I have a 1.5 year old Windows 8 HP computer that is already freezing and all conbobulated. AVG does not find any virus, but I swear something weird is going on. DVD player won't play, and I paid Staples to install a new one which quit. I think something is wrong with the motherboard. Big Sigh. Anyway, I am so sick of Windows 8 and Hewlett Packard. I thought I would try to find a Dell windows 7, or buy a Mac. I have been researching, and I am afraid the Macbook Pro is the one I want. Of course, because it is so expensive, lol. But I thought I may need opinions from Mac users on which Mac might be best for me. Seems that Mac's don't have DVD players on them, though. Why is that? I really want a laptop rather than a desktop or tablet type. I want durable, stable and fast. I'm online a lot, shopping, researching and on Facebook and various forums. I use Adobe elements for my photography. And, of course, I want it to last awhile. I just can't pay $2500. So I am wondering if I am aiming too high, do I look for a refurbished one, or will I be sorry if I don't hock my first child to get what I think I want. Which raises my next question; where is the best place to look? Any opinion or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.