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Call me old fashioned, but for me only keyboards with tactile feedback are to some degree usable keyboards (varying resulting in different keyboards where I just pick by personal preference)

Alpine has a touchscreen head unit for cars that utilizes some sort of electrical conduction to give feedback to touch screens. I've used it, and it's actually fairly interesting and useful.

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Only getting faster, slimer, cooler will not help to leave MS behind in the long run. Others will do faster, slimer, cooler etc. for less money (I agree that OSX is still somewhat better than all WINs, but not sooooo much better, Apple was in the past).

I agree with the point about slimmer computers. I really don't see what the absolutely-must-have need is for always something slimmer. Slimmer doesn't always = better IMO. If Apple could find a different way to cool things more efficiently besides a fan, I'd say go for it. But since fans are the norm now, thinner only seems to cause overheating issues. I really don't know why Apple keeps trying to go thinner and why consumers keep expecting it. A 1" MBP is plenty thin. I wouldn't mind if it was even a bit thicker if it would help resolve overheating issues.
 
heyy

does anyone else just want a macbook tht is a wee bit thinner than the one that is already out.

i dont want a fancy touch screen keyboard or anything

Also i want an internal disc drive

im probably as well buying teh current macbook

:apple:
 
heyy

does anyone else just want a macbook tht is a wee bit thinner than the one that is already out.

i dont want a fancy touch screen keyboard or anything

Also i want an internal disc drive

im probably as well buying teh current macbook

:apple:


I personally am very happy with the way my macbook looks. The thinner the more expensive it will get. Yes I know the new models will be out jan. 15th and will probably be thinner but my current macbook works great for me no matter how thick or thin it is. Its kind of like most americans don't we all wish we were a bit thinner. :)
 
Keep your eye out for the new 9" Apple Tablet with integrated touch screen keyboard, onboard optical drive & Flash memory, hardly any moving parts, comes with a dock so you can hook it up to an external monitor, keyboard & mouse. " Its just a rumor " ;)
 
suggestion

Hi,

this is my mockup concept suggestion of how an ultraflat multitouch
MacBook should or could look like.

It may be a little painful to type on the LED Multitouch HID in the first days,
but I think if we face the possiblities it would be very much worth it.

Imagine to simply swap your keyboard away with a finger, and slide in your
DJ mixer decks or your piano or whatever the application wants to.

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I also made a little fanart for the sig out of it, just in case that someone
likes it :)

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Very nice concept picture.

I think i'm in the market for a new 17" MBP and what are the chances that they may add a numeric pad at least to the 17" MBP. I know I use it quite frequently and feel lost when I take my notebook from using a external keyboard to using the keyboad on the notebook itself. It seems several manufaturers are adding the numeric pad to at least one of their 17" models.
 
You've all (well, maybe not all of you) gone from realistic ideas as to what could happen to totally going off the deep end with the ideas that sprung up in the later pages of this thread. I'm not saying they're bad or anything, but the chances of any of them happening are extremely slim to none.

Just my 0.02$,

David G.
 
Apple has to do something revolutionary about the user interface as it has done with the mouse or with WYSIWYG ages ago - or with the iPod and the iPhone.

<snip> Steve will have to speed up, creating a really new fool-proof interface concept and starting it on the 'pro' - product line. Technology is available nowadays.

Have you seen http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/forget-about-the-mouse-use-your-hands-with-the-zcam-from-3dv/
DEpth perception and 3d image creation from what is in effect a usb 2 webcam.

I think the Wii has softened up the market for using other UIs, alongside the iPhone. Apple I believe is going to run with this, with Windows Mobile 7 snapping at its heels.

Which will win over? Voice, touch, physical gesture? Id go with a mixture, with touch first, voice there for car integration (music / phone calls ?(or even long trips you could get your emails read to you? via voice recognition to traverse the menus?). Physical gestures will follow on rapidly (and i imagine it'll get snapped up very rapidly by Nintendo).

After the iPhone, Apple could scale up a device any size screen (1 inch to say 30 inches or more) in a similar fashion. The art is in making a range of products with only a few in the range for simplicity.
 
xtraa, see posts 193-195.

Aah thanks and ...wow! These are some real good ideas, I really like them. :)

You've all (well, maybe not all of you) gone from realistic ideas as to what could happen to totally going off the deep end with the ideas that sprung up in the later pages of this thread. I'm not saying they're bad or anything, but the chances of any of them happening are extremely slim to none.

Personally I think the multitouch is just straight to Apples iphone design
concept and it could be a possible or consequent way to enhance the HID
device as we know it. I mean the possibilities would take the whole thing to a complete new level.
 
Obviously the keyboard section of your concept comes from here…

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/

I am too lazy to search for the posts, but Apple has patents in on this very idea…

Yup, I think eveyone knows the optimus keyboard, since it is around for about
a year now.

The difference is just to have it integrated in a notebook, without switching to
the Tablet-PC mono concept. Imho no one wants to type where he looks at.
 
I think the optimus keyboard was a bit too far fetched when it was conceived. It's nice, but very impractical for the price, hence the reason MT would take off if put into a keyboard.

As for the black book photo at the bottom, it's nice and it looks like a 17" model due to the extended keyboard. It would buy it because it's different, but I am hoping for a real keyboard and MT trackpad. And I am hoping for a slightly thicker case design to allow for the bigger professional parts that NEED to be in the next 17" model.

p.s. that design looks an awful lot like the Sony Vaio models as well.
 

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everyone keeps posting things with the touchpad on the keyboard, but this is not that good of an idea. the nice part about the iphone is that u see where your fingers are pressing, so its better response. if the touch pad was on the keyboard, it would mean that you could not be as accurate with the touches. this is why i dont like a keyboard "mounted" touchpad
 
everyone keeps posting things with the touchpad on the keyboard, but this is not that good of an idea. the nice part about the iphone is that u see where your fingers are pressing, so its better response. if the touch pad was on the keyboard, it would mean that you could not be as accurate with the touches. this is why i dont like a keyboard "mounted" touchpad

I agree, but there are some people out there that just don't get it, and would rather have some cool Star Trek looking laptop instead of one that worked. They will claim that the keyboard can shock you to give you tactile feedback or there could be humps underneath of it but none of those will substitute for a real keyboard, none are as effective either.

Honestly, the only breakthrough that Apple better put in the MBPs had better be between dual HDD slots 17", more FW ports, a redesigned case, and/or a multi-touch trackpad for the gadget fans.
 
I agree, but there are some people out there that just don't get it, and would rather have some cool Star Trek looking laptop instead of one that worked. They will claim that the keyboard can shock you to give you tactile feedback or there could be humps underneath of it but none of those will substitute for a real keyboard, none are as effective either.

Honestly, the only breakthrough that Apple better put in the MBPs had better be between dual HDD slots 17", more FW ports, a redesigned case, and/or a multi-touch trackpad for the gadget fans.

that would be some good update. im not in the market for a new laptop currently, im fine with my blackBook. but it would be cool seeing some of that stuff
 
Going beyond touch

Has anyone checked out the CES's zcam? If this is real, and working. It's cool as hell (Alienware monitor cool). Think a webcam which has depth perception (like a topographical map) of whats in front of it at 50 fps. then adds on physical body gesture recognition.

The video tells it all:
The Wii without the remote, Minority Report without the gloves:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/zcam-dep...and-minority-report-without-gloves-334426.php

So we're used to integrated iSights, right? If the guys' demo is fully capable for market at that level, if I was a VC i'd snap these guys right up, and patent to the hilt. Voice is a while away, this is <a year away from beta/gaming beta.

"The camera has sensors that are able to measure the depth for each of the captured pixels using a principle called Time-Of-Flight. It gets 3D information "by emitting pulses of infra-red light to all objects in the scene and sensing the reflected light from the surface of each object." The objects in the scene are then ordered in layers in the Z axis, which gives you a grayscale depth map that a game or any software application can use.

According to manufacturer 3DV Systems, the depth resolution is quite good: it can detect 3D motion and volume down to 0.4 inches, capturing at the same time full color, 1.3 megapixel video at 60 frames per second. While there have been professional cameras with depth capture in the past, this is the first time that a device of such characteristics is cheap enough to be built into any game system or computer."

Green screen without the green. Kinematics. Think Wii boxing a metre apart head to head with a friend. Instead of an expensive remote, you could use some cheap as chips plastic dummy handset/racing wheel/boxing gloves..
 
Has anyone checked out the CES's zcam? If this is real, and working. It's cool as hell (Alienware monitor cool). Think a webcam which has depth perception (like a topographical map) of whats in front of it at 50 fps. then adds on physical body gesture recognition.

The video tells it all:
The Wii without the remote, Minority Report without the gloves:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/zcam-dep...and-minority-report-without-gloves-334426.php

So we're used to integrated iSights, right? If the guys' demo is fully capable for market at that level, if I was a VC i'd snap these guys right up, and patent to the hilt. Voice is a while away, this is <a year away from beta/gaming beta.

"The camera has sensors that are able to measure the depth for each of the captured pixels using a principle called Time-Of-Flight. It gets 3D information "by emitting pulses of infra-red light to all objects in the scene and sensing the reflected light from the surface of each object." The objects in the scene are then ordered in layers in the Z axis, which gives you a grayscale depth map that a game or any software application can use.

According to manufacturer 3DV Systems, the depth resolution is quite good: it can detect 3D motion and volume down to 0.4 inches, capturing at the same time full color, 1.3 megapixel video at 60 frames per second. While there have been professional cameras with depth capture in the past, this is the first time that a device of such characteristics is cheap enough to be built into any game system or computer."

Green screen without the green. Kinematics. Think Wii boxing a metre apart head to head with a friend. Instead of an expensive remote, you could use some cheap as chips plastic dummy handset/racing wheel/boxing gloves..

Very cool. I can see Microsoft and other PC vendors utilizing this first, at a very expensive price point, then Apple may intro a more practical version. I can't see people using that type of UI in a crowded coffee shop. Students dancing around like fools rushing to finish their term papers in a computer lab.
 
Very cool. I can see Microsoft and other PC vendors utilizing this first, at a very expensive price point, then Apple may intro a more practical version. I can't see people using that type of UI in a crowded coffee shop. Students dancing around like fools rushing to finish their term papers in a computer lab.

Think also games arcades, fplaces that already have those hydraulic flight simulators. They could sync this to medical uses (think keyhole surgery practicals for med students) . and that's not even starting to think about Defense budgets...
The thing baout the UI is that you can use a slice of air around you - e.g. 1ft to 2ft away fromthe camera, 2 ft wide 2 ft tall. So it doesn't get any erroneous info from the people behind you etc.

i'd put down a fiver to play boxing/ fighter pilot playing if they hooked this to a PS3!
 
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