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Reduction of the 100 devices per developer, some are abusing this for their own greed.

What do you mean by this? Apple openly advertises the "ad-hoc" scheme (actually a distinct entity from their separately advertised "enterprise" scheme) as a means for software to see limited distribution outside the App Store ecosystem. How exactly it is "abusing" the system if developers choose to do exactly that?
 
It doesnt lower mine, but a 3rd party app virus could lower yours :eek:

The "hacks" are incredibly valuable to Apple. They are the testing ground for newer and better functionality. The "App Store", as simple a concept as it is, was ripped off directly from Installer.app, right down to the icon.

Apple could break most jailbreaks at anytime if they wished. They choose not to, as it provides for a TREMENDOUS amount of R & D that they don't have to pay for. Its devs with waaaay too much time on their hands, so much so that they program for a cutting edge platform, for free. Apple then takes their work, modifies to Apple standards, and then breaks the break and replaces its features.

Its positively brilliant.
 
What do you mean by this? Apple openly advertises the "ad-hoc" scheme (actually a distinct entity from their separately advertised "enterprise" scheme) as a means for software to see limited distribution outside the App Store ecosystem. How exactly it is "abusing" the system if developers choose to do exactly that?

Obviously for testing that is an advantage, but maybe a better way of managing those devices would be the better way to put it. As some devs are taking $$ for to add devices and as someone who tries to do things by the books its frustrating.
 
They choose not to, as it provides for a TREMENDOUS amount of R & D that they don't have to pay for.

I respect what your saying and I do think that what these devs can do is nothing short of amazing and isnt apples idea that great artists steal? But I think the real reason apple havent clamped down is because they are selling 17million devices.
 
The "hacks" are incredibly valuable to Apple. They are the testing ground for newer and better functionality. The "App Store", as simple a concept as it is, was ripped off directly from Installer.app, right down to the icon.

Apple could break most jailbreaks at anytime if they wished. They choose not to, as it provides for a TREMENDOUS amount of R & D that they don't have to pay for. Its devs with waaaay too much time on their hands, so much so that they program for a cutting edge platform, for free. Apple then takes their work, modifies to Apple standards, and then breaks the break and replaces its features.

Its positively brilliant.
I didn't know it worked that way. That is really interesting.
 
Apple could break most jailbreaks at anytime if they wished. They choose not to, as it provides for a TREMENDOUS amount of R & D that they don't have to pay for. Its devs with waaaay too much time on their hands, so much so that they program for a cutting edge platform, for free. Apple then takes their work, modifies to Apple standards, and then breaks the break and replaces its features.

Apple actually cannot break any jailbreak on any current device. Jailbreaking is done through a hardware exploit, so it is not something that can be disabled through any software.
 
Would like to see ability to remotely control the lawnmower from inside the house using bluetooth or WiFi.

If Apple can do that, I will buy 5 more iPhone 3Gs.
 
Apple actually cannot break any jailbreak on any current device. Jailbreaking is done through a hardware exploit, so it is not something that can be disabled through any software.

What if they changed iTunes so that you couldn't restore with custom firmwares anymore? They could update iTunes to do a signature check on every firmware update.
 
What if they changed iTunes so that you couldn't restore with custom firmwares anymore? They could update iTunes to do a signature check on every firmware update.

You don't need iTunes to load custom firmware. Quickpwn and Pwnage do all that is necessary. I suppose they could do some sort of test to check if it were jailbroken and then brick the phone, similar to what happened to people who updated to 3.0 before registering their UDIDs. Even if that happened, the dev team would eventually figure out a way around it.

Really the point I was making was that Apple can never stop jailbreaking, but once it's been done I agree, there may be other ways they can stop you from using the phone.
 
The "hacks" are incredibly valuable to Apple. They are the testing ground for newer and better functionality. The "App Store", as simple a concept as it is, was ripped off directly from Installer.app, right down to the icon.

Apple could break most jailbreaks at anytime if they wished. They choose not to, as it provides for a TREMENDOUS amount of R & D that they don't have to pay for. Its devs with waaaay too much time on their hands, so much so that they program for a cutting edge platform, for free. Apple then takes their work, modifies to Apple standards, and then breaks the break and replaces its features.

Its positively brilliant.

You do know that you are spouting provably-incorrect, paranoid gibberish, don't you?
 
You do know that you are spouting provably-incorrect, paranoid gibberish, don't you?
He is actually on the right track. Its called business. You can't deny that Apple doesnt look at the architecture of the jailbroken phones to build base models. Its a mixture of r&d and business.
 
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