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hi, i'm, as you waiting for nehalem to buy a MP.
i have a PM 2x1,8ghz, and i want a new mac, but i was wondering: won't there be REV A issues on the nehalem mac pros, like on all rev A macs? so shouldn't i buy a Harpertown, wich is known and has no problems? or is nehalem not considered as a rev a, cause it's jut an major upgrade of a product that already exist.

Some people will consider it Rev A some won't. Personally I'd wait unless you need more power now. I wouldn't worry about it being a Rev A product, and I wouldn't be suprised to find the failure rates of Mac Pros being shipped today similar to the Nehalem ones.
 
That Rumour Or Your Idea?

Need it to Power 3 24inch IPS Panels.. want 1 Good card At Least For Games :D
 
No it doesn't work like that. It isn't just a pricing issue. It is a cooling and power consumption issue.
I would think that cost alone would make the HD3870 the most likely choice for a base model. That, and they know it already works in a current model. :p
 
Also the 3870 is a full size card and requires additional power (it isn't just powered from the PCI-E bus). Generally the base card is a half size card that only requires bus power (7300GT, 2600XT in the Mac Pro and 5200FX, 9600 and 6600 in the G5s).
 
Also the 3870 is a full size card and requires additional power (it isn't just powered from the PCI-E bus). Generally the base card is a half size card that only requires bus power (7300GT, 2600XT in the Mac Pro and 5200FX, 9600 and 6600 in the G5s).
Most of the available cards now seem to be of the full size variety. Apple would choose from something that already exists, works with a Mac, and is cheap. The XT2600 is just too old, and it may put buyers off if they see it in such a new system.

Keep in mind, PCIe power cables are dirt cheap in quantity. :p
 
I would think that cost alone would make the HD3870 the most likely choice for a base model. That, and they know it already works in a current model. :p

There are cheaper cards than the 3870 that are more than sufficient at handling 2D needs. There is no real need for them to offer more than the 2600XT other that it is dated.
 
If I decide not to get a high end iMac, I'll certainly be waiting for a Mac Pro update. New displays and BluRay wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
There are cheaper cards than the 3870 that are more than sufficient at handling 2D needs. There is no real need for them to offer more than the 2600XT other that it is dated.

I'd be willing to bet the default graphics card in the next Mac Pro is the HD4650 or 4670. The upgrade will be a GX280 (or a HD4870) and the top card will be some flavour of QuadroFX card as it is now.
 
Heck, no. What, you think Apple cares about us? The 280 uses too much power.

4870 (heck, I could see 4680 mid-range ATI) maybe.
I only say that because Apple has always offered cards from both ATI and Nvidia, so if the default is a HD4650 then the next one up will be NV. BUt yes, GX280 is probably too much, maybe a 9800GTX?
 
I'd be willing to bet the default graphics card in the next Mac Pro is the HD4650 or 4670. The upgrade will be a GX280 (or a HD4870) and the top card will be some flavour of QuadroFX card as it is now.

You have to remember that the Mac Pro has to be able to take 4 of the base card with any suggestion made. These look like they may be low powered enough, but you never know with Apple.
 
I'd be willing to bet the default graphics card in the next Mac Pro is the HD4650 or 4670.

Beat me to it! The basic models look to be half size cards that don't require extra power so that makes perfect sense.
 
The high end desktop Bloomfield parts will be shipping some time in November as expected.

The parts are:

Core i7 965 Extreme Edition @ 3.2Ghz, four cores, 8MB L2 cache, $999* (Presumably with an unlocked multiplier)
Core i7 940 @ 2.93Ghz, four cores, 8MB L2 cache, $562*
Core i7 920 @ 2.66Ghz, four cores, 8MB L2 cache, $284*

*Prices are in thousand unit trays as usual, they will be more expensive at retail.

Tom's Hardware said:
Sometime during November it is expected Intel will release its next-generation of processors under the branding Core i7. There are only three Core i7 processors expected in 2008 and they will target upper mainstream and performance users. The Core i7 965 XE will be an Extreme Edition processor running at 3.20 GHz, featuring an 8 MB cache and will be priced at $999. The Core i7 940 will run at 2.93 GHz, feature an 8 MB cache and cost $562. The most affordable Core i7 will be the 920, with a 2.66 GHz clock-speed, an 8 MB cache and a $284 price-tag. All three processors feature four-cores, a 130 W TDP and will offer a substantial performance increase over current Core 2 processors.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Roadmap-Prices,6379.html

Another tidbit to note, it sounds as if Intel will not be releasing any other Nehalem processors (Such as the Gainestown DP server/workstation chips) this year.
 
Another tidbit to note, it sounds as if Intel will not be releasing any other Nehalem processors (Such as the Gainestown DP server/workstation chips) this year.

I'm not sure what you base that on. Marketing and release notes for the different lines are kept seperate, so just because there is news about one and not another doesn't mean it is delayed or anything.
 
It seems incredibly unlikely that Intel would release the desktop version (Bloomfield) before the Xeon version. Thats where the profit margin is. Yes the Core i7 will be a premium desktop part and command high margins too, but it makes no sense to release it in preference to the Xeon parts. If there is a delay, then Bloomfield will be delayed as well.
 
I'm not sure what you base that on. Marketing and release notes for the different lines are kept seperate, so just because there is news about one and not another doesn't mean it is delayed or anything.

It seems incredibly unlikely that Intel would release the desktop version (Bloomfield) before the Xeon version. Thats where the profit margin is. Yes the Core i7 will be a premium desktop part and command high margins too, but it makes no sense to release it in preference to the Xeon parts. If there is a delay, then Bloomfield will be delayed as well.

According to Tom's anyway:

Tom's Hardware said:
There are only three Core i7 processors expected in 2008 and they will target upper mainstream and performance users.

Same article.
 
I'll probably buy a new machine this spring. I'm using a quad 2.66GHz Mac Pro + 30" cinema presently, so hopefully something in the rage of dual 3.2GHz 6-core processors will be available.

Do I need 12 cores? Absolutely not. Do I want it? Why not. I don't pay for the machine anyway (work does).

That, and dual 30" displays. :D
 
Wow, the Mac Pro is overpowered! I wish Apple can release a mid range tower for the everyday consumer!
 
I'll probably buy a new machine this spring. I'm using a quad 2.66GHz Mac Pro + 30" cinema presently, so hopefully something in the rage of dual 3.2GHz 6-core processors will be available.

Do I need 12 cores? Absolutely not. Do I want it? Why not. I don't pay for the machine anyway (work does).

That, and dual 30" displays. :D

Unfortunately you're only getting 8 physical cores which appear as 16 virtual cores. Sorry :p
 
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