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Once again, this is the attitude that drives customers away from Apple.

9 million iPhones were just sold over the weekend. All with lightning connectors. Best selling iPhone launch in history.

They aren't being driven away. They're flocking in droves. You sir, are simply incorrect.
 
If they got rid of the audio jack, and included Bluetooth headphones (like they included a lightning cable) I would be perfectly fine with it. I actually wouldn't even care if they didn't. I have my own Bluetooth headphones. In reality, you are correct, it is old technology, and realistically it will be the next port to go in all likelihood. I simply cannot wait for your post when that happens lol. This has entertained me for a day and a half now.
 
Get an 30pin-lightning adapter genius and all your problems will be solved. Its not that big of a deal and for $39 all your "$3000" worth of 30-pin accessories will be relevant again.

Its called tech progress. I'm pretty pissed because USB was invented. Do you know how many serial and parallel accessories i had from all my win 95 and DOS computers? Gosh darnit.

The main reason for lightning was so they could make the phone thinner. But whatever, screw technology progress in favor of making sure everyones 10 year old accessories remain compatible.

Have fun using your Galaxy S4. Nobody here is going to miss you.

This just brought back many fond memories. Thanks for that!
 
After reading a few sentences, I had to stop and look at the date of the post to see if it was from September 2012 because there's no way someone logical would be making this post today :rolleyes:
No, it's 2013, a year later, can you believe it?

We need to get that serial connector back...I mean, it had more connector pins, it was bigger and sturdier, you could lock it in place, secure it with those screws, now all we have is this freakin adapter:
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You're right they didn't promise anything, but then again, it's their own funeral. Look at the drop in profits and market share they are experiencing.

Their quarterly reports sure don't reflect a drop in profits. And their sales are up. 9 million lightning connector devices sold this weekend. That's a fair bit of disagreeing with your opinion going on.

The Android and Windows camps are loving it; they are constantly going after all the areas Apple is falling short on, and just taking in defector after defector.

Microsoft make about $850 million on the so called iPad killer Suface tablets. And wrote off $900 million in unsold product.

LAUSD, the second biggest school district in the US decided to buy iPads at twice the cost because they felt the other choices weren't up to the quality they desired.

Several airlines are using iPads specifically in their cockpits and for in flight entertainment

Yeah, they are losing sales.

. Many have already left Apple as customers.

Do you have numbers to back that up. Or are you just assuming cause you are pissed so is the rest of the world.

and find engineers who understand that catering to customers' needs and desires is the most important thing.

Please leave Apple. Never buy another apple product again and stop posting anything on any sites related to Apple. You will feel much better for it. And you can use that time to start your own company and do things 'right'. I'm sure you will be a huge success and Apple will burn in the wake of it. I bet you win a Nobel Prize for showing the world real innovation and giving every customer exactly what they want. You might even cure cancer and poverty and bring about true world peace.
 
I didn't say it was an evil conspiracy ... more like a business blunder that is costing Apple and its shareholders lots of profits, angering customers and driving them away, etc.

9 million phones purchased during this weekends launch despite the state of the whole MFI accessory issue.

Sounds like a lot of folks don't actually give a gold poop about the issue.
 
If you're still running everything via cords, you should really look at other options. I had a $100 car mount with a 30-pin dock. Knowing that it wouldn't work with the 5S due to the port and height, I went shopping. Found an adjustable dock that doesn't bind you to any strict size or cable, and found a Bluetooth adapter for my line out jack. It's also better because I'm not forced to charge my phone every time I want to use the dock/holder.

Eventually you have to buy new accessories with technology. People complained a bit as floppy drives disappeared from notebooks until better stuff evolved. Bluetooth allows a lot more multi platform support, which is why it's growing.

Can you tell me more about your set up? I would love to do the same thing.
 
How would you feel if your BMW steering wheel could no longer advance to the next song, or answer the phone? You might feel like Apple's stock should go down.

Look at the date the stock started falling from its peak: September 21, 2012. The exact date that people who ordered their phones online would have started receiving them.

One lesson in life is not to tick off the wrong people.

Nope, I'd feel like my car would need updating. Not the device which just got updated.
 
I didn't say it was an evil conspiracy ... more like a business blunder that is costing Apple and its shareholders lots of profits, angering customers and driving them away, etc.

Again, where is your hard data that shows this? For having such an angry user base, they sure seem to still be handing Apple fistfulls of cash... and this bears repeating... including you.

I wouldn't have said any of this a year ago, because Lightning had just come out, and nobody knew how it was going to do yet. For all we knew, by Christmas there'd be Lightning versions of all the major accessories. However a year's time affords us a little bit of perspective. Now we can see, even still, the number of Lightning-specific accessories is quite limited.

... for your specific, niche application. For the vast majority of individuals however, their universe is quite different from yours, and the number of accessories that are lightning interface compatible is actually quite plentiful.


It doesn't look good honestly. I'm just making an observation.

You're perfectly entitled to that observation, however it seems self-evident that outside of your extremely limited paradigm, that observation happens to be incorrect.

Apple really wants to force the issue of Lightning, just like it wants to force the issue of Thunderbolt with the new Pro.

Straw man argument, and not a very good one as straw men go. Thunderbolt is not an Apple-specific interface. It's a cross-platform standard. There's a growing list of laptops, desktops, motherboards, storage devices and other peripherals that support the interface, of which Apple is very much in the minority on the list.

So, we can toss this out as a valid comparison. Apple may have been the first to implement Thunderbolt, and even that could be debated, but they most definitely are not the last.


Maybe this was a calculated move and Apple thought this change in connectors had to be made eventually, and it may hurt for a couple of years, but after that it would be fine. It's not going to have killed Apple, and now they can make things that are thinner. Because y'know, thinness is the most important thing evar!

Thinness is a good thing, but so is abstraction of the interface. It's arguably possible to add connectors to the interface without forcing the hardware to have a chip on board to handle outputs to that new interface. So, not only is it thinner, but people who would never use a VGA video out won't have to have larger, heavier, possibly more expensive device in order to have the chip on board. Same goes for HDMI, or some other application that hasn't been thought of yet, but for which the interface can be programmed through software, and made to work through external hardware.


No I'm coming out with a phone that will require me to take an adapter everywhere, or, not upgrade my phone, which is ridiculous.

Fortunately, you don't have to. You can return your phone, and get a refund. You can continue using your old phone. Or you can do what you should be doing if you object this strongly to what Apple has done, and give your money to another phone manufacturer.

I didn't get on board with Apple so I could get stuck on an old phone because they refuse to make new devices with the standard port they themselves invented!

Really? Are you truly missing the irony in that statement? You're composing a manifesto about how Apple shouldn't ditch a connector simply because it's old, and yet you're having a stompy fit because you don't want to use an "old" model of phone?

I'm done. There's no reasoning with you, and it's evident that there will be no satisfactory solution for you. Best of luck!
 
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If they got rid of the audio jack, and included Bluetooth headphones (like they included a lightning cable) I would be perfectly fine with it. I actually wouldn't even care if they didn't. I have my own Bluetooth headphones. In reality, you are correct, it is old technology, and realistically it will be the next port to go in all likelihood. I simply cannot wait for your post when that happens lol. This has entertained me for a day and a half now.

If they got rid of the audio jack, but provided a way for their stock headphones to work with the phone, I would be fine with it.

EDIT: oh you said that already; sorry didn't read properly heh
 
Why should Apple stick with old technology. Technology grows at a breakneck speed, always has and always will. Also, this is a year old subject. I realize it's new to you, but you won't get much support because it's an old topic. Also, the lightning port is much better. It's smaller, there's no pins to break and finally you can put the cable in either way and it works. None of this crap where you have to put it in right side up and perfect
 
If they got rid of the audio jack, but provided a way for their stock headphones to work with the phone, I would be fine with it.

EDIT: oh you said that already; sorry didn't read properly heh

I'm actually with you on that one. It seems now that the audio jack is the only thing stopping the iPhone from getting any thinner, so I would totally support a lightning adapter to 3.5mm audio jack if it were possible. Having the audio pass through the lightning cable would be nice too. Also, bluetooth headsets are very affordable right now so there are plenty of other alternatives. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple one day decided to make the stock headphones bluetooth. I mean all Mac models now come standard with bluetooth keyboard and mouse, so I think it's time to move to the i Devices too.
 
No they should make it because they would retain more customers and sell more phones. Just because I seem to be the only one who cares enough to say so, doesn't mean I'm the only one who feels this way.

So they would have sold 10 Million phones instead of 9 if it still had the 30 pin. Is that what you are saying?
 
All introduced in the last 18 months:
$299 RØDE iXY mic (mounts onto 4S directly)
$999 Mackie DL1608 Mixer (iPad 3 mounts directly inside)
$99, $149 Line6 MobileKeys 25 and 32
$69 iRig MIDI Adapter (mounts onto 4S directly)
$229 Behringer iStudio iS202 (doesn't work with Lightning iPad 4)
(Behringer seemed to cancel their higher end one after Lightning was announced)

Guess what...all those things still work on the 4S and the ipad3. What is the problem.

I'll tell you what. You pay for a legit survey that shows this "huge loss in profits" that you mention over and over and then we can talk. Until then, you are just making stuff up because you have no facts to back up your statements. I would argue that Apple is making more profit selling extra lightning cables and adapters at a huge markup.

Try this one. Apple is making a huge mistake by allowing customers to use their finger for their ipads and iphones. They are losing out on so much profit by not requiring a stylus. I guarantee you they are losing lots of customers and profits because of that decision.
 
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