The YaBoot Thread

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  1. G4fanboy, Apr 10, 2019
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    The Debian Sid team is working as fast as they can to completely phase out Yaboot, a bootloader last touched eight years ago, in favor of GRUB, a far more powerful and actively maintained bootloader with sleek looks to boot (no pun intended), and is progressively getting hotter on the trail with each passing day.

    If I may ask, what is the useful objective of this wiki?
     
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    I don't think grub has ever been supported on PPC, let alone PPC Macs. If it is, this is the first I've heard of it. I always thought it was either bootx for mac os, yaboot for literally anything else.
     
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    Yaboot is the one we have now. I think the GRUB team will take even more time to build that for PowerPC.

    Mac OS 9 users need to know everything about it to dual/triple boot a 9 a X and debian partition.
     
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    Search for 'grub-ieee1275'.
     
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    The useful objetive of this post is to show us PowerPC users to deal with Yaboot until Grub is fixed.
     
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    You know that's recent information. GRUB wasn't having problems at the time of that post.

    What are we aiming to have the wikipost contain, besides a timeline?
     
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    I would love to see how to call it from Open Firmware and how to use it in a Powerbook with Mac OS 9 and 3 Mac OS X.

    Also if it is needed Apple Partition Map or MBR/GUID.

    I think all the Yaboot stuff/concepts need to be very clear to make the average PowerPC MacOS user to have less fear of embracing any OS not made by Apple
     
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    I think GRUB2 once solid will be nice to have for distros. But yaboot is still fully functional, though old, sometimes irritating and quirky, and it's still another option for powerpc machines on linux. Multiple choices is something nice to have. (I lack any reason to move to GRUB, personally.)

    The wikipost should have elements taken from yaboot's manpages to help one make a manual config and/or edit an automatically generated one. I like to change the framebuffer colors to something like green or purple :D
     
  11. z970mp, Apr 22, 2019
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    Maybe when I get time. - Unless somebody else would like to volunteer until then. ;)

    As for the clear concepts, I wholly agree. Basically my whole quest is making the hard, simple, then releasing all of it into public archives. I love that.
     
  12. z970mp, Apr 22, 2019
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    Just had a thought. If you want to make a Yaboot thread, I think you should research and present all useful information on your own devices. One of the primary things the whole FS ecosystem teaches is self-reliance.

    Second thought, I don't think Yaboot on its own is significant enough to warrant a whole thread. This is really something that could be a subset of The Linux Thread, because Yaboot, as a bootloader, most all the time just works. What would be most useful, is a wiki (inside the wiki) for parameters that must be added when graphical problems are encountered, and perhaps a sort of map for yaboot.conf, explaining what everything is, and what options you can change.

    I'm just saying, it would be nice to have some help to make the hard, simple, if there is an interest. - Translation: Can you do that, please?

    Third thought (notice), cleaned up unnecessary cruft.
     
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