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>You said the Motorola did well with the G4,

And they did. Whether or not their foundries can cope is a completely
unrelated matter.



> and you said that the 7450 scaled reasonably. Which ofcourse it hasnt.

(isn't it odd that you can't dig up where I said that? maybe because I didn't?)

I never asserted that anywhere; no amount of smoke-blowing will change
that fact. However, I did explain multiple times the difference between
Motorola's foundries, which haven't been able to produce higher-frequency
G4s in volume, which is completely separate to the G4's design, which is
an elegant 32-bit load/store microprocessor. Why you can't tell the
difference between the two is astounding.



>Find the quotes yourself. Its an interesting quest of yours joey, finding
out your own ignorance.

I hardly think you've a leg to stand on. Do you remember the discussion of
the FX being able to use a 400 mhz FSB? And then me pointing you toward
articles at IBM's website which all specified 200 Mhz as the FSB
frequency? Care to explain your way around that one?



> you obviously havnt read your own threads before have you?

Oh dear, spikey, I wouldn't be saying that if I were you. Remember how you
called me "a f***ing canadian" when I had already said that I wasn't
Canadian?

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=593&pagenumber=2

Search for "just above".


In any case, are the 7460's "out of the window" (same discussion, page 1,
search for "apollo is out of the window") despite the article's "offering
7460 ... in two configurations"? How could you possibly make a slip like
that if you had read the article?
 
Re: flamewar truce requested

Rocketman> Flamewar truce

Never. Hohoho, joking. Fair enough, I might take a break until ~new year's
or so.


Merry Christmas everyone, yes, even you spikey, and everyone else who
dislikes me; enjoy your new year too. Perhaps we could simultaneously make
new year's resolutions not to engage in further flamage? When hell freezes
over perhaps ... ! ... hmm ...

-joey
 
JoeyJ

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah............

JoeyJ> He did? He (agreenster) shouldn't be mentioning inane things he saw on some rumour site
or thought up himself, unless he can make a case for it.

Shouldnt???
Shouldnt?

What the hell is that? Like its a moral thing or something? Besides, I was mentioning something seen on THIS rumor site, pertaining to THIS subject, and every single thing we talk about is speculation, so what makes anything you say any different?

And besides, who are YOU to tell ME what I SHOULD and SHOULDNT do? Jesus man, are there rules or something? You go around these board with **** falling out of your mouth all the time and we have to put up with that. God.

Maybe I didnt get the macrumors.com handbook.

(lets see if you can make it to New Years after that flame-ignitor)
Sorry Jeff, I just have to see what he's going to do, take back his word and flame me, or restrain himself like I have this entire thread.
Now its a moral issue. :)
 
Im glad me and kela arent the only ones whove noticed what a d*** he is. God damn some of you are slow.

go agreenster. Thats good impartial flaming if ever ive seen it.
 
Originally posted by joey j
>You said the Motorola did well with the G4,

And they did. Whether or not their foundries can cope is a completely
unrelated matter.



> and you said that the 7450 scaled reasonably. Which ofcourse it hasnt.

(isn't it odd that you can't dig up where I said that? maybe because I didn't?)

I never asserted that anywhere; no amount of smoke-blowing will change
that fact. However, I did explain multiple times the difference between
Motorola's foundries, which haven't been able to produce higher-frequency
G4s in volume, which is completely separate to the G4's design, which is
an elegant 32-bit load/store microprocessor. Why you can't tell the
difference between the two is astounding.



>Find the quotes yourself. Its an interesting quest of yours joey, finding
out your own ignorance.

I hardly think you've a leg to stand on. Do you remember the discussion of
the FX being able to use a 400 mhz FSB? And then me pointing you toward
articles at IBM's website which all specified 200 Mhz as the FSB
frequency? Care to explain your way around that one?



> you obviously havnt read your own threads before have you?

Oh dear, spikey, I wouldn't be saying that if I were you. Remember how you
called me "a f***ing canadian" when I had already said that I wasn't
Canadian?

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=593&pagenumber=2

Search for "just above".


In any case, are the 7460's "out of the window" (same discussion, page 1,
search for "apollo is out of the window") despite the article's "offering
7460 ... in two configurations"? How could you possibly make a slip like
that if you had read the article?

I said your

So you still say motorola has doen well for apple with the G4?
even though they got stuck at 500mhz for a year?
even though they have only moved to 867mhz in nearly a year?
dont you think fabrication is part of what determines whether they are good or not?
Its not design of the cpu that matters, its how far you can travel with it compared to the competition, thanks to the G4 apple have fallen behind, not even you can argue with that.

Isnt it convenient you keep asking me to dig up info on what blunders you have made? just so i give up out of sheer boredom with you and this subject. Just so you can satisfy yourself with the delusion that you won the argument.
you did assert it, you want to see it then you find it. aLthough you are right, someone else has to prove your ignorance to you. Get a shrink, they get paid to do that s***.


This argument isnt about me having a leg to stand on, i based that assumption on a rumor and not the source you chose to use, i mentioned that fact, i admitted it, and so i was cpmpletely correct in what i was saying, hahahahahahahaha joey read what i say next time.
Good luck on that quest by the way.


I honestly dont care if you are canadian or not, your still a jerk. not reading your threads is one thing but YOU not reading reading your own threads is another.
Well done joey, one step closer to your ignorance, im with you all the way man hehehe.


a slip like that???
That was a comment on writing style, not content of the guys article. Another case of you making me repeat myself joey, i have said this before, hahaha you need more tricks.
that so called slip had no relevance to what i was saying in my last thread. another case of taking quote out of context joey, try again, better luck next time.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA joey you are one dumb ba*****. you think people havent noticed your tricks, this isnt flaming this is pathetic, your not proving anything because i have defended my case succesfully before.

Unlucky joey, why dont you go away and learn some new tricks. And maybe you could come back again as john123?

 
Originally posted by spikey

So you still say motorola has doen well for apple with the G4?
even though they got stuck at 500mhz for a year?
even though they have only moved to 867mhz in nearly a year?
dont you think fabrication is part of what determines whether they are good or not?
Its not design of the cpu that matters, its how far you can travel with it compared to the competition, thanks to the G4 apple have fallen behind, not even you can argue with that.

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This is an argument that makes sense. It seems to me Jobs had a bit of a tantrum this time last year when he was not able to release "insanely cool products" at the show. He had to settle for speed bumps.

This year will be the same IMHO. One thing that helps is the speed bumps are historically hefty.

The featuritis is fully implemented.

The only thing we are missing and its a shame to whine over it, is that it really COULD HAVE been alot better if Motorola gave a crap about the revenues from the Mac project. This tells me the project is too uncertain or too labor intensive or too leading edge technology dependent.

On the good side this means Apple is SHIPPING bleeding edge products.

I for one would like to see alot more emphasis on raid everywhere, MP everywhere and then the crappy, slow chips Motorola can crank out are less of an issue. It would also increase the lifecycle for both the chip and the box.

Apple already has the longest life cycle products, now they need longer product cycle products. Even the imac has had numerous iterations of incremental upgrades and varieties.

I would like to see a flat panel imac with 4 cheap G4's of any mhz available in huge volume, internal raid, and all the existing featuritis. Heck, claim the Mhz is the COMBINED mhz of the chips. Why not?

With OSX there is finally a true ability to utilize the horsepower in background to existing software. Perhaps there needs to be an OS kernal to take calls from older non-MP software and have the machine redirect the calls to parallelism.

Rocketman
 
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