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Think of all the apps with buttons along the top that would be blocked by a notch.

If the menu bar is visible while apps are full screen, I want the opton to turn it off. It would then be a black bar. Wiith mini-LED, it would be as dark as my current bezel, although not even width around the screen. That said, the menu bar is pretty skinny....
 
Jorbanead said:
Apple has one of the best UI teams on the planet. They paved the way for a ton of modern designs that all tech companies use today. Surely they tested a million and one ways the notch could be implemented. I’m sure one of the best UI teams in the word knows what they are doing.

It’s the same story every year. Apple does something people don’t fully understand and gets a ton of hate at first. Years later people see how it’s implemented and don’t even really think about it anymore.
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You might even say they are “top-notch.”
 
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My Logitech Brio webcam already gives my 32" BenQ monitor a notch (and without issue).
This isn't my photo, but the effect is the same.

If reducing the bezels to almost nothing and having a great FaceTime camera by way of a notch looks super cool, they'll do it. I certainly don't see Apple making any concessions for those who have a menu bar completely full. That is the edgiest of edge cases. Sometimes Apple makes a change purely for objective reasons, but that's rarely the case. It's some compromise of something that looks super cool in ads and novel enough to get customers excited and doesn't break most users' workflows.

And we've had close to the same MBP design since 2008. It's time for some drastic changes across the line and this feels like a good opportunity. Either way, we're about to find out.

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zakarhino said:
You are. You're missing the most obvious solution: Apple will make either sides of the notch black (this will look acceptable with mini-LED I'm guessing) and put menu bar items up there along with widgets/notifications/or something else. Essentially everything below the notch area will operate as 'the screen' just like you're used to, so when an app goes full screen the top of the full screen window doesn't go above the bottom of the notch. Right now going full screen causes the menu bar to hide itself to get maximum content real estate; with the notch it won't have to, it can use up the same 16:10 space it currently does on MBP but it won't have to hide the menu bar -- for that reason I actually consider the notch to be a huge win.


Current: Big top bezel, lots of wasted space. Less space on the main screen without hiding the menu bar which is a nuisance and defeats the purpose of having live informational data on the menu bar (WiFi status, music controls, Little Snitch, etc.)

What the anti MBP notch crowd want: No notch, keep the big top bezel. Essentially keep everything the way it is. The people that have to hide the menu bar to get more real estate will continue to have to do so.

Hypothetical notch scenario: No huge top bezels, imagine your current MacBook Pro except the wasted space either side of the camera now has permanent menu bar stuff so you get the benefits of hiding the menu bar on a current Mac without having to actually hide the menu bar. It's not that the notch is cutting into your content, it's that the area around the camera is being reclaimed to serve a purpose and solve a problem.

If Apple do that ^ I think the notch will actually be a huge win for the crowd of people that want maximum real estate without the current compromise of hiding the menu bar.

For the crowd worried about Linux/Windows native booting compatibility, Apple can probably create a kernel level workaround that only activates the screen area below the touch bar when booting into an alternative OS (like how the touch bar shows function buttons when you boot up Windows). If they don't do that on Linux then it's not like Linux doesn't already require three million drivers to get Apple devices to work so I imagine someone will create a fix for it quickly.
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How about simply making the bezels as thin as the iPad Pro. And the iPad Pro even has Face ID. The notch is BS. Look at the iPad Pro.
 
UBS28 said:
It is not worth it. The iPad Pro has even Face ID and no notch. It has an amazing design with thin bezels.
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I just realized I confuse FaceTime with FaceID.... my head is spinning with all the details... really.. with a notch, it should have FaceID.
 
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