Maybe. But whatever they call it I'm really really hoping they'll revisit the ultra thin Retina MacBook design now that they have the right processor and have come back to their senses about keyboard switches. All I'd ask is that it have more than one USB-C port this time.
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There will not be a newer iMac 27"
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Of course they will come with an 30"-or-more iMac, but I just think it's going to be announced alongside the new MacBook Pro and have the same "Pro" mnemonic instead of just being named iMac 30" or iMac 32". I think Apple wants to differentiate it from the newly released iMac 24".
Think of it differently:
1) if the next iMac 30" (or more) is in the exact same product range as the newly released iMac 24", why Apple hasn't announced it 2 days ago? There's no good technical reason not to.
2) if on the contrary it's a different product (other display technology, other colours, so on and so forth), why Apple would simply name it iMac 30"?
IMHO, if it sits in a different product range, it makes sense well... to use a different name too by adding the "Pro" mnemonic.
If you are right and I am wrong (no pb, that's the beauty of sharing thoughts) and a direct replacement of the 1799 5k iMac with modest RAM/Storage bump is coming, it will definitely not have the "Pro" mnemonic. So yeah, it wouldn't make much sense.
I was kind of thinking along the same lines. I think the “colorful” macs will be the entry level across the board, while the space gray will be used only in the “high end” pro lines.
After years of people here complaining about the “confusing” lineup, it looks like Apple is using Apple Silicon as their repositioning of the lines...which MR will still complain about (obviously).
I agree with the premise here.
My hope is that, along with an iMac Pro, there is a Mac Mini Pro as well
My hope is that, along with an iMac Pro, there is a Mac Mini Pro as well
As part of that ransomware leak, there are two new unannounced Macs that 9to5Mac believes are new Mac minis.
Is this a typo? Do you rather mean a Mac Pro mini instead as per the rumours of a smaller Mac Pro?
I just want a headless, more powerful than Mac Mini option
I’d worry a Mac Pro Mini would be overkill and ridiculously expensive.
I hope Apple does not pay, so that we can see. That said, how many unannounced Macs in total are there in those papers?
Ouch, tough. As the Mac mini range was always meant to be entry-level, not sure your expectations get fulfilled.
That said, you can already go for:
- Apple M1 chip with 8‑core CPU, 8‑core GPU, and 16‑core Neural Engine
- 16GB unified memory
- 2TB SSD storage
- 10 Gigabit Ethernet
You refer to not sitting in the front row of a movie theater, because it’s to close. So why not just sit farther back from your monitor? Also, they’re not saying that the screen size should impact the storage, just that the higher-end models will likely have a higher storage capacity as well as a larger screen. Professionals need both of those things.
The 2018 update did kind of "pro up" the Mac mini and with Apple said to be releasing their own branded display, a more powerful / capable Mac mini could pair nicely with that.
The GPU is insufficient for me in them right now...
Perhaps a spec bump will change that. Hope so
We better hope that’s the case. What is the alternative, jacking up the price of the 5k iMacs to 3k+ and killing the entry level models they currently have? That would be awful. All I want is a big screen iMac spec’d up a bit in the 2K-2.5k range. That’s the sweet spot workhorse computer for a lot of us.
I’m not even sure where people got this idea there will be a pro iMac with a new design over the new 24” iMac. It seems like a completely made up thing in the Apple speculation land of YouTube and Twitter.
What we do know from reputable reporting is that there will be a new smaller Mac Pro and a new bigger Mac Pro. I don’t see where this leaves room for a pro iMac. It seems like the iMac Pro was a holdover machine for the Mac Pro. It was never updated and was silently killed off. I see no reason to believe it’s coming back unless Gurman or Kuo reports on it.
Just curious, where do you get the info about what LG charges for the panel? That’s interesting.
Regardless. I think the big iMac will have a 28” display. That’s right between 24” and 32”. And it definitely will just be a standard display like the 24”.
Once people had the LG part number, they were able to look it up on LG parts and price lists. I expect Apple could get a bit better pricing, but I don't think anything but the Pro Display XDR currently uses that panel and I expect production volumes are currently low so I don't expect LG is giving them large discounts off list.
Since it will have to be Retina, pretty much whatever the display size will be on the "big brother" iMac, it will only be used by Apple and will be custom-designed for them. So it is going to cost Apple more than if they used a common non-Retina 4K panel and that means this iMac will be more expensive than the current 5K panel.
I suspect the larger new iMac will not be greatly different in design from the new 24in. as many see to expect or want.
Agree 100%. Just look at the existing 4K and 5k iMacs. They have the same design and the difference is the 5k has a bigger display and a higher tier of CPU and GPU with the same base RAM and SSD sizes. That’s exactly what I expect the next big iMac to have. It will cost $500 more and have an “M1X” which will have more CPU and GPU cores, and it will have a bigger 5.5k display and start at 8GB and 256GB. No MiniLED. No chinless design. No 32” 6k display. No “iMac Pro”. Etc.
People let their speculation run rampant and then they get disappointed when Apple doesn’t deliver what they invented in their head. I just pay attention to credible reporters and don’t let my expectations go overboard. For the previous event I thought a 24” iMac was likely but not guaranteed so when they announced it I was pleasantly surprised and not disappointed one bit. The people who are mad they didn’t have a big iMac too should have never expected that because it was never reported. The 24” has been reported since before the first M1 Macs shipped.
If I had to guess, based on what I’ve read for the past while, I suspect...
- The display will be about 30 inches.
- It will have the same design as the 24in. only with larger display and consequently the chin will look proportionately smaller.
- It might have Space Grey as a colour option, but will not have Black. I just don’t see Apple doing that particularly on such a large device. Whether they offer other colours besides Silver is a good possibility, but not a certainty.
- It will have white bezels (cue collective groan of exasperation from many MR followers).
- The base model will likely have 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM and priced about $500 more than the base 24in. BUT I would like to be wrong and see the base model be 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM at the same price.
- It likely will not have user upgradable RAM capability given RAM is built into the M1 processor. I would prefer to be wrong about that, but you will still be able to configure the computer for at least 16 and 32GB RAM if not 64 and 128 as well. At least 512GB, 1TB and 2TB SSD and most likely more will be available.
- Mainstream consumers will like the new iMac and many MR followers will rail in disappointment.
- The display will be about 30 inches.
- It will have the same design as the 24in. only with larger display and consequently the chin will look proportionately smaller.
- It might have Space Grey as a colour option, but will not have Black. I just don’t see Apple doing that particularly on such a large device. Whether they offer other colours besides Silver is a good possibility, but not a certainty.
- It will have white bezels (cue collective groan of exasperation from many MR followers).
- The base model will likely have 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM and priced about $500 more than the base 24in. BUT I would like to be wrong and see the base model be 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM at the same price.
- It likely will not have user upgradable RAM capability given RAM is built into the M1 processor. I would prefer to be wrong about that, but you will still be able to configure the computer for at least 16 and 32GB RAM if not 64 and 128 as well. At least 512GB, 1TB and 2TB SSD and most likely more will be available.
- Mainstream consumers will like the new iMac and many MR followers will rail in disappointment.
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I seriously doubt it will have white bezels. The 24" iMac is aimed at light users. The larger iMac is more of a professional machine.
If I am kinda "right" as per my first post, i.e. having the naming iMac Pro, it doesn't mean this will be a $4000 entry-price computer. Look at the MacBook Pro 13", it has the "Pro" mnemonic and is not priced as if it were a Mac Pro.
You seem to associate the price of the previous iMac Pro with what I write and that's not what I meant.
When I posted this thread, I had made this idea completely on my own + what I read on MacRumours. Nothing else
I haven't read anything about a bigger Mac Pro. Can you point me to the link please?
There's definitely a room for it: a computer that can start at $2500 or so, but also has the ability to be upgraded to a $5000 computer while maintaining an integrated design. That's a feature the Mac Pro cannot achieve, but the Mac Pro can be even more upgradeable (dedicated extensions such as afterburner).
There's a market for the iMac Pro.
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Let's put - imho - some basic logic into this. If as suggested in the latest posts, the next iMac is "simply" the same as the recently announced iMac 24" with a bigger screen (be it 27", 28" or 32"), why not announcing it at the same time? There's no technical nor marketing reasons, or any reasons, not to. It would be as if Apple announced the iPhone Pro and the iPhone Pro Max during two separate events whereas there's mostly just a screen size difference between both. It makes no sense to me.
On the other hand, if the next iMac is a different computer then, yes, they are reasons to make another event for it. Announcing it alongside new MacBook Pro would reinforce the idea that it's named iMac Pro.
Finally, l don't think there will be a design change from the recently announced iMac 24". The only changes I can see are:
- Space gray and black bezels (obviously no white bezels for a space gray computer)
- An adjustable stand (many people wish such a feature, I think Apple can listen on this)