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Adding the third screen size to iOS lineup would be a very bad marketing move by Apple. It would deprive iOS fans of the sense of victimhood that so many Apple fans attain by buying into iOS ecosystem with its 2 screen sizes vs 57 sizes for Android.

That's why they aren't, tey care about what options their fans have to fight 57 sizes.
 
The screen ratio is great for that size.

Unlike the 7" Android tabs, the ratio for the 7.8 is great. It is perfect as a tv remote, game controller, as a business accessory , for teens and their games. To take with you to school. I printed it out and I thinks it a great size. It's the screen ratio that makes all the difference.
 
Unlike the 7" Android tabs, the ratio for the 7.8 is great. It is perfect as a tv remote, game controller, as a business accessory , for teens and their games. To take with you to school. I printed it out and I thinks it a great size. It's the screen ratio that makes all the difference.

10" is just as good to take to school.
 
Unlike the 7" Android tabs, the ratio for the 7.8 is great. It is perfect as a tv remote, game controller, as a business accessory , for teens and their games. To take with you to school. I printed it out and I thinks it a great size. It's the screen ratio that makes all the difference.

Touch screens (with no physical buttons) make for very lousy tv remotes and game controllers no matter what ratio. The only thing going for 4:3 ratio is that they are ideal for watching old SD movies. Then of course Android screens are better for HD material.
 
If apple were to make an iDevice with a smaller screen than an iPad, they have the iPod Touch category to fall back on. There are several good reason for them to build a seven to eight inch iDevice.

1. Lighter weight for children to handle.
2. Smaller screen for smaller hands
3. There is a huge demand for the K-12 market to be filled
4. The younger users are already iPod fans.
5. The current iPod Touch market could be highly stimulated with a larger device, whereas the iPad line would not gain such a surge, and would result in it fragmenting.
6. Apple has already nudged down the current iPod Touch pricing resulting in a gap for a mid-sized product to drop into.

Yes, I know that functionally such a mid-sized product could be considered just a smaller iPad, however Apple could position it through advertising as more of a kid through teen iDevice and the iPad more for "serious" usage.
 
Compete With A $199 Tablet? HA HA HA Um, no...

Mac Rumors keeps saying "it would be to compete with the Fire." Really? The Fire isn't selling because it's a great tablet... it's a good tablet that's cheap.
$199... of course it's selling. People can afford that that can't afford to drop $499. There is a market (and a small market) for smaller slates, and Apple would be foolish to see marketshare drift to those people. Smaller tablets have been and continue to be a commercial failure... unless you make them so cheap you can't say know (Hello Amazon!).

Yes, Jobs said they wouldn't do it... but like that's ever meant a thing coming out of his mouth before. They also once said they had no interest in the netbook or tablet space either, and feverishly denied they'd make anything like an iPad... four months later... oh, media event... oh, it's the iPad... and iBooks... just after jobs said people don't read anymore.

7.85" actually would be a nice bit of extra space compared to the 7" tablets that have been on the market though. That's pushing almost an extra inch, and would be a good size.

It comes down to price point in the end. Samsung's smaller Galaxy Tab is a joke. There is almost no incentive to buy it (the 10" is only like $50 more) unless you're someone who just wants the smaller size that bad.

If they threw it on the shelf at $399, I think that would be a bit of a Win.
And I also think this has less to do with Amazon's Fire, and more to do with competing evenly with Samsung.
 
Says who?

Says me and the whole history of TV remote control development where not a single serious company ever released a remote control without hard buttons. Even remotes with touch screens always had physical buttons for Volume +/- and Channel +/-. Touch screen paradigm just does no offer a good way for quick input. One needs to "activate" a touch screen first (it can't be held always ON because of battery life issues) and then start entering the commands. Also, touch screen works well when you touch what you are looking at. When you are staring at the TV screen (say, TV guide) and have to touch another screen to input the commands it feels very awkward.
 
I currently have a 7 inch Nook Color & a 10.1 inch Galaxy Tab, while the 7 inch Nook has been fun to play with & is an excellent reader, I've found I prefer the bigger screen size of the 10.1. The key thing for me is a really light, slim design. I have my Galaxy in a really light clip case & don't find it a hassle to carry with me in a messenger bag.

Now that I have a MBA, I'd be inclined to get a 9.6 inch ipad3 particularly if it's sporting a retina display.
 
That's why they aren't, tey care about what options their fans have to fight 57 sizes.

RIM offers 57 varieties of phones and it's a total mess. They thought having a phone for every niche was the way to go, and it's killing them. The highly fractured Android market is struggling with the same problem.

Apple's strategy, "Dominance with a few products," makes for high production/low cost manufacturing and allows the app developers to enjoy higher income per app. Having too many screen sizes is a negative at some point...adding one more size needs to be done carefully.
 
Says me and the whole history of TV remote control development where not a single serious company ever released a remote control without hard buttons. Even remotes with touch screens always had physical buttons for Volume +/- and Channel +/-. Touch screen paradigm just does no offer a good way for quick input. One needs to "activate" a touch screen first (it can't be held always ON because of battery life issues) and then start entering the commands. Also, touch screen works well when you touch what you are looking at. When you are staring at the TV screen (say, TV guide) and have to touch another screen to input the commands it feels very awkward.

What we need is tech similar to what MS uses in their kinekt system/ Simple gestures to make changes while viewing.
 
What we need is tech similar to what MS uses in their kinekt system/ Simple gestures to make changes while viewing.

Kinect is incapable of recognizing small gestures. With kinect, articulating with your arms, you'll get wasted by the time you finished scrolling through all your channels ;)
 
Kinect is incapable of recognizing small gestures. With kinect, articulating with your arms, you'll get wasted by the time you finished scrolling through all your channels ;)

"Tech similar to kinect".... Of course I am aware that kinect, in its current form cannot, do what I am proposing.
 
Touch screens (with no physical buttons) make for very lousy tv remotes and game controllers no matter what ratio. The only thing going for 4:3 ratio is that they are ideal for watching old SD movies. Then of course Android screens are better for HD material.

I strongly disagree. As a tv remote a person can be scanning channels and information without distracting or disturbing what's already playing. No more would someone's channel surfing be as upsetting. As a game controller it would be fantastic, Imagine the possibilities. Too many to even consider here.
Someone mentioned kids and their smaller hands. Smaller would mean lighter, less prone to breakage and hopefully cheaper.
But I think the biggest advantage over the Fire is the screen ratio. The screen ratio on the fire is too limiting as an all purpose device. The screen ratio for that Ipad would be it's biggest advantage over the fire and other elongated 7" devices.
 
I strongly disagree. As a tv remote a person can be scanning channels and information without distracting or disturbing what's already playing. No more would someone's channel surfing be as upsetting. As a game controller it would be fantastic, Imagine the possibilities. Too many to even consider here.
Someone mentioned kids and their smaller hands. Smaller would mean lighter, less prone to breakage and hopefully cheaper.
But I think the biggest advantage over the Fire is the screen ratio. The screen ratio on the fire is too limiting as an all purpose device. The screen ratio for that Ipad would be it's biggest advantage over the fire and other elongated 7" devices.

But in many cases people do want to to be disturbed :p In many cases, people do want to see what the channels actually show (not just the description). Besides, all modern settop boxes do use part of the screen for showing current channel while surfing the guide.

Besides, some actions are impossible to perform without looking at TV screen (for example, brightness/contrast control, zoom etc.)
 
Lol you make an honest statement and get 44 vote downs. This is a cool forum.

Funny how the level of denial & hate skyrockets if the voice of experience & truth speaks up.

The only expressions welcome here are those that suck up to Apple, blindly praising them. Honest evaluations, and real life experience is down voted.

Despite years of supporting Apple with my wallet, tens of thousands of dollars later, customer experience means nothing to the followers. There's no room in the "Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field" for loyal customers that continue to use common sense & dare think for themselves.
 
Despite years of supporting Apple with my wallet, tens of thousands of dollars later, customer experience means nothing to the followers. There's no room in the "Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field" for loyal customers that continue to use common sense & dare think for themselves.

Then quit buying Apple gear and go visit a different forum. Apple isn't changing their basic MO. Moaning about it ad nauseum is senseless.

You can think for yourself as much as you like and beat your chest as if that makes you somehow stand out from the "sheep." Good for you. It won't change what's available on the shelves.

And quite frankly, it is because of the customer experience that "loyal customers" continue to spend money on Apple gear. But buying their stuff just to complain about it after is pretty stupid.

The comment you were referencing in your post was a load of nonsense. That's why it was down-voted. Greed? Apple sells a great product at the price point they think it will sell at. They sell absolute scads of them, and with that same product redefine an entire industry.

Meanwhile, HP releases junk, hoodwinks customers into buying it, and by the time they brought it home it's already on firesale, so HP can just milk whatever's left in it. And people call Apple greedy? Apple creates a product, and they stand behind it, with their customer service and their fleshed-out ecosystem. They don't try to foist garbage on consumers, only to take their money and drop them and the platform barely months later. THAT is greed. It's as close to outright theft and misrepresentation as you can possibly get. Consumers got hosed. Big time. You want greed? Look at all the fools trying to follow Apple with their dead-end devices. All this trial-and-error is costing people money.
 
Then quit buying Apple gear and go visit a different forum.

My, my. We don't seem to be interested in discussing topics on a "discussion forum", are we?

IMO, telling people to "go away or shut up" should rank up there with direct personal insults as violations of forum rules.

The point of a forum is discussion - not to have a bunch of mindless drones nodding in unison.
 
Why can't the 7" screen be destined for the rumoured Apple TV package? It'd be the perfect size for a mobile control module.
 
And people call Apple greedy? Apple creates a product, and they stand behind it, with their customer service and their fleshed-out ecosystem.

I miss the days when the word "ecosystem" was only used in relation to wetlands. What with alligators eating deer, then pooping out the deer so Mimosa trees could grow in the newly fertilized swampy soil. Yeah. Nature's about damn disgusting. But whatever. The word made sense then. And only people who knew what it meant used it.

But nowadays? It's more this marketing buzzword, repeated by people who want to make their chosen product sound better to the Doubting Thomases or the universally loathed User Of Competing Hardware.

"You know, man. You can keep your HP crap. Apple has an ecosystem now. It came out with the iPad, and is this magical thing that changed everything...again. It just works."

Derp.
 
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