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b.c of the internal parts and the antenna, they cannot go edge to edge with the screen, so they would have to make the phone wider to have a wider screen
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There's a reason a taller screen makes sense.
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b.c of the internal parts and the antenna, they cannot go edge to edge with the screen, so they would have to make the phone wider to have a wider screen
yes
again, the 4S is narrower than the 3GS.
The design changed.
If they make a 4S (or anything new again) the same width as a 3GS, I don't see your point as valid.
From a developer's perspective, a wider screen will be a nightmare because you will essentially need to develop a whole new app. If the screen grows taller, your UI elements stay exactly the same, and on your part little work needs to be done. To see what I mean, open the voice memo app and start recording, then go to the Music App. Most table-based apps (which most of iOS apps are), will need to do very little work.
oh ok, sorry i just totally over looked the fact you were talking about the 3GS width.
Goodness....Why are people still discussing a wider iphone when that is not going to happen with all the leaks shown ? Not one rumor or leak has suggested a wider iPhone, so the ranting over having one should be mute by now. If you are bent over having a wider phone, there are many Android phones available to purchase.
The 1136x640 screen has still to be proved to be the next iPhone screenGoodness....Why are people still discussing a wider iphone when that is not going to happen with all the leaks shown ? Not one rumor or leak has suggested a wider iPhone, so the ranting over having one should be mute by now. If you are bent over having a wider phone, there are many Android phones available to purchase.
we'll wait next month, I think, to know.You can't mute discussions about comparison on screens aspect ratios
Have you seen anybody convinced a 4" 3:2 screen was gonna be on the next iPhone?
move on, don't read if you're bored with this.
Totally agree. For example, I read a lot on these forums but from my phone, and Inceasing height and width would make text larger, which needs to happen because to me my eyes get tired after about 20 minutes of reading with this small font. I think it'd make web browsing a lot easier.
CAn't you make it wider and make it even taller to match the aspect ratio that you would get with just a taller screen?
Personally I rather for them to address it now if they're going to go throw the whole business of changing screen size and resolution they may as well get the ball rolling. Eventually they're going to switch from the 4" screen and things are going to have to happen anyway.
Doesn't the new iOS allow for autoscaling or is that only for table based apps?
I know developers have to rewrite stuff and sometimes it can be a pain in there rear, hey I write code as part of my job, not phone apps or games though so I don't have to deal with things that game app writers will but on the flip side why does the consumer have to be held back? I thought you were suppose to cater to your buyers
At the end of the day a developer developes. Either he'll update his app or someone else will come along with a similar app that will.
How does Android deal with it? I know there are some apps that will run on a small screen phone all the way up 4.8"
Not sure I follow the hardware standpoint. Are you refering to all the ipod touches, 3gs & 4/s not being left out. I understand having old hardware and Apple would want to cater to them some what but they had no problem dropping features in iOS6 from running on the iPhone4.At some point you have to press forward, that's one problem with Windows imo. They need to do away with alot of that backwards capatabiliy and redo the registry if they decide to keep it.
If the apps scale it shouldn't matter what the screen size is should it? Black bars may come in to play but for devices how is it different than having an app that runs only on retina screens?
If you want you can PM the answer as not to derail the thread.
Android was designed from the ground up to support multiple display types. I'm not versed enough to know how they accomplish this.
It appears from my view that Apple has moved on from trying to create a resolution independent UI and has realized that have a more flexible way of laying out the UI is an easier and more stable feat.
At this point i've seen plenty of idevice docks that are pretty tight wrt width. If Apple were to go substantially wider many of these docks may not have the room to accommodate the size. It really depends.
I don't think this is going to be as much of an issue in a couple of years as Airplay will become the default way to connect to speakers as well as Bluetooth.
Until then it seems like a sensible compromise to expand up and then as we move to wireless connections for media and improvements to Auto Layout we can expect high quality and dynamic UI to be presented.
Perhaps the rMPB eschewing the choice of resolution in the Display Prefs is a harbinger of things to come.
It appears from my view that Apple has moved on from trying to create a resolution independent UI and has realized that have a more flexible way of laying out the UI is an easier and more stable feat.
At this point i've seen plenty of idevice docks that are pretty tight wrt width. If Apple were to go substantially wider many of these docks may not have the room to accommodate the size. It really depends.
I don't think this is going to be as much of an issue in a couple of years as Airplay will become the default way to connect to speakers as well as Bluetooth.
Until then it seems like a sensible compromise to expand up and then as we move to wireless connections for media and improvements to Auto Layout we can expect high quality and dynamic UI to be presented.
Perhaps the rMPB eschewing the choice of resolution in the Display Prefs is a harbinger of things to come.
There is a fullscreen safari feature coming to us in iOS 6 for use in landscape mode.
I forgot about the docks, thanks but the new iPhone is suppose to have a new connector so Apples already throwing a wrench in things. New hardware docks would probably include adapters to allow them to be used with different size phones if they had gone wider
True.
I think a wider iPhone is inevitable. Likely within two revisions we'll have 4" and say 4.5" models.
In the end what we expect our phones to do is going to be closer to the tasks we rely on a notebook to do. We're going to need to have sufficient battery life and utility and to me that means a solid size for the screen and room for more powerful processors.
It's encouraging that we may finally be moving off the venerable 3.5" screen size. If this happens then anything come in the future.
I agree completely, as I mentioned in my earlier post. Apple kept the 4 / 4S size for two years, next up is the new elongated phone to be used for two years, so by 2015, Apple will have caught up with Android and Windows smartphones that feature contemporary, highly useful display sizes.
Agreed. I also think you're right about the the revisions. The next two I think will be 4" and after that larger. That's one reason I think I'll be going with a S3 or Note2 because I want a larger screen unless something at the Keynote comes out and I have to it but I figure by the time my 2yr contract is up Apple will have a phone in the size I'd like. Most of my apps are free and the ones that weren't are on Android also plus I have an iPad2 so my apps won't go to waste
Smartphones today do so much more than they did even a few years ago and they are truly pocket computers. Heck you can even start you car remotely if you have the right vehicle.
You're dead on with the battery life has got to be there
This was a good practical post by the OP. I'm not unhappy with the 4, but a taller screen + a touch wider would work not only for Safari, but also for DataViz DTG, especially Excel. One of the files I use daily gets 15 rows on 3.5" with the zoom that works for me. Another 5-6 rows with another 1/2" height and a little more width for would be certainly OK with me, as I have medium-sized hands and could easily thumb-scroll a taller as well as a little wider screen.
I can see both sides of the argument.
My phone is in portrait 80% of the time or so, so the extra height has value for all my news sites, Flipboard and dozens of other things.
My phone is in portrait 80% of the time or so, so the extra height has value for all my news sites, Flipboard and dozens of other things.
Lots of newspaper and magazine columns are formatted with a width about equal to what you see on the iPhone. Columns are great for reading news and information you want quick.
I agree its less pleasurable for reading a novel, but you're going to be mostly reading news and email on a phone anyway. Making it taller allows more content. It's a great solution.
For those complaining about text size--safari's Reader feature is wonderful!
I agree its less pleasurable for reading a novel, but you're going to be mostly reading news and email on a phone anyway. Making it taller allows more content. It's a great solution.
For those complaining about text size--safari's Reader feature is wonderful!
But you see, this is a catch-22 problem. People now buy iPhones because of apps and games. It is THE advantage iOS devices have over Android. Releasing a new piece of hardware with nothing that runs on it means people won't buy it. Developers make consumers want to buy devices. A phone that has 30 games that run properly on it is, to the consumer, better than a phone with a marginally bigger screen with 30 games that don't run properly on it.
The transition from normal to retina is smooth. Your graphics just double in size. How the app looks and works doesn't change. Changing the dimensions to something that isn't an order of 2 poses serious problems to developers. Apple knew very well this when they built the new iPad and did everything they could (lots of engineering on the hardware side) to have it running at double the resolution.
The whole idea of just making it taller is dumb, we all know its dumb. Some of us are trying desperately to come up with justifications for it, but the fact remains: it's an insanely stupid idea, period. Sure, Apple will sell lots of them, but I'm pretty convinced that we will look back on this as the watershed moment when Apple lost it's mojo in the smartphone space.
Being wider doesnt necessarily mean that it will make text bigger. When I had the HTC One X the text wasn't any bigger than the iPhone. They just used the extra space to add more content.
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An elongated screen could actually help showing a lot more content in certain situations.
For example, I frequently get frustrated replying to text messages because with the keyboard up, you can't see much of the message you're replying to..
I really like this article on the Verge about this topic:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5
Also look at these pictures:
For example, I frequently get frustrated replying to text messages because with the keyboard up, you can't see much of the message you're replying to..
I really like this article on the Verge about this topic:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5
Also look at these pictures: