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It wasn't until I listed to last week's ATP when I found out using the case disabled Find My faster than without the case.

If it was me, and I wanted to use Find My as a replacement for something like Tile, I wouldn't want my headphones, when traveling, to disable Find My.
I'd want to do something to ensure while out and about, espically when I haven't used them in a while, to keep Find My enabled for as long as possible in case they get dropped outside my bag or stolen by someone who knows what they are worth.
1. how do you know find my won’t drain battery like crazy
2. this is where airtags come in
 
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No one has to rush out and do anything LOL! Mine are working just fine without anything but the smart case.

“I hope Apple views this (the case) as a failure and stops simply using aesthetics instead of function.”

According to the case designers function was the driving factor as they wanted it to take up as little room as possible and it does take up less room than any other over the ear headphones case I’ve ever seen.

Don’t hate.
When somebody doesn’t like something Apple does they blame it on form over function assuming the reason it’s not the way they think it should be is because Apple employees were only concerned with aesthetics. In this case I find it amusing considering nearly everyone says the smart case is ugly.
 
It's not just about official Apple products and accessories. The Apple economy is a "make it yours" economy. In the accessory market, it is the one product you are assured everyone has accessories for, and the one you are almost guaranteed to find support for anywhere you go.

For me, my transition to Apple products from Android was probably accelerated by the fact that nobody made cool/fun stuff to customize my phones save a handful of vendors. Want a case for a Galaxy Nexus? Good luck. iPhone 4? Within a week, everyone had something.

The same is happening here. We're going to be flooded with smart cases esp. after manufacturing picks up in earnest after Chinese New Year. Cases will be branded specifically "Compatible with the Airpods Max". This is nothing but upside for Apple. That cheap headphone cover made out of extra material from the iPad cases builds its own marketing momentum.
Fair enough assertion. Makes perfect sense!
 
My cousin is an engineer at the Apple HQ and Apple certainly has their logo on some 3rd party accessories (non-electric). He has to test 3rd party accessories that would have to pass Apple certification in order to get the Apple approved logo. I'm using the wrong terminology but Apple certainly endorses select accessories.
If a manufacturer seeks an Apple logo, fine, but the case market is thriving without it.

Well the same could be said for the iPhone, iPad and Macbook. None of them come with cases and customers must buy their own. Nothing new here, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that Apple purposely didn't included an amazing case with their new cans in order to help the 3rd parties. If that's the case then like I said, nothing new. It's been like that for over 25 years.
As you can see in this thread, this is precisely my point.

Well I never called it anything.
Didn’t say you did. I was saying that MR members/consumers/humans (i.e. We) should think of the bare bones wrapper that accompanies AirPods Max as a cover, not a case.
 
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1. how do you know find my won’t drain battery like crazy
2. this is where airtags come in
If you never used the sleep magnets, the worst that can happen is you lose a few percent in a non-compatible case. Not the end of the world. Your phone/tablet/laptop does the heavy lifting work for "Find My". Your headphones just care whether or not it's connected to something. Any idle drain will just be from keeping the Bluetooth radio running, but BT is fairly power efficient in general.
 
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I like Waterfield, but that case is horrendous.
All some vendor needs to provide is a good demin case. I received those with headphones before and it was included! It could have been made from recycled denin also. (Black, Blue, Light Blue) yeah could have been made to match the headphone instead of that one color case.
 
It was a matter of time. Apple rarely fails on the design front but boy, when they do, they fail HARD.
Even if it's a design fail, it doesn't seem to have hurt sales at all. Neither has the price, esp. if people are now rushing to buy a wildly sold-out $99 aftermarket case, on top of the $549 cans.
 
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I can't think of any other time where Apple's customers had to rush out and create their own solution to solve a problem created by Apple. I hope Apple views this (the case) as a failure and stops with simply using aesthetics instead of function.
You speak as though everybody is going to use these headphones the way you would. I would imagine a lot of them are going to be used inside homes, and rarely/never leave those homes, and may never get put in their Apple-provided case.
 
If you never used the sleep magnets, the worst that can happen is you lose a few percent in a non-compatible case. Not the end of the world. Your phone/tablet/laptop does the heavy lifting work for "Find My". Your headphones just care whether or not it's connected to something. Any idle drain will just be from keeping the Bluetooth radio running, but BT is fairly power efficient in general.

The support doc says Find My stays active for 18 hours when in the case. Realistically, in 18 hours, you'll realize your headphones is missing.

It's possible Apple wants to target 1 charge per week for the avg user. Keeping it on constantly would miss that target.

BT is obviously low power, but the H1 chip itself could be using some power. This is especially true if it's doing the BT mesh for anonymous find my pings from other customers.
 
What few people around here understood (because after all, it’s more fun to be outraged) is that this is exactly what Apple planned from the beginning. Third party accessories are a rich part of the gizmo world and they deliberately left room for great cases made by other companies. It’s a good thing to support one’s accessory community. This is as true for AirPods Max as it is for nearly every other portable product Apple makes.
Exactly - but this is also where all this environmental BS falls to the ground. Apple knows and lives off exactly this accessory community, which creates tons of shipments, wrappings, docking stations and other extra gadgets, which could be avoided if the devices had a few more ports or came with the proper case to begin with.

But alas - that is how things work ... the typical Apple customer is one to whom personalization is important and this is good for accessory providers.
 
Exactly - but this is also where all this environmental BS falls to the ground. Apple knows and lives off exactly this accessory community, which creates tons of shipments, wrappings, docking stations and other extra gadgets, which could be avoided if the devices had a few more ports or came with the proper case to begin with.

But alas - that is how things work ... the typical Apple customer is one to whom personalization is important and this is good for accessory providers.
You think that instead of a “proper case” nobody would want a case with orange stripes, or polkadots, or fake gems, or real gems, or a handle on a different side, or two handles, or a belt hook, or a buckle instead of a zipper, or waterproof, or shockproof, or recharging, or, or, or...? There will be cases, regardless of what Apple makes, so they may as well go minimalist... to reduce environmental impact. ;)

You may not realize this, btw, but case customization is not the exclusive domain of Apple product owners.
 
Only Apple's billions in marketing can make this work.
Their billions they can afford to pay in marketing are available due to the large amount of money they make off of folks that buy their products. So, it would appear that there are a large number of folks that prefer products that are:

Hard to Use
Expensive
Not functional
Un-common sense? :)
and Ugly

These don’t ever need to have a large marketshare, just enough marketshare of folks with money to make it profitable.
 
"Nobody would buy a $99 case for $550 headphones..."

* Me checking the Waterfield site and seeing the the first 6 batches are already sold out in every color *

When will the "Nobody would buy..." or "Who's gonna buy..." crowd understand that just because they wouldn't buy these things doesn't mean there isn't a market?

The AirPods Max are selling. The 3rd party cases and stands will sell too.

There is clearly a market for it.
Very well said.
And actually, that hanger looks like a great idea. I’m actually digging it. Will be looking out for similar things more so than a case.

To the same “who would...”, “who in their right mind...”, etc crowd. The smart case itself, Im on the “I have nothing against the case” bandwagon... sure it’s not “aesthetic” but it’s definitely high quality materials and looks like it would last forever. And yes, it does the job.
 
I can't think of any other time where Apple's customers had to rush out and create their own solution to solve a problem created by Apple. I hope Apple views this (the case) as a failure and stops with simply using aesthetics instead of function.
Yes, except the Apple case skipped on the aesthetics this time as well.
 
I personally like what I saw presented with the Waterfield case. I will be purchasing one before I order my AirPods Max. Just what I was interested in with the right features and design to complement a premium product.
 
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