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There should be a 30-pin iPhone 5S.
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OP: I find it difficult to take you seriously after your last post. You are a year too late for your argument. I have already written this and a little more, but, if you can stop freaking out for a second, accept the fact that no one can do things the way you want, for it is unreasonable, perhaps you should either go back to your 4S or find solutions. I have decided to post just in case you calm down and start looking for solutions. ...
Lightning is more advanced in that it eliminated pinouts on the 30-pin that were not being used, does not have to have locks that break on it, the cord will come out if tripped on so that the wire doesn't get pulled apart (lasts longer), can be connected either way, it is a lot smaller, thus they can make the devices that connect to it smaller.
Most newer car stereos have a USB plug, which you can still hook up to, and it works fine (this was my case, last year, when I got my iPhone 5). Many have bluetooth, which you can use for wireless audio streaming.
If you get a car charge adapter that has a USB port and no cable, you can use your lightning cable with it. Same goes with many other things.
Here are some possible solutions you may not have thought of:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H...car-charger-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H...car-charger-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD824ZM/A/lightning-to-30-pin-adapter-02-m?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MF030ZM/A/iphone-5s-dock?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/HB254ZM/A/incase-mini-car-charger-with-lightning-cable?fnode=48
Apple now has a double-length lightning cable: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD819ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable-2-m?fnode=45
Lightning is more advanced in that it eliminated pinouts on the 30-pin that were not being used, does not have to have locks that break on it, the cord will come out if tripped on so that the wire doesn't get pulled apart (lasts longer), can be connected either way, it is a lot smaller, thus they can make the devices that connect to it smaller.
Most newer car stereos have a USB plug, which you can still hook up to, and it works fine (this was my case, last year, when I got my iPhone 5). Many have bluetooth, which you can use for wireless audio streaming.
If you get a car charge adapter that has a USB port and no cable, you can use your lightning cable with it. Same goes with many other things.
Here are some possible solutions you may not have thought of:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H...car-charger-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H...car-charger-for-ipad-iphone-and-ipod?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD824ZM/A/lightning-to-30-pin-adapter-02-m?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MF030ZM/A/iphone-5s-dock?fnode=48
http://store.apple.com/us/product/HB254ZM/A/incase-mini-car-charger-with-lightning-cable?fnode=48
Apple now has a double-length lightning cable: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD819ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable-2-m?fnode=45
Have you heard of AirPlay? That's how to stream video without a cable of any kind.
OMG, get over yourself. You are a year too late for this crap! Apple introduced lightning devices A YEAR AGO! When Apple came out with the iMac, you couldn't connect your old mouse or keyboard to it, OMG, they should have kept the old connectors too!
TECHNOLOGY CHANGES
DEAL WITH IT
Can you provide some evidence that the lightning adapter is "considerably more fragile"? Just from the static analysis of the two adapters, one is basically gold contacts on a solid piece of steel, and the other is formed sheet metal with a bunch of little internal bits.
Oh and BTW, the 0.2 m adapter works great with my 2008 VW in-car iPod adapter which was originally designed pre-iPhone, adapted using the cablejive stuff, THEN further adapted with the lightning adapter.
So I get full steering wheel control, sound and charge. Full functionality.
So I'm pretty happy here. The only way it could be better is if the adapter was free. Ok so I'm out $30 oh noooo
So I get full steering wheel control, sound and charge. Full functionality.
So I'm pretty happy here. The only way it could be better is if the adapter was free. Ok so I'm out $30 oh noooo
It wouldn't be so bad if the cables were more durable. I broke two cables for my car plug (which really gets roughed around more than a desk cable).
Ironically my 'cheap' Chinese cable has lasted longer than the Apple originals. I can only hope they still work when my new phone gets here.
Ironically my 'cheap' Chinese cable has lasted longer than the Apple originals. I can only hope they still work when my new phone gets here.
Not only that, my SD card reader won't read 5¼ floppies. How useless can you get?
I love the lightning connector. I don't fool around with docking my phone or plugging it into anything. I could care less about all that MP3 crap. I play Pandora in the mancave with the stereo plugged into the headphone jack. I like the fact that the plug doesn't need to be flipped a certain way. It only makes sense to me. Car keys have been like that for like 20 years.
take it back for a replacement. Covered under applecare+. I replaced 3 headphones that way.
You seem to know a bit about this fiasco. Let me ask you, why do you think Apple is doing that? Who at Apple is responsible for this? Why is it being allowed to happen?
Obviously there are many people on this thread who think that Apple can simply do no wrong, and Lightning must represent a technological advance simply because it's new. It seems self-evident that because 30-pin was old, it should go away. Well, frankly, I'd rather have a thicker phone with better battery life and 30-pin. I'd even pay extra for it, since I'll have to pay extra for stupid adapters and cables now anyway.
There are some things like XLR mic cables and MIDI cables that have been around for decades, and will continue to be around for decades to come, because like wheels, screws, nails, bolts, and other standard things, there is nothing wrong with them. Or if there is something wrong, it's not wrong enough to warrant a change in the common standard.
30-pin had become a widely-supported standard in use by legions of hardware developers all paying Apple to make products for it. That was a HUGE asset. But it sounds to me like Apple has compromised this asset and it is costing them.
In my opinion, any advantages of Lightning would have to be equally HUGE in order to justify sacrificing the 30-pin market, burning third-party MFI hardware makers, rendering obsolete many accessories owned by users, upsetting many customers by selling over-priced adapters, etc.
I would also not be surprised if the sales of iPhone accessories dropped significantly as a result of this. How many people who own Lightning-based devices are willing to buy accessories for it that are not native to the Lightning port? Frankly if I had iPad 4 and iPhone 5, I simply would never have purchased any of the 30-pin-based accessories that I currently own. Problem is, NONE of the accessories I currently own are available in a Lightning-based version!
Line 6 Mobilekeys: Comes with a "locking" type 30-pin connector (so it does not come unplugged during performance!). Apple's site says it requires a Lightning to 30-pin adapter, but confusingly it does not list iPad 4, mini, or iPhone 5/5C/5S as being compatible -- and neither does Line6's site (however user comments suggest the Lightning adapter works with it). It's not available in Lightning-native version.
iRig MIDI: Requires Lightning to 30-pin adapter. Not available in Lightning-native version. Physically connects to the phone and is designed to "hang off" the end of your phone. Essentially this makes it not usable as intended with the 0.2m lightning cable. With the Lightning adapter you now have two adapters hanging off the end of your phone and you must remove your phone's case. Seems very likely to come apart during performance.
I doubt these two products have sold as many units as they would have, if iPhone 5 had kept the 30-pin adapter. Many people simply would not buy it, if it meant they also had to buy a $29 or $39 accessory to "hopefully" make it work. Many people are probably still waiting for Lightning versions of these products, yet I wonder if the manufacturers are planning to make Lightning versions after this fiasco.
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No they should make it because they would retain more customers and sell more phones. Just because I seem to be the only one who cares enough to say so, doesn't mean I'm the only one who feels this way.
Then you don't understand how the Lightning connector works.
With the 30 pin each pin could only do one job. If that pin was damaged you lose that function. Rather major issue if it was the pins for say syncing or charging.
With a Lightning connector the pins can do any task and are assigned as needed. So one pin gets damaged the rest pick up the slack.
And if that kind of innovation is a problem for you because you don't like that Apple never promised to keep things the same so you don't have to buy new accessories then perhaps you need to consider leaving Apple as a customer.
I'm not freaking out; and I'm perfectly calm. Please don't accuse me of acting insensibly. I was under contract with AT&T until the 5S came out, so I did not personally experience this mess until now. The fact that there are still so few Lightning-native devices an entire year after it came out ought to demonstrate something.
The locking mechanism on 30-pin is a huge advantage for people like me. I don't want it to be able to come unplugged. The cords aren't dangling across the floor where they can get tripped on. They are connecting my iPhone to my keyboard and during a performance I need a snug connection. I've never once had a 30-pin cable become damaged.
When they designed the locking mechanism on the 30-pin cable, there was a reason for that design. Why second-guess that reason as no longer being valid?
30-pin is actually more durable because it's a wider, sturdier connector. It's capable of physically supporting a dongle on the end of your phone. Many devices were designed that way.
I don't personally care about car stereos etc. I use Airplay at home and I use the headphone jack in my car. I was referring earlier to the loss of iPod Out that made some stereos not work with the Lightning to 30-pin adapter. It did not affect me personally though.
LOL, ok. How do I know if any of these even work with my Apple Leather Case? The Apple one doesn't.
We had the 30-pin adapter for what 10ish years?
Apple acknowledged when they introduced the new connector it was going to affect a lot of people and accessories, they also pointed out they intend to stick with this one for a long time trying to foreword design as much as possible.
I'm sorry some of your stuff isn't compatible but no one forced you to get a new phone.
Apple acknowledged when they introduced the new connector it was going to affect a lot of people and accessories, they also pointed out they intend to stick with this one for a long time trying to foreword design as much as possible.
I'm sorry some of your stuff isn't compatible but no one forced you to get a new phone.
yep. That need to transition is why I find it so odd that they kept the 4S and didn't make the 'free' phone an 8GB 5C.
How do you charge it if you don't plug it into anything?
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Put fourth the effort and contact the manufactures and ask them.
I mean to use it as a clock radio or as an MP3 player or any of that crap. I ain't got no time fo dat! LOL
OP: This is what you sound like.... What did you do with all your 8-tracks?
As has already been stated, no one forced you to buy the new iPhone with the lightning connector that has been around for a year now...you've had a full year to figure out what to do with your equipment once you upgraded.
You laugh at people trying to offer solutions, you ridicule anyone that says the new is better, but you don't want solutions, you don't listen to anyone, you want your old connector back. Well, it will never happen, so get over it and try to find solutions, or go back to your 4S with the amazing 30-pin connector.
End Of Line.
You have an adaptor so problem solved?
The idea of switching to lightning means any new accessories will support that so over time you will have no 30 pin accessories.
The idea of switching to lightning means any new accessories will support that so over time you will have no 30 pin accessories.
Technically, you could hook it up to a computer. I don't think it would be impossible to make it work through airprint either. A quick google suggests that airprint works with CUPS printers setup on a computer, so yeah.
Why is it sturdier? The 30 pin has a number of easily breakable internal components. So all you have is "its physically bigger" ?
Another interesting thing, the original iPods came with locking cables, then apple started shipping snap-in-snap-out connectors with the "locking" part removed. I wonder why that was?
Considering Apple sold 9 million iPhones last weekend, I don't see them going back. https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/2...-5c-sales-top-nine-million-in-launch-weekend/