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At two years and six months old, the Apple Studio Display would probably be the next on this list if it included more devices.

It's a bummer that both of Apple's displays haven't been refreshed in a while.

The Studio Display would be sufficient enough to tide things over if its webcam wasn't so awful. No idea how they screwed that up so badly. Even the MacBooks that came out before it have better webcams with 1/10th of the space that the Studio Display has.
 
Honestly, the bottom charging port isn't that bad in real usage, as battery life is good enough that the mouse only has to emulate a deceased rodent once in a long while. The low front and back edges would also have to go—or get a notch!—if the port were to move from the underside. I'd rather they toss in a few more gestures, like (a somewhat-cramped) pinch-to-zoom.
The rechargeable version is great and the battery lasts a long time, which always has me getting a notification generally at the beginning of a work day so will not make it through without charging. You do get a quick charge to get through the day. I generally just switch to the magic track pad and charge up to full so I can repeat this process again when the battery gets to the end. Would love wireless charging for the mouse, just set it down on a wireless pad or back of iPhone or on the MacBook.
 
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And? What's the problem? Does everyone need every single product to be brand new and different every year? Who cares if it's 1000 or 5000 days on the market?
Really depends on the product and whether better tech is now available. AirPods, HomePod etc. will need replacing if/when there are new audio formats they can't support or some major advance in speaker design... The only beef with Airpods Max seems to be that they still use Lightning - but then Apple only started moving iPhones to Lightning last year, so that's hardly overdue (c.f. the Magic peripherals, which are principally for Macs that have never had Lightning and were launched after Apple started adopting USB-C).

This article seems a bit "so what?" - there have been worse cases in the past - pretty much every incarnation of the Mac Pro, the 2014 Mac Mini, the iMac Pro continued long after better tech was available - even in other Macs, let alone the industry as a whole.

To the AirPort idea, I will add in Time Capsule. Yes, I know there are other devices to use for Time Machine, but it was a slick device to encourage users to keep good backups.
I think that the reason Apple dropped AirPort and Time Capsule is that they no longer have anything distinctive to offer - when they first appeared, WiFi on other systems was a bit of a dumpster fire to use, and Mac file sharing really worked best with AFP rather than Windows' SMB protocol. However, the Mac had to - and did - evolve to be able to work seamlessly with regular WiFi routers and SMB file servers... and thrid party routers/servers evolved to have point'n'drool web interfaces, so there's really nothing left for which Apple can charge a premium.

Yes, but inflation is constantly eating away at the value of money, so the $549 now is actually less in value than it was 1360 days ago. That's economics :)
That depends whether you're looking at IT costs as a proportion of your total income as a matter of historical curiosity or comparison shopping between different IT equipment options available right now.

Inflation is a very crude 'average' measure that has never really applied to the IT market. The expectation, developed over the last 50 years, is that as time passes you will get significantly more powerful hardware every year or so without seeing much change in the sticker price. (e.g. the dollar price of a base iMac is the same today as it was in 1998) Also - for any supplier other than Apple - it is pretty common for the "street price" of a tech product to rapidly drop to a fraction of the original "list price" as time passes. (E.g. the Samsung 5k display, which frequently gets plugged on this site).

If you look at something like the Pro XDR display, it can only justify its price because you can count the competing products on the fingers of one foot. Dell have a couple of competitors - a ~$2500 6k display and a ~$4000 8k display, neither of which AFAIK have the XDR's local dimming features - and I'm not sure if th 8k is even Mac compatible since it neads two DisplayPort cables (and, in any case, more isn't always better, because 6k@32" hits the MacOS UI's 220ppi "sweet spot").

A far more egregious case from the past was the 2010-2016 27" 1440p Cinema/Thunderbolt display, that never saw a price cut - when it came out, 1440p was bleeding edge, but by 2014 there were plenty of cheaper 1440p displays around and even Apple was shipping 5k screens in iMacs for the cost of a Thunderbolt display + Mac Mini. (To add insult to injury, ISTR the original non-TB Cinema version stayed on the market for years at the same price as the TB version that appeared a year later... Everymac has it discontinued in 2011, but I'm pretty sure it stayed at least until the 2013 Trashcan came out, as it was the only Apple option for the tower Mac Pro).
 
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Can MacRumors also make a list of products that are still sold today with no or minimal design changes? Like the Mac mini, iPhone, Apple Watch, etc?
Do you want them to make your grocery list for you too?
 
That depends whether you're looking at IT costs as a proportion of your total income as a matter of historical curiosity or comparison shopping between different IT equipment options available right now.

Inflation is a very crude 'average' measure that has never really applied to the IT market. The expectation, developed over the last 50 years, is that as time passes you will get significantly more powerful hardware every year or so without seeing much change in the sticker price. (e.g. the dollar price of a base iMac is the same today as it was in 1998) Also - for any supplier other than Apple - it is pretty common for the "street price" of a tech product to rapidly drop to a fraction of the original "list price" as time passes. (E.g. the Samsung 5k display, which frequently gets plugged on this site).

I understand. However, considering there are countless options to the AirPods Max, "4 years between updates without price decreases" seems to be entirely Apple's problem and not the consumer's by your own admission?
 
Honestly, the bottom charging port isn't that bad in real usage, as battery life is good enough that the mouse only has to emulate a deceased rodent once in a long while.

Now, personally, I'd rather chew my hand off than use a Tragic Mouse for 5 minutes (and I've tried - the mouse, that is, not self-mutilation!) and the gestures feel like trying to perform a Vulcan salute - but I'm happy to file those under "subjective" - but the charging arrangement is still, objectively, not great for such an expensive mouse.

I use a Logitech mouse with a sensibly positioned port - and it still runs for weeks on a charge, but when it does run out (inevitably in the middle of doing something) you just hook up the cable and go on working while the mouse gets a full charge that will keep it going for another couple of weeks - not a quickie top up that will run out in the middle of the next working day.

There's no downside - it doesn't reduce the battery life, you can still do a quickie top up and recharge overnight if the idea of using a wired mouse for an hour fills you with horror - you just get the option of being back up and running in seconds if the battery dies mid-job.

The only reason the Tragic Mouse is the way it is is that Apple put the absolute minimum design/re-tooling effort into turning the AA-powered original into a rechargeable.

It also rules out one of the "plus" features of the Magic Keyboard/Trackpad - when they're plugged into a Mac they actually work as wired peripherals, a useful fallback if you're having Bluetooth interference issues.
 
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This one seemingly is also still sold but it has been out of stock for quite a long time
 
Honestly, the bottom charging port isn't that bad in real usage, as battery life is good enough that the mouse only has to emulate a deceased rodent once in a long while. The low front and back edges would also have to go—or get a notch!—if the port were to move from the underside. I'd rather they toss in a few more gestures, like (a somewhat-cramped) pinch-to-zoom.
What baffles me is not the placement of the port, but that MacOS doesn’t come up with a notification that I should charge my mouse soon. If there was a reminder when it was at, say, 20%, I could just charge it when I am done for the day. Instead, it is working, working, working, working, OH MY GOD I NEED TO BE CHARGED NOW PLEASE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!

(Please educate me if this has been updated since I last used it several years ago).
 
This one seemingly is also still sold but it has been out of stock for quite a long time
Recent news was that it is discontinued, but apparently there hasn’t been an official statement (which Apple normally don’t do)
 
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I understand. However, considering there are countless options to the AirPods Max, "4 years between updates without price decreases" seems to be entirely Apple's problem and not the consumer's by your own admission?
I don't know... what's changed in the wireless over-ear headphone market since Airpods Max were released? Even back then you could pay anything from $30 to $1000 (probably) for wireless headphones. Then there's the question of "audio quality" which, once you're paying over about $200 is... well, "subjective" doesn't begin to cover it!

My point is that whether "no updates/no price decrease" is a problem depends on the nature of the product and how the "state of the art" has changed.

I guess "more expensive than Dyson" is the kiss of death, though :)
 
And? What's the problem? Does everyone need every single product to be brand new and different every year? Who cares if it's 1000 or 5000 days on the market?
The Airpods Max one is annoying because it's one of the few remaining products they haven't updated to USB-C. I have wanted to buy a pair for the last year or so, but having one thing in my setup that needs a lightning cable would just be annoying.

It's especially annoying that the rumours imply there aren't even any additional updates. They're literally just gonna change the cable port and nothing else, so what is the holdup? Maybe they're struggling to shift Lightning Port stock, because actual potential customers like me don't want them.
 
What baffles me is not the placement of the port, but that MacOS doesn’t come up with a notification that I should charge my mouse soon. If there was a reminder when it was at, say, 20%, I could just charge it when I am done for the day. Instead, it is working, working, working, working, OH MY GOD I NEED TO BE CHARGED NOW PLEASE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!

(Please educate me if this has been updated since I last used it several years ago).
That was my experience as well. I switched to a plain old wired mouse and have never been told to stop everything and charge my mouse ever since.


Apple still sells the M1 MBA at least through Walmart.
The list is for current Apple products, not older ones still being manufactured or sold at a lower price.
 
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Hmmm... what would be the point of that? So we could all bash Apple even more than we already do around here?
When reality is written it’s easier to see. The bashing has a reason. It doesn’t come unfounded from nowhere. To solve the bashing, Apple has to solve the reason 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
The Airpods Max one is annoying because it's one of the few remaining products they haven't updated to USB-C. I have wanted to buy a pair for the last year or so, but having one thing in my setup that needs a lightning cable would just be annoying.

It's especially annoying that the rumours imply there aren't even any additional updates. They're literally just gonna change the cable port and nothing else, so what is the holdup? Maybe they're struggling to shift Lightning Port stock, because actual potential customers like me don't want them.
Yea i see your point. Only disagree on that usbc hype though. I prefer Lightning over usbc so much. Lightning is reliable, nice and simple and does it's job very well. No need to have high transfer speeds or fast charging on periferies or wireless headphones. But soon there will be no choice so... whatever.

Personally I wouldn't pay too much attention to those rumors. We'll see very soon what Apple has in store for us 😊 It would be a bit disappointing if Apple would just re-release it with only a different port.
 
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The list is for current Apple products, not older ones still being manufactured or sold at a lower price.
Oh. Whoops. I went on the title alone lol. And I only skimmed to see the names of the 4-5 devices.
 
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and I still would not use another mouse. The mouse is not for everyone, but I have loved it from day one and anytime I have to use a regular mouse I immediately miss gestures on the Magic Mouse. They just need to fix that stupid bottom charging port.
I liked the idea of the gestures, but it always felt awkward to use them on the tiny curved surface, and I always ended up accidentally brushing the surface and accidentally scrolling when trying to hold it. It always felt like gestures were better-suited for a Macbook
 
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