My real question how you're even bothering to edit massive video files on a 4gb maxed ram machine. Seems incredibly ridiculous to me.
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My real question how you're even bothering to edit massive video files on a 4gb maxed ram machine. Seems incredibly ridiculous to me.
Well, it has 8GB ;-)
2 months on location, moving every 2-3 days, that's why I bother. Premiere actually manages to play back and do straight edits at 1/8 resolution of 4K footage from my RED EPIC with out transcode. So the MBP is a very handy tool to look through dailies and do rough cuts.
I also need a laptop to do the backing up of footage to different hard drives after every days shoot
This is where a MBP is at its best, a real production house in a very small package. If they make it Air like it looses much of its flexibility.
(The real editing and transcoding, grading etc is done on a mac pro back home, but usually I don't do the edits)
So what looks incredibly ridiculous to you, seems perfectly fine to some one that makes a living off their laptop (among other gear).
I hope this helps to put things into perspective for you
There r things called adaptors, u know; usb3 and TB will work just fine in terms of bandwidth & latency
Yes , let's hope so. It's a bit silly getting caught up in arguing about fictional features, or the lack of.,,
But with the lack of any real news, that's how it goes sometimes
But with the lack of any real news, that's how it goes sometimes
The ir certainly has its place, but there r issues such as non-upg4adable memory, lim storage, slow ULV processors and a number of other compromises.
The lack of optical drv, firewire, LAN, and other ports is not really any compromise on specs at all. They are all woefully outdated standards for peripherals, and really belong in a museum. If anyone actually needs them, they should just get some readily available adaptors. You can't just jack a 35w microprocessor inside the air, or put in a 2.5" drive, but you can certainly use adaptors to maintain compatibility with legacy tech.
What is "lim storage"? If this is some TXT shorthand, please use the full name here.
As I'm told time and again that I'm in a very small minority that uses all the ports on my Pro, I would be interested to know what the majority do with their Pros that make the different ports obsolete (and that can't de done on an Air) Don't people attach anything?
Like neilpryde said, it means limited. Its not THAT hard to figure out. Txt and leet is a virtue, not a vice.
The majority of people need a MBP because the standard hardware in the air is insufficient for the types of SW that they need to run, in terms of the cpu, ram, storage, and other specs. It has little or nothing to do with any ports and such.
I have nver actually seen anyone use a firewire port in real life, it seems to have been end of life more than 5 yrs ago. The optical drive is going away, especially since apple doesn't really want to adopt blueray. Most people today stream from netflix and such, very few, if any, still watch dvd on a regular basis. DVD has had a great run, but really is no longer a viable technology for this decade, its time to ditch the drive (prob should have done that in 2008). I don't get why people need ethernet either, why use LAN whe u have 802.11n basestation, and can transfer files way faster thru an external TB drive than any networking would offer, if someone really needs the speed (a small monority to begin with).
There are always ppl whp refuse change, and want to hold onto thing from the bygone era. Its more of a reflection of their own lack of adaptability and personality traits rather than a real need in the market. There is nothing that needs FW, LAN, optical drv today that does not already have superior replacement already on the market. Its just that some people refuse to see them, and continue to bury their heads in thr sand.....
True, but they are just appealing to the vast majority, who dont really need all that excess...
My son is in the music editing biz and all of his colleagues uses Firewire in one form or another. Same with my Mac using professional video buddies who buys nothing but firewire hard disks. Just because you don't see people using Firewire doesn't mean people are not using it.
Thunderbolt is still too pricey to be practical for most professionals. I agree though that eventually Firewire will fade with USB 3 coming to most Macs and Thunderbolt peripherals becoming cheaper in the near future. However, at the moment, Firewire is here to stay.
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The Apollo from UAD currently has a FW port but there is supposedly going to be a thunderbolt card released for it. THAT has me excited. Until then (and until I can afford to throw down 2500 for an audio interface I will just be saving up for the FW alternative made by MOTU. (828 mk3)
so how many ppl in the real world r actually music editors?
Basically u r saying that there r a few extreme corner cases of ppl w/ some odd profession or another that might possibly need a FW port. I can't think of a better case study 4 moving it 2 legacy status and make these ppl use dongles, instead of forcing the 99.5% of all ppl who use notebooks to b stuck with a piece of legacy tech, and eye sore, and a mechanism that forces the designer's hand on the size and weight of the device.
I think ur testimony is 1 of the best pieces of evidence yet that Apple needs 2 drop all FW ports on their product lines. When the only example that ppl here r able come up w/ r those that use them 4 prof video editing.
You, are, one...Jesus there is a reason we use these conventions so our text isn't painful to read.
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Well, I usually visit thes forums with my phone, and walking on the street, so typing out every single word is at times a luxury.
This has to be one of the most absurd arguments I've ever heard. A FireWire port is an eye sore? That's just plain silly. Between the 'u' and 'r' short hand and such ridiculous suggestions, I couldn't take anything you said seriously after that. It takes up almost no room on a computer and Apple's notebooks are looking more and more like iPads enough as it is (enough with the overly thin computers; I want a notebook, not a netbook).
Thunderbolt drives are still too expensive. USB3 can cover drives, but I guess I must be one of those extreme cases since I use Firewire on my Macbook Pro for audio input for Logic Pro. A dongle is not a very good solution as it would likely involve some form of emulation which may not be fully compatible or an outboard box (in Thunderbolt's case) that is overly expensive and just that much less portable. These are supposed to be Macbook PROs (professional), not consumer garbage that has next to nothing on-board. If I wanted an iPad, I would have bought an iPad. Similarly, if I wanted a Netbook, I'd buy one. I bought a Macbook Pro precisely because I wanted to run Pro Apps like Final Cut Pro and Logic Studio.
By the way, if you don't have time to use a real computer or at least be sitting while using a portable, do us both a favor and don't bother. You might walk into a car or a tree or something while trying to walk and text at the same time (let alone those crazy people that try to do it while driving and get themselves and often other innocents killed in the process). It's just not worth it (for you or anyone nearby).
fair enough, but it's painful to read.
You probably shouldn't text and walk anyway, you are missing out on all the pretty babes and a lamp post is always around the corner to hit.
The MBA is also not 15"
you try fitting that thunderbolt cable around the 15". It won't reach.