The YaBoot Thread

[G4fanboy]

"Yaboot is a bootloader for PowerPC-based hardware running Linux, particularly New World ROM Macintosh systems. It is built to run within the Open Firmware layer common to most such systems instead of working as a Mac OS 9 program like its predecessor BootX." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaboot)

Installing Yaboot
https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/
https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_configure_yaboot.conf.3F

 

[z970]

The Debian Sid team is working as fast as they can to completely phase out Yaboot, a bootloader last touched eight years ago, in favor of GRUB, a far more powerful and actively maintained bootloader with sleek looks to boot (no pun intended), and is progressively getting hotter on the trail with each passing day.

If I may ask, what is the useful objective of this wiki?

 

[Project Alice]

The Debian Sid team is working as fast as they can to completely phase out Yaboot, a bootloader last touched eight years ago, in favor of GRUB, a far more powerful and actively maintained bootloader with sleek looks to boot (no pun intended), and is progressively getting hotter on the trail with each passing day.

If I may ask, what is the useful objective of this wiki?

I don't think grub has ever been supported on PPC, let alone PPC Macs. If it is, this is the first I've heard of it. I always thought it was either bootx for mac os, yaboot for literally anything else.

 

[G4fanboy]

The Debian Sid team is working as fast as they can to completely phase out Yaboot, a bootloader last touched eight years ago, in favor of GRUB, a far more powerful and actively maintained bootloader with sleek looks to boot (no pun intended), and is progressively getting hotter on the trail with each passing day.

If I may ask, what is the useful objective of this wiki?

Yaboot is the one we have now. I think the GRUB team will take even more time to build that for PowerPC.

Mac OS 9 users need to know everything about it to dual/triple boot a 9 a X and debian partition.

 

[vddrnnr]

Hi all,

I'm already using grub as are others in this forum.
Just look for the posts regarding Adelie or void Linux or search for the Adelie
Linux web page on google they have some how-tos about setting it up.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/adélie-linux-for-powerpc.2117886/

look in post #4

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/adelie-linux-boot-osx-from-grub.2148103/#post-26667385

Best regards,
voidRunner

 

[z970]

I don't think grub has ever been supported on PPC, let alone PPC Macs. If it is, this is the first I've heard of it. I always thought it was either bootx for mac os, yaboot for literally anything else.

Search for 'grub-ieee1275'.

 

[G4fanboy]

Not automatically.

Although you could argue it to be semi-automatic because there's a walkthrough detailing each step as easily to understand as possible.

For what it's worth, all the older installers I've tried install Yaboot flawlessly. So because of this reason and others, I've been trying to get the most out of the older releases, and one advantage to this is that nothing is constantly changing (and breaking), so everything can be refined, and reliably improved upon. And everything is documented, or at the very least, going to be.

The Debian Sid team is working as fast as they can to completely phase out Yaboot, a bootloader last touched eight years ago, in favor of GRUB, a far more powerful and actively maintained bootloader with sleek looks to boot (no pun intended), and is progressively getting hotter on the trail with each passing day.

If I may ask, what is the useful objective of this wiki?

The useful objetive of this post is to show us PowerPC users to deal with Yaboot until Grub is fixed.

 

[z970]

The useful objetive of this post is to show us PowerPC users to deal with Yaboot until Grub is fixed.

You know that's recent information. GRUB wasn't having problems at the time of that post.

What are we aiming to have the wikipost contain, besides a timeline?

 

[G4fanboy]

I would love to see how to call it from Open Firmware and how to use it in a Powerbook with Mac OS 9 and 3 Mac OS X.

Also if it is needed Apple Partition Map or MBR/GUID.

I think all the Yaboot stuff/concepts need to be very clear to make the average PowerPC MacOS user to have less fear of embracing any OS not made by Apple

 

[XaPHER]

I think GRUB2 once solid will be nice to have for distros. But yaboot is still fully functional, though old, sometimes irritating and quirky, and it's still another option for powerpc machines on linux. Multiple choices is something nice to have. (I lack any reason to move to GRUB, personally.)

The wikipost should have elements taken from yaboot's manpages to help one make a manual config and/or edit an automatically generated one. I like to change the framebuffer colors to something like green or purple

 

[z970]

I would love to see how to call it from Open Firmware and how to use it in a Powerbook with Mac OS 9 and 3 Mac OS X.

Also if it is needed Apple Partition Map or MBR/GUID.

I think all the Yaboot stuff/concepts need to be very clear to make the average PowerPC MacOS user to have less fear of embracing any OS not made by Apple

Maybe when I get time. - Unless somebody else would like to volunteer until then.

As for the clear concepts, I wholly agree. Basically my whole quest is making the hard, simple, then releasing all of it into public archives. I love that.

 

[z970]

Just had a thought. If you want to make a Yaboot thread, I think you should research and present all useful information on your own devices. One of the primary things the whole FS ecosystem teaches is self-reliance.

Second thought, I don't think Yaboot on its own is significant enough to warrant a whole thread. This is really something that could be a subset of The Linux Thread, because Yaboot, as a bootloader, most all the time just works. What would be most useful, is a wiki (inside the wiki) for parameters that must be added when graphical problems are encountered, and perhaps a sort of map for yaboot.conf, explaining what everything is, and what options you can change.

I'm just saying, it would be nice to have some help to make the hard, simple, if there is an interest. - Translation: Can you do that, please?

Third thought (notice), cleaned up unnecessary cruft.