"There's Already a New Apple Watch Coming Out in the Fall"

MICHAELSD

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It seems like it's not difficult in the slightest to confuse the masses... Have already heard twice today that there isn't a new Apple Watch update, but a brand new Apple Watch already coming out this fall. That will seem true to owners when the update significantly improves the experience but I find it funny how people are confusing this for a second-gen Watch :D.
 

rowdt1

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Well, most of the time the software that's been introduced in the beginning of the year comes preinstalled with new hardware later on in the year. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new lineup of Watches in September. On the other hand the Watch has only been on sale for six weeks, so why renew now already.
 

Keekje

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I don't see this happen. I could imagine that if they would do this many ppl that own an apple watch right now would be very pissed.

I think we will see a new watch next year or even later. The simple reason for this is that for example The Netherlands is not even in the 2e pool of country's for the apple watch. For that reason I don't see then releasing a new version before all the country's are able to buy v1.
 
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ifarlow

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No new version of the watch, just watchOS. It's being released in the fall to align watchOS with OS X and iOS releases. It's getting a major version bump because they want to put 1.0 behind them.

But yeah, people will be screaming in the streets that a new watch is coming in the Fall, it won't be compatible with the existing watch bands, and people that bought the first watches are stupid and were suckered by Apple.

It's inevitable.
 
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leeingham

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It seems like it's not difficult in the slightest to confuse the masses... Have already heard twice today that there isn't a new Apple Watch update, but a brand new Apple Watch already coming out this fall. That will seem true to owners when the update significantly improves the experience but I find it funny how people are confusing this for a second-gen Watch :D.
Not sure where you heard that but everyone ive spoke to is excited abot new software and didnt even mention a new watch....
 

papbot

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Just hearing about the new software I have not read much about them fixing the HR sensor. Have the fixed this in the new version or not.
If you're talking about irregularities in the function I would assume there are some fixes. But if you're talking about the "every 10 minutes" business, since the documentation has already been modified I believe that was an an intentional change and will remain in place.
 

papbot

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Well, most of the time the software that's been introduced in the beginning of the year comes preinstalled with new hardware later on in the year. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new lineup of Watches in September. On the other hand the Watch has only been on sale for six weeks, so why renew now already.
I think people may have just been seeing 2.0 and nothing else and then assuming it meant a new watch. As for new hardware I wouldn't expect to see anything for at least a year or two, maybe more. I still maintain that they wouldn't release a $10,000+ device just to have a replacement six months to a year out. If they had planned it that way I think that gold edition would have been released as a second generation device. But who knows maybe there'll be a new model before some people even get the first one delivered.
 

hovscorpion12

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There is no new hardware Apple watch coming in the fall, only WatchOS 2.0. Apple will however announce the second generation Apple watch at it's September keynote following the iPhone 6S/6S Plus with pre-orders in 2016. Apple will follow the same structure it has with last year's initial Apple Watch introduction.
 

Jack426

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It seems like it's not difficult in the slightest to confuse the masses... Have already heard twice today that there isn't a new Apple Watch update, but a brand new Apple Watch already coming out this fall. That will seem true to owners when the update significantly improves the experience but I find it funny how people are confusing this for a second-gen Watch :D.
Haha! I'll probably hear the same from some of my friends. :D

In all seriousness though, it's actually kind of sad. We have so much technology today, and yet most of the general public doesn't know anything about it. The more tech we get, the easier it becomes to use, and the less people care to learn about it.
 

Fernandez21

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There is no new hardware Apple watch coming in the fall, only WatchOS 2.0. Apple will however announce the second generation Apple watch at it's September keynote following the iPhone 6S/6S Plus with pre-orders in 2016. Apple will follow the same structure it has with last year's initial Apple Watch introduction.
No, I don't think they'll do that, that would kill holiday sales. The software and hardware will eventually line up though, either a new watch gets announced next spring along with watchoOS3, or it gets announced next fall.
 

shenfrey

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I don't see this happen. I could imagine that if they would do this many ppl that own an apple watch right now would be very pissed.

I think we will see a new watch next year or even later. The simple reason for this is that for example The Netherlands is not even in the 2e pool of country's for the apple watch. For that reason I don't see then releasing a new version before all the country's are able to buy v1.
iPad 4.
 

papbot

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Since many haven't even received theirs yet and there are probably countries where Apple wants to extend watch sales I still don't believe a new watch will be seen anytime soon. An no version of iPad cost $10,000. Most of the watch's functions are determined by the iOS version so I don't see a need to change the hardware. And I believe the new watchOS will increase battery life and if that is true no need for new hardware at least for quite a while.
 

Arran

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...Apple will however announce the second generation Apple watch at it's September keynote following the iPhone 6S/6S Plus with pre-orders in 2016...
Disagree. I think the current watch hardware will be with us for many years.

The watch is nothing more than a smart I/O device in Apple's architecture. Like a mouse, a display or speakers in a mac-mini setup. You don't need to replace those when you upgrade your mac mini (or, in the case of the watch, your 'iPhone) but you still enjoy huge benefits from the new processor.

I have loudspeakers that are 30 years old. They've been driven by many amplifiers of the years and they still work great.

10 years for the watch wouldn't be pushing it.
 
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If you're talking about irregularities in the function I would assume there are some fixes. But if you're talking about the "every 10 minutes" business, since the documentation has already been modified I believe that was an an intentional change and will remain in place.

How about if you arm moves? Seem that the HR thing has turned into a gimmick to me as the HR is a key part of Apple's fitness thing and it does not work or works poorly. My $250 Fitbit Surge does my HR constantly, even when I move my arm, it does not even require the watch be tight and it works. Has an accurate GPS built right into it and is very accurate. The Surge even notifies me of an email or text!
 

susan12369

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How about if you arm moves? Seem that the HR thing has turned into a gimmick to me as the HR is a key part of Apple's fitness thing and it does not work or works poorly. My $250 Fitbit Surge does my HR constantly, even when I move my arm, it does not even require the watch be tight and it works. Has an accurate GPS built right into it and is very accurate. The Surge even notifies me of an email or text!
I agree, they still have a way to go to get this to work properly, and I'd love to understand why they say that it attempts to measure your HR every 10 minutes but won't record it when you're in motion or your arm is moving. Clearly it can since it does it when you're using the workout app, so why both trying to measure it if you're not going to try to record it? Doesn't make sense to me.

And just because they've changed the language on their site once for this change in the HR measurement doesn't mean that they can't change it again.
 
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I agree, they still have a way to go to get this to work properly, and I'd love to understand why they say that it attempts to measure your HR every 10 minutes but won't record it when you're in motion or your arm is moving. Clearly it can since it does it when you're using the workout app, so why both trying to measure it if you're not going to try to record it? Doesn't make sense to me.

And just because they've changed the language on their site once for this change in the HR measurement doesn't mean that they can't change it again.

In the end Apple will get it fixed. Maybe not to all of our liking but if the Fitbit does it the Apple Watch should be able to do it, too. Unless it is all about the battery and having enough power.
 
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papbot

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How about if you arm moves? Seem that the HR thing has turned into a gimmick to me as the HR is a key part of Apple's fitness thing and it does not work or works poorly. My $250 Fitbit Surge does my HR constantly, even when I move my arm, it does not even require the watch be tight and it works. Has an accurate GPS built right into it and is very accurate. The Surge even notifies me of an email or text!
Sounds like you had the perfect device. And it cost a lot less. Our needs are all different but other than the occasional notifications bug mine is working the way I want and expect.
 

susan12369

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In the end Apple will get it fixed. Maybe not to all of our liking but if the Fitbit does it the Apple Watch should be able to do it, too. Unless it is all about the battery and having enough power.
I agree, I just wish there was a way to go back to before the update, because then everything worked perfectly for me ;) I know the update fixed glitches for others, but all it did was cause the HR/activity tracking glitch for me.
 

susan12369

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Sounds like you had the perfect device. And it cost a lot less. Our needs are all different but other than the occasional notifications bug mine is working the way I want and expect.
One of the big PR pushes for this product was the activity tracking. "Apple Watch measures all the ways you move, such as walking the dog, taking the stairs, or playing with your kids. It even keeps track of when you stand up, and encourages you to keep moving. Because it all counts. And it all adds up."

I'm glad that's not something you're having trouble with, but those of us who were getting that experience before the update, and now don't have that experience post update, are having issues.
 

papbot

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I do hope whatever issues you're having are eventually resolved. But so much of what I'm reading seems to indicate that people were more interested in a fancy Fitbit than a communications device. If I had no interest in all the other things the watch does but only wanted an activity tracker I would have bought a Fitbit or Garmin. Prior to this device I was keeping an eye on the Pebbles and would probably have bought one if this hadn't materialized. The other functions which are still evolving will become more important to me as time goes on but for now it's just what I expected when I bought it.
 
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