceptable price), that we'll be the biggest (default) speed boost in macs in years
- case redesign after 2 years of unibody2008-design (imac Alu2007 design also lasted 2 years)
- "Spotlight on notebooks" event in October 2010
- battery life stays the same but you get a quad core
Actually at least 2 other "Waiting for Sandy Bridge" threads had ALREADY been open months ago.
This is the third "Waiting for Sandy Bridge" thread I remember here.
I'm curious to find out whether intel will be able to improve the architecture enough to keep the heat and power consumption under control with four cores in a mobile platform. I know they will be able to make it all function, but will they be able to improve on heat and power enough to improve on Arrandale? I suspect that improving on battery life will be a challenge in situations where all cores are utilized.
Please see either:
March 21 2009 - Mac Pro https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/672388/ Sandy Bridge thread
or
MBP Sandy bridge thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/732062/
started back in June 2009.
March 21 2009 - Mac Pro https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/672388/ Sandy Bridge thread
or
MBP Sandy bridge thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/732062/
started back in June 2009.
Sure they're able to improve on Arrandale.
Arrandale has power consumption issues at the moment, and Intel is working on solving them.
I think we will get quad-core laptops from Apple before the end of the year.
I knew this thread was going to open up sooner or later (because the original Arrandale thread opened up before the June 2009 refresh).
Another long waiting game starts...
Another long waiting game starts...
This gets me. Asus' are supposed to the most reliable PC laptops. Heck, they even mfg. Apple's machines. But are all butt-ugly and cheap looking like Best-buy-generic-ugly. What gives.
But it's all moot. I am just sick and tired of Windows screwing up my life. Lol.
+1 waiting for sandy bridge
My Core Duo Macbook can last till next August, definitely. I expect the Arrandales to be released in April, followed by the next revision 8 months later in December/January, then Sandy Bridge in August to coincide with 10.7 Lynx
like most, I'm after:
affordable SSD
quad core CPU
USB 3
possible light-peak
blu-ray support (this is really more of a software issue as I intend to use an external drive with a second SSD in the ODD slot :-D:-D)
My Core Duo Macbook can last till next August, definitely. I expect the Arrandales to be released in April, followed by the next revision 8 months later in December/January, then Sandy Bridge in August to coincide with 10.7 Lynx
like most, I'm after:
affordable SSD
quad core CPU
USB 3
possible light-peak
blu-ray support (this is really more of a software issue as I intend to use an external drive with a second SSD in the ODD slot :-D:-D)
*sigh*
I'm getting the 15" i7 anyways... This is at least a year away and we'll all go insane waiting for the 'next great evolution of something' and one word email responses from Unkie Steve...
I read on the unofficial Arrandale thread ages ago something that always rings true in my mind. Someone said - if you need to a new computer, GET a new computer. Updates are always going to happen, so obviously the next update will be an improvement from the last, but you'll just be waiting and waiting if you can't settle and be happy that you updated when you needed to.
As a designer, I've kept my Powerbook G4 as my main computer - editing video & sound, web designing-ing-ing, Photoshop'ing to my heart's content, and even running Ableton Live etc - for 5/6 YEARS, and I'm only updating because it is dying and I need a new one. I've gone crazy waiting for an i7, thinking it'd be a lot sooner and seeing no point in a C2D if iX were on their way, but I'll be veeeery happy when it arrives and speeds up my work times. I won't be stressing that I should've waited ANOTHER year.
If the Sandy Bridge or MEGATASTIC i100,000 comes out in 12 months time, and it has USB 3.0 or Lightbridge or something that I feel I really need to have to make life easier/better, then I'll consider selling the i7 and updating. But trawling the net for rumours and spurious information for another 12 months doesn't sound like fun to my brain anymore.
*Oh, and BluRay? Please... Who gives a s***? I got talking to head of Sony's home division for the UK about three weeks ago and he was raving about 3D DVD players and TVs etc (I told him I thought it was gimmicky... Which didn't go down well), so again - BLAURay is just another format that will be replaced soon. If Apple did put one in the MacBook Pro, you'd only have people bitching at the cost mark-up anyway. My thought is that Apple should junk having any drive and start using the space for a smaller SDD for the main OS etc... Or a Pico Projector, or ANYTHING useful.
I'm getting the 15" i7 anyways... This is at least a year away and we'll all go insane waiting for the 'next great evolution of something' and one word email responses from Unkie Steve...
I read on the unofficial Arrandale thread ages ago something that always rings true in my mind. Someone said - if you need to a new computer, GET a new computer. Updates are always going to happen, so obviously the next update will be an improvement from the last, but you'll just be waiting and waiting if you can't settle and be happy that you updated when you needed to.
As a designer, I've kept my Powerbook G4 as my main computer - editing video & sound, web designing-ing-ing, Photoshop'ing to my heart's content, and even running Ableton Live etc - for 5/6 YEARS, and I'm only updating because it is dying and I need a new one. I've gone crazy waiting for an i7, thinking it'd be a lot sooner and seeing no point in a C2D if iX were on their way, but I'll be veeeery happy when it arrives and speeds up my work times. I won't be stressing that I should've waited ANOTHER year.
If the Sandy Bridge or MEGATASTIC i100,000 comes out in 12 months time, and it has USB 3.0 or Lightbridge or something that I feel I really need to have to make life easier/better, then I'll consider selling the i7 and updating. But trawling the net for rumours and spurious information for another 12 months doesn't sound like fun to my brain anymore.
*Oh, and BluRay? Please... Who gives a s***? I got talking to head of Sony's home division for the UK about three weeks ago and he was raving about 3D DVD players and TVs etc (I told him I thought it was gimmicky... Which didn't go down well
), so again - BLAURay is just another format that will be replaced soon. If Apple did put one in the MacBook Pro, you'd only have people bitching at the cost mark-up anyway. My thought is that Apple should junk having any drive and start using the space for a smaller SDD for the main OS etc... Or a Pico Projector, or ANYTHING useful.Come on guys, we've just survived from waiting for Arrandale thread. Don't do it to yourselves. Relax, take it easy...
By the time Sandy Bridge comes out mbps won't exist anymore.
There will only be iPad pros.
Intel executives announce production timetable for "Sandy Bridge" microprocessor
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362601,00.asp
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362601,00.asp
This is like the 1st Arrandale thread with people posting actual information! This might be worth waiting for, esp if it coincides with addition of USB3 into Intel's chipsets (Intel hasn't said when in 2011 they plan to include it). And hey, look on the bright side - since Apple took so long to update to Arrandale, Sandy Bridge is less than a year away.
Copied and pasted from one of the other threads (that got locked):
Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) for 2x peak FLOPS compared to before (256-bit vs. 128-bit)
2-core top-end mobile Sandy Bridge projected to be 20% faster than top-end Arrandale
3 MB L3 for 2-core variant, 6 MB L3 for 4-core variant. That means 25% less cache compared to Nehalem/Westmere for the same number of cores, but cache latency for all three levels has dropped, from 4/10-11/40-50 cycles (I think) to 3/9/25.
Integrated GPU with 6 or 12 execution units (GMA X3100 has 8 and GMA HD has 12), 2x performance of GMA HD (also: desktop quad-core will have a 1.0-1.4 GHz GPU, up from Clarkdale's 533-900 MHz)
I'm expecting a Yonah » Merom type performance improvement with Sandy Bridge. Judging by 4-core Sandy Bridge-MB TDP, it looks like if we don't see Clarksfield in the upcoming MacBook Pros, chances are the 2011 update won't either.
Also, late 2010 production but early 2011 release.
Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) for 2x peak FLOPS compared to before (256-bit vs. 128-bit)
2-core top-end mobile Sandy Bridge projected to be 20% faster than top-end Arrandale
3 MB L3 for 2-core variant, 6 MB L3 for 4-core variant. That means 25% less cache compared to Nehalem/Westmere for the same number of cores, but cache latency for all three levels has dropped, from 4/10-11/40-50 cycles (I think) to 3/9/25.
Integrated GPU with 6 or 12 execution units (GMA X3100 has 8 and GMA HD has 12), 2x performance of GMA HD (also: desktop quad-core will have a 1.0-1.4 GHz GPU, up from Clarkdale's 533-900 MHz)
I'm expecting a Yonah » Merom type performance improvement with Sandy Bridge. Judging by 4-core Sandy Bridge-MB TDP, it looks like if we don't see Clarksfield in the upcoming MacBook Pros, chances are the 2011 update won't either.
Also, late 2010 production but early 2011 release.
That's 2012 now.
Regarding USB3 in Intel chipsets.
Wow, I missed that... Bit-tech technically lists it as a rumor rather than news, but that's really big. I wonder if Apple will really wait until 2012 to have USB3 on their computers.
Wow, I missed that... Bit-tech technically lists it as a rumor rather than news, but that's really big. I wonder if Apple will really wait until 2012 to have USB3 on their computers.
I think the current macbook pros are just an interim solution until "Sandy Bridge" comes out(, which reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEyKFkkcHAc every time I hear the name). Even Apple is not as pleased with the current update as you might think and they just promote it as "minor" update.
In future,they even might be forced to redesign their macbook pro line so that they can implement the new cpus. I, for my part, will be waiting till June/September next year at the most, because they really ****ed up with the 13" mb P R O (no high res and cpu upgrade whatever the reason for this might be and as a customer I have the right to not give a sh*t). Until then my mid 2007 15" 2.4 C2D mbp is sufficient enough.
In future,they even might be forced to redesign their macbook pro line so that they can implement the new cpus. I, for my part, will be waiting till June/September next year at the most, because they really ****ed up with the 13" mb P R O (no high res and cpu upgrade whatever the reason for this might be and as a customer I have the right to not give a sh*t). Until then my mid 2007 15" 2.4 C2D mbp is sufficient enough.
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