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I just wrote 2028 & 2030. Was I not that clear?
I guess this goes against those people that think that suddenly the intel platform support will be immediately dropped from MacOS major updates because the transition to AS Macs is now complete. :D

Never mind the huge numbers of intel platform used by the Mac community that expects to do their work as usual in spite of that fact.

Business/education/consumer with vested software purchases or annual subscription to specialized software that only runs on intel platform would be offended if there wasn't ample warning by Apple for sure.
 
I guess this goes against those people that think that suddenly the intel platform support will be immediately dropped because the transition to AS Macs is now complete. :D

Never mind the huge numbers of intel platform used by the Mac community that expects to do their work as usual in spite of that fact.

Business/education/consumer with vested software purchases or annual subscription to specialized software that only runs on intel platform would be offended if there wasn't ample warning by Apple for sure.
I think they're looking for any excuse to e-waste and buy any 2023 Mac.

Although the keyboards of 2015-2019 Mac laptops are prone to fail but as far as macOS Support goes they're secure until year 2025-2029.

If your use case hardly change I see no reason not to keep them for at most a decade.

Beyond that I'd do preventive maintenance and replace with that year's Mac.
 
I have multiple Intel Macs that have those timelines of 8 years Software Updates + 2 years additional Security Updates.

Apple observed their users to replace every 4 years while Intel every 5-6 years.

When your use case remains unchanged then I'd keep the computer for a decade.

Beyond that then I'd consider making it a hand me down or selling it for a basis for down payment for a new computer that will service you for another decade. I consider this a form of preventive maintenance.

Given your situation you are best to make that determination.
Indeed, this is my experience too. I have a mid-2014 15-inch MBP for which Apple released last month the version 11.7.7 of macOS Big Sur. A complete software update, not just security update. Hopefully, this machine, still plenty fast for everything I am doing on it, will receive security updates for one or two more years.
 
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Indeed, this is my experience too. I have a mid-2014 15-inch MBP for which Apple released last month the version 11.7.7 of macOS Big Sur. A complete software update, not just security update. Hopefully, this machine, still plenty fast for everything I am doing on it, will receive security updates for one or two more years.
Macs, Windows, iPhones, Android, etc are so feature-rich that we are beyond feature bloat.

So macOS having 2 more years of Security Updates is really what is important considering identity theft is a big deal issue.
 
Macs, Windows, iPhones, Android, etc are so feature-rich that we are beyond feature bloat.

So macOS having 2 more years of Security Updates is really what is important considering identity theft is a big deal issue.
Exactly. I could live without new features for a very long time, but I would stop immediately surfing the internet with a machine for which there are no security updates anymore.
 
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No joke... not "like night to day"?
Qualification that one person's 'night and day' is another person's 'incremental', but I'd also say incremental. A decade being long enough for 'night and day' differences ended in 1995 for me when I compared Windows 95 to DOS 3. Since then, it's all been incremental IMO, because the technology has matured. I could go back to using Windows 95 tomorrow if it was updated to run the latest browsers and current apps (which technically means it wouldn't be Win95 anymore, but you catch my drift).
 
I thought it will be worse; still with an intel 16" MBP than excluding the heat I feel sometimes coming from it, it's perfectly fine for what I do. Do I want an m2 max? Absolutely but haven't been able to justify it yet.
I LOVE my INTEL 2019 16" MBP and I have owned an M1 Air which I sold and I own a M2 Pro Mini as well.
There are a few things that the intel can't do (these features included) but there are thousands of things the M1/M2's can't do ...
Low power mode fixes the heat for lap use and it's still a powerful beast.
Windows on Bootcamp for gaming and unlock undervolting by overwriting the video bios in the registry and it will game like a champ as well, or plug in an external GPU enclosure!!
Competition is great for everyone, I just wish Apple had kept an intel line going for us developers who need proper X86/64, I keep running in to libraries that don't work while cross platform developing using dotnet core etc. it's just a faff at the moment!
 
I LOVE my INTEL 2019 16" MBP and I have owned an M1 Air which I sold and I own a M2 Pro Mini as well.
There are a few things that the intel can't do (these features included) but there are thousands of things the M1/M2's can't do ...
Low power mode fixes the heat for lap use and it's still a powerful beast.
Windows on Bootcamp for gaming and unlock undervolting by overwriting the video bios in the registry and it will game like a champ as well, or plug in an external GPU enclosure!!
Competition is great for everyone, I just wish Apple had kept an intel line going for us developers who need proper X86/64, I keep running in to libraries that don't work while cross platform developing using dotnet core etc. it's just a faff at the moment!
The good thing with Apple transitioning to Apple Silicon is that the last Intel Macs are great value to buy off of eBay, garage sales and on MR.

Although I wished I stopped buying any Macs by 2014 then resume in 2020.
 
I hope it's not that quick. That would make me think twice about buying any more Apple devices.
That's how I feel after they discontinued OS support for my high end Macbook Pro 2016 so fast. It just doesn't feel like they really respect their users
 
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Supporting the many models of Intel based Macs via MacOS is related to how business/education/consumers continue to rely on older intel platform Macs that likely are tied to utilized software deployments that they have licensed. You can hardly see a iPod touch used by anyone in the same light, that was made obsolete because of iPhone usage, not because of a lack of a OS. :D
Tell that to the many point-of-sale system integrators that used iPod touch.
 

According to two decades' worth of Mac support data that we have compiled and analyzed, Apple has been dropping support for Intel Macs a bit more quickly in the Apple Silicon era than it was during the height of the Intel Mac era in the early- to mid-2010s. A Mac released between 2009 and 2015 could typically expect between seven and eight years of new macOS releases, but for Macs released in 2016 or 2017, that number is closer to six years.

Apple does provide older macOS releases with around two years of additional security-only updates after replacing them, so people with Macs stuck on macOS 12 Monterey or macOS 13 Ventura should still get Safari updates and patches for the most severe security vulnerabilities after Sonoma is released. For anyone still running macOS 11 Big Sur, the time has come to either upgrade your operating system, upgrade your hardware, or take your chances running without patches.
 
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For anyone still running macOS 11 Big Sur, the time has come to either upgrade your operating system, upgrade your hardware, or take your chances running without patches.
I am grateful they do not endorse OCLP as if they do they are opening themselves to blame if the end user ducks it up.

Another concern unmentioned in your quote would be possible hardware failure after a decade's daily use. Assuming you use your Mac an average of 8hrs/day for 3,650 days then it may be time for a total replacement.

Old Mac could be sold on MR or eBay so the sum can be used as downpayment for any M2 Mac that will have its final macOS Security Update by 2032.
 
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I am grateful they do not endorse OCLP as if they do they are opening themselves to blame if the end user ducks it up.

Another concern unmentioned in your quote would be possible hardware failure after a decade's daily use. Assuming you use your Mac an average of 8hrs/day for 3,650 days then it may be time for a total replacement.

Old Mac could be sold on MR or eBay so the sum can be used as downpayment for any M2 Mac that will have its final macOS Security Update by 2032.
OCLP has literally never worked for me and I’m fairly confident with what I am doing. Miss DosDude’s patches.
 
GAME MODE? LOL! Everyone knows Macs do not game. There are no AAA games available for Macs that are not old. I know, I have had a lot of Macs and none played games well. Metro Exodus was the only one that was acceptable, the others I had were Apple Arcade games that were very basic in the graphics and processing department.

Apple makes a good phone and watch. Games on a Mac, even video editing suffers compared to a PC, note I did not say an Instel Mac, but a PC. I have two high end PCs and they run circles around the Mac in video editing and gaming.

Sorry Apple, Macs are good for browsing and mail, but anything else?!? I remember the Motorola days, I had all the Macs in that era also and they were bad for programs and speed. They excelled in generating heat. The Intel move was the best move Apple ever made in their Macs. Using their own processors is a failure in my opinion.
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