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The "Waiting for Nehalem Mac Pros" thread
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what id like to see
2x 2.93 GHz Gainestown - 1x 2.67 GHz / 2x 2.67/2.93/3.2 GHz BTO
4.8 GT/s QuickPath - 4.8/4.8/6.4 GT/s QuickPath BTO (tied with CPU)
2/3 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM - 3/6/12/24/48 GB BTO
320 GB 7200 RPM HDD - 320/500/750/1000/1500 GB BTO (1~4)
512 MB ATI Radeon HD 4850 /1 GB HD 4870 / 1GB HD 4870x2 Quadro FX BTO
16x DVD+R DL - DVD+R DL (1~2) (I just don't see Blu-ray coming )
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$2799
30inch Display with HDMI,LED,Isight,Display Port!
what id like to see
2x 2.93 GHz Gainestown - 1x 2.67 GHz / 2x 2.67/2.93/3.2 GHz BTO
4.8 GT/s QuickPath - 4.8/4.8/6.4 GT/s QuickPath BTO (tied with CPU)
2/3 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM - 3/6/12/24/48 GB BTO
320 GB 7200 RPM HDD - 320/500/750/1000/1500 GB BTO (1~4)
512 MB ATI Radeon HD 4850 /1 GB HD 4870 / 1GB HD 4870x2 Quadro FX BTO
16x DVD+R DL - DVD+R DL (1~2) (I just don't see Blu-ray coming )
& to Support Apple Remote
$2799
30inch Display with HDMI,LED,Isight,Display Port!
Intel is going to be releasing more information on the 17th, which will hopefully include pricing for more SKU's like last year.
Since Apple WILL adopt the Larrabee GPU, I'd pick one of those up along with Snow Leopard ;p
Also I had no idea that triple channel memory required 3 sticks. Dual channel does not require 2 sticks (Although there are performance gains if you use a matched pair for dual channel support. Also remember that we're not talking about FB-DIMMs anymore, which DID require pairs for its' own reasons.
Since Apple WILL adopt the Larrabee GPU, I'd pick one of those up along with Snow Leopard ;p
Also I had no idea that triple channel memory required 3 sticks. Dual channel does not require 2 sticks (Although there are performance gains if you use a matched pair for dual channel support. Also remember that we're not talking about FB-DIMMs anymore, which DID require pairs for its' own reasons.
MORE INFORMATION 
The server variant is called Nehalem-EP, which we already knew! YAY.
Nehalem will self-overclock. I can't do this article justice, you'll have to read it yourself.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Turbo-Mode-Intel,6193.html
The server variant is called Nehalem-EP, which we already knew! YAY.
Nehalem will self-overclock. I can't do this article justice, you'll have to read it yourself.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Turbo-Mode-Intel,6193.html
MORE INFORMATION
The server variant is called Nehalem-EX, which we already knew! YAY.
Nehalem will self-overclock. I can't do this article justice, you'll have to read it yourself.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Turbo-Mode-Intel,6193.html
I'd actually forgotten about this feature until Leo Laporte clumsily tried to explain it on this weeks TWiT as it is never discussed. The article makes it seem as if the feature only works when running a single thread, which from what I remember isn't the case. I believe it can work on multiple threads (hyperthreading) and multiple cores (maybe just 1 and 2).
Tom's Hardware said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gelsinger-pat-intel-idf-nehalem,6196.html
The processor will shut down cores and overclock the rest, but stay within the set TDP level, which means that up to 3 cores could OC themselves at a time. By the sound of it though I wouldn't expect it to do that a whole lot (with 3 cores, 2 and 1 seem more obvious). Also, it was announced that desktop AND SERVER versions of Core i7 will be shipping in Q4, which we already assumed, but never knew for sure until now.
The way I read HardOCP coverage, it looks like i7 core and only the super high end server chips will come out in 2008, the medium server chips and desktop chips come out 2H-2009.
That would mean next gen Mac Pro late 2009!!!! That makes my Mac Pro buying decision last week very very smart.
That would mean next gen Mac Pro late 2009!!!! That makes my Mac Pro buying decision last week very very smart.
I assume you mean this part:
Apple will use Nehalem-EP (Gainstown) in the Mac Pro. Nehalem-EX is Beckton and is intended for servers using more than two processors.
Are you telling us he's not quite as smart as he thought he was!
Destroyed. Good work.
Buying now doesn't make you dumb because whenever I get this thing mine will be faster. Buying now makes you smarter because you're enjoying your new computer and I'm using a computer that can't play youtube, and will be doing so for the next 5 months. It's all a matter of perspective
Buying now does make you dumb, unless you need it now. But if you need it now, why even look at what the future has in store (this thread)?
Nehalem will rock. I'm getting mine on release day. With 16 logical cores, I think I'll start rendering fractals in the background, whilst generating pi to fill my terabytes of storage, and playing a HD movie on mute, and having iTunes slog away trying to play a random mixture of large, uncompressed audio files and the complex algorithms involved in highly compressed music, maybe with a Crysis demo in VMWare. Just because I can.
Maybe I'll just try Vista.
Nehalem will rock. I'm getting mine on release day. With 16 logical cores, I think I'll start rendering fractals in the background, whilst generating pi to fill my terabytes of storage, and playing a HD movie on mute, and having iTunes slog away trying to play a random mixture of large, uncompressed audio files and the complex algorithms involved in highly compressed music, maybe with a Crysis demo in VMWare. Just because I can.
Maybe I'll just try Vista.
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Buying now doesn't make you dumb because whenever I get this thing mine will be faster. Buying now makes you smarter because you're enjoying your new computer and I'm using a computer that can't play youtube, and will be doing so for the next 5 months. It's all a matter of perspective
Powermac G4 - 733Mhz - 768MB - 40GB - 10.4.11
You have some other problem other than having an old G4 733Mhz. I have an older G4 than you do and I don't have the problems you describe. I have a G4 466Mhz. I don't ever go to YouTube to play any videos, but I just went and played a 3:58 minute clip of some rock band and I didn't have any skipping etc.
I also don't have any problems with these programs you mentioned: iTunes, TextEdit, Preview, Word 2004.
I'm not saying I wouldn't benefit from having a new computer. In the past, I would usually buy a new computer every 3 to 4 years. My G4 is now 7.6 years old and still works great.
But you could do that easily now with the current 8 core mac pros minus the 6 month of wait. =D
I do all that stuff at the same time with several FF and Safari windows open, each program by itself is usable. And all things considered, it does work nicely. It's got a few bugs which are hardware related (Won't shut down, disk drive won't respond after 3 minutes or so of being on). It doesn't pay to buy upgrades for it anymore, as the computer itself is worth $200 tops. I've reinstalled software, used different versions of OSX, etc. The problems are software agnostic, and aren't a big enough deal to warrant a new computer immediately.
I got my mac pro yesterday. It's awesome.
Why wouldn't you wait till the core i7's? Even if you couldn't afford one of the new beasts the older beasts would surely drop in price.
Am I right?
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no seriously this is what I'm counting on and is the reason I'm holding off for now.
I am joining this thread beacuase its interesting... I shall not be upgrading my mac pro for another two-three years though (can't wait to see what they look like then!).
This is the reason I switched - fed up with upgrading my PC every five minutes. My Mac Pro will last for years to come (I mean really 8 Xeons with 16GB ram - I cannot see how Ill need more power for a while - she edits vids/photos with easy and everything else is childs-play for her).
maybe by the time I upgrade the next gen intels will be powering the Pro series and I'll have 64 logical CPU's etc..... lol
This is the reason I switched - fed up with upgrading my PC every five minutes. My Mac Pro will last for years to come (I mean really 8 Xeons with 16GB ram - I cannot see how Ill need more power for a while - she edits vids/photos with easy and everything else is childs-play for her).
maybe by the time I upgrade the next gen intels will be powering the Pro series and I'll have 64 logical CPU's etc..... lol
You joke, but the next big breakthrough in processors is lasers/light. It's extremely tough to line up the "highways" so the light goes where it's supposed to go, but Intel is working on it, and IBM got a massive grant from the government a while back for it too.
Don't get too excited though, it's not coming out any time soon as it's still very much in the R&D department.
Don't get too excited though, it's not coming out any time soon as it's still very much in the R&D department.
I'm waiting for the Nehalem Mac Pros too...
Apparently the Bloomsfield Core i7s will come out in November.
So we can expect the new Nehalem Mac Pros to come out soon. (consider how the Core 2 Quad Q9450 came out 2 months after the debut of the Penryn Mac Pros).
Apparently the Bloomsfield Core i7s will come out in November.
So we can expect the new Nehalem Mac Pros to come out soon. (consider how the Core 2 Quad Q9450 came out 2 months after the debut of the Penryn Mac Pros).
It doesn't work that way. Search around, you'll find everything we know. Gainstown-DP is the successor to the current 5400 series chipset that the Mac Pro currently uses. Available in October or so, but just like last year Apple won't jump on it until after Christmas.
hi, i'm, as you waiting for nehalem to buy a MP.
i have a PM 2x1,8ghz, and i want a new mac, but i was wondering: won't there be REV A issues on the nehalem mac pros, like on all rev A macs? so shouldn't i buy a Harpertown, wich is known and has no problems? or is nehalem not considered as a rev a, cause it's jut an major upgrade of a product that already exist.
i have a PM 2x1,8ghz, and i want a new mac, but i was wondering: won't there be REV A issues on the nehalem mac pros, like on all rev A macs? so shouldn't i buy a Harpertown, wich is known and has no problems? or is nehalem not considered as a rev a, cause it's jut an major upgrade of a product that already exist.