They need to up their RAM game though: 16GB base.
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so disappointed in the iMac... was really hoping it would be updated at the last keynote.
Funny, I still prefer the Magic Mouse with real batteries. The ‘new’ ones have a too loud click. in fact, I nave bought 2 spare ones in case one dies.
While I guess the "very outdated" may be true what with it being 5 years old, I can't see significant improvements happening to it.
It's a very simple product, after all.
The one thing I could think of (inspired by the Surface Pen) would be using the back as an eraser.
The way I hold my pencil, I constantly accidentally double-tap the side, so I had to turn that functionality off.
I doubt something like that would warrant a new generation of the product, though.
Here's the thing. All of us tech-nerds on this forum want new because, well, new.
However, is anyone with an M1 iMac really hating their life because it's too slow? I seriously doubt that. It still works for all the reasons they bought it for in the first place, it's not slow compared to M2, and it will probably last just as long. And, if someone out there IS crushing their M1, they probably need more than an M2 or M3 iMac would offer anyway (i.e. an MxPro/Max/Ultra).
An M1 iMac is still a fantastically powerful computer for 'normal' people. I bought my Dad and M1 Mac mini earlier this year and I fully expect it to meet his casual computing needs for YEARS to come.
However, is anyone with an M1 iMac really hating their life because it's too slow? I seriously doubt that. It still works for all the reasons they bought it for in the first place, it's not slow compared to M2, and it will probably last just as long. And, if someone out there IS crushing their M1, they probably need more than an M2 or M3 iMac would offer anyway (i.e. an MxPro/Max/Ultra).
An M1 iMac is still a fantastically powerful computer for 'normal' people. I bought my Dad and M1 Mac mini earlier this year and I fully expect it to meet his casual computing needs for YEARS to come.
What they need is a consumer 32” display at a more reasonable price. The current XDR was designed as a high end ”reference” display with high resolution and brightness for doing video production work. They put a lot of extra flourishes into the construction of the case and the stand. competing reference monitors sell in the 10’s of thousands of dollars. The XDR might not have been as strong a competitor in that market as claimed but it was overkill for consumer use. They should probably bring out a bigger brother to the Studio display in a 32” 6K size (a maybe a different take on the camera) at a price less than $2.5K. They could update the XDR to actually compete as a reference monitor or just retire it.
The 24" iMac still represents an all inclusive desktop package fully accessorized, that neither the component Macs solutions offer. Neither a Mac mini or a Studio Mac desktop configurations are fully accessorized for consumers. The only real alternative to the iMac that comes with everything is various Mac Laptops such as the MBA and MBP that you don't need mouse/keyboard/display.
IMHO the iMac if it comes out in a larger more powerful configurations can only hurt sales of other Apple desktops, hence Apple's hesitation.
I agree completely, and I've been hoping/waiting for this to happen. I don't think $2.5k is realistic for a 32" display. I would be happy to pay in the realm of $3.5k for it. After giving the Samsung M8 a try last year, I'm actually a lot closer to breaking down and getting the XDR, but I still haven't convinced myself, especially given the fact that it's due for an upgrade(or retirement). I do design, so the XDR is somewhat overkill for my needs, and I would be thrilled if they shaved it down a bit in features and price. I went and looked at the Studio display, but I just can't do 27" — too small for me.
I thought that a $1K premium is not unreasonable for the increased size if the rest of the features are the same as the Studio Display. A $2K premium over the 27” SD would probably need to be a mini-LED display or something like that. I think there are more people who would like a larger display at a smaller price than people who want a better and larger display at a big price increase.
I guess I was thinking of the 'full' price with a pivoting stand and all) Listen — if it comes out and costs $2.5k — I will not complain! I swear!
The AirPods Max are still solid. Apple is probably waiting to update them once they get wireless lossless sorted. The new Beats Pro offer it, but it has to be used wired. There is no way Apple will force users into that for an audio product with the word Air in it. Other than that I don’t see any other features they could add that would make a difference. USB C would be nice, but I still have other Apple products that use lighting, so it really doesn’t matter to me.
The trouble is perception of value - Apple sells high/higher end computers at a premium price.
While entry-level devices like the iMac don't need the latest and greatest, it's pretty hard to justify buying one today, at the same full price as when it was launched over 2 years ago, when all other models sport a newer chip.
I'd still be tempted to buy one if I was in the market for a new computer right now.
My Mac mini is an M1 with 16 GB RAM and it's still fantastic for everything I throw at it. The only reason I bought the Mac mini over the iMac was that I wanted a bigger screen (I bought a 27" 4k Philips with what I consider good color accuracy for photo editing). If I hadn't wanted that, I would've likely bought an iMac as well. The green one, probably xD
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Fair points, but if it had an M2 in it, it wouldn't be more/less capable, it would be just be 'newer'. M2 really doesn't offer more than M1 for the vast majority of things that most 'normal' non-techie iMac buyers would want or need. An M2 (or M3 for that matter) wouldn't help you do email, web, photos, MS Office any faster (in real-terms) than an M1. It would just benchmark better. Most folks buy iMacs for their all-in-one svelte design not their power.
Perhaps Apple built too many of these things (I mean all the color options must be an inventory nightmare) and is just waiting to sell until stocks are low before updating. There must be thousand of these things in retail channels and warehouses all over the world. (Note - I don't have anything to back this up. It's just my 100% cockamamy theory..
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We're back to a time where Apple's pro display is out of date again. Ah, memories...
Can we for real get a 6K 120Hz 32" display for normies already?
I never thought I would see the day where the Mac mini gets regular updates but the iMac is left behind. What a world!
Can we for real get a 6K 120Hz 32" display for normies already?
I never thought I would see the day where the Mac mini gets regular updates but the iMac is left behind. What a world!
LOL I bought one of these for my grandpa not too long ago. And then I borrowed it from him earlier this year when I was archiving things off my old DVD-Rs I found in a closet. It's amazing how many of those you can fit on modern drives. Reminds me of floppies by comparison.
I can't imagine how Apple redesign that thing, well yes put the charger on the back but what about the ergonomics?
I bet they will never change it, maybe they simply don't care about making a new mouse.
the trackpad is totally different, actually I hate it, I move quick with the mouse, but I move even more fast with the trackpad on the MBP,
yes!!! trackpad on the MBP is different than the external trackpad, yes same gestures bla bla but!!! have the trackpad separate from the keyboard on the side is worse than have the keyboard fixed on the top of the fixed trackpad of the MBP.
Kindly disagree. Trackpad feels nice, that's all. Mouse precision & speed are superior, even with a mediocre mouse like the MM. Ultimately the key thing is, simultaneity with keyboard usage. MBP's vertical layout (keyboard above trackpad) doesn't help, though you can "force" it, it's still less efficient with slower precision.
E.g. you can drag/select text with three fingers swipe yes, but nowhere near the mouse drag/selection speed/precision.
Zooming is superior in the trackpad & scrolling feels nicer and more natural, but that won't move the needle in 8-10+hrs work efficiency in most cases. (Aside from ergonomic disadvantages)
As with anything YMMV.
Yes I’m aware. The tip broke in half and the part that was screwed into the pencil deformed and I tried many times and I still couldn’t get it out.
I move faster with $10 chaep mouse than the apple external trackpad, but even more faster with the keyboard + trackpad of the MBP.
I feel I'm not alone and people create things like this: https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/783328345/the-tre-o-apple-bluetooth-magic-trackpad
I'll buy the apple magic soap, maybe I got the precision + gestures, to get ride the external trackpad.
So there goes my $129…for a product that I had already owned for 5 years. 🥲
If they discontinued the iMac then they would lose a lot of customers. I am not updating my large screen iMac because the discontinued it and I won’t be buying another iMac until they come back with it.
Would be great if Apple continues with the beautiful colours of iMac for future models also