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I was just thinking this, and please hear me out, my goal is not to antagonize or create a negative discussion. Rather, I am simply curious how many other people share my idea of what the “ideal” iphone would be.


My ideal iPhone would be essentially an “iPhone 7” with an OLED display and continued “spec” improvement (processor, battery especially, camera etc).


Important/ signature / highlight features would then be:


-Size and form factor of the iphone 7 body and screen (not plus although I’m glad people have options)

-OLED screen similar size

-home button with touch ID

-improved battery life

-aluminum or metal case / back

-fast charging

-camera, flash storage capacity, processor all at the “top of the line” spec



I actually like the iphone 6/7/8 size. I used to think the iphone 5/SE size was ideal, but it does seem a little less than ideal after using the 6 and 7 for so long. A flagship phone in the same size of the 7/8 with a quality OLED screen sounds perfect. My personal opinion is that the edge to edge display sounds cool, but not necessary. If anything it seems like technology triumph over good design. When you use your phone, the working area really is in the middle. Not trying to say it should never be done, just what I think is ideal.


And the home button is such a genius design element. IMO it was placed on the original iphone for a reason. With touch screen technology at the time, Apple design team and SJ could have easily made a touch screen type home button on some part of the phone. But they went physical for a reason. It just feels right. Touch ID works amazingly well on my 7.


I’m hesitant about the glass back on the 8 and X. I had an iphone 4 without issues. I’ve had a 6 and 7 without issues too, and I do tend to use cases. But wireless charging doesn’t seem as important as fast charging, plugging in a lightning charger is effortless, and I’d take increased durability over wireless charging any day. YMMV.


And it goes without saying that up to date processor, cameras, battery is essential in an ideal phone.


So, my iphone XI would be an iphone 7 or 8 sized phone with OLED, touch ID, physical home button (actually like the non moving version on the 7 more than I thought), metal case and up to internals. Would pay good money for such a device. I hope it happens sooner than later.


What would be your ideal iphone if not this?
 
I love the look and feel of the aluminum so I would say a 7 form factor with a bezelless screen and aluminum casing.
 
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I love the look and feel of the aluminum so I would say a 7 form factor with a bezelless screen and aluminum casing.

So you would put the bezel less screen as higher priority than the home button?
 
So you would put the bezel less screen as higher priority than the home button?
I think so. I love the home button and Touch ID but a larger screen in a smaller factor is my top desire. I have a plus and love the screen size but not the phone size.
 
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I think so. I love the home button and Touch ID but a larger screen in a smaller factor is my top desire. I have a plus and love the screen size but not the phone size.

I think the larger screen could be very nice and and acceptable alternative, but only if they were able to implement Touch ID on the screen.
[doublepost=1506106280][/doublepost]Oh and I forgot. I just powered up my old iPhone 5 and whatever OS it has right now has slide to unlock.

PLEASE BRING BACK SLIDE TO UNLOCK! APPLE.
[doublepost=1506107374][/doublepost]Another good option would be a phone physically somewhere in between the iPhone 6/7/8 and 5, with a full screen display and Touch ID in the screen.
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I love the look and feel of the aluminum so I would say a 7 form factor with a bezelless screen and aluminum casing.

Is there any advantage of aluminum vs. titanium vs. stainlesss steel? I assume light weight and maybe cost. What would be the feasibility of ceramic? At least in some other objects, there is the risk of "catastrophic failure with ceramic" that I am aware of, like break into a million pieces.
 
I think the larger screen could be very nice and and acceptable alternative, but only if they were able to implement Touch ID on the screen.
[doublepost=1506106280][/doublepost]Oh and I forgot. I just powered up my old iPhone 5 and whatever OS it has right now has slide to unlock.

PLEASE BRING BACK SLIDE TO UNLOCK! APPLE.
[doublepost=1506107374][/doublepost]Another good option would be a phone physically somewhere in between the iPhone 6/7/8 and 5, with a full screen display and Touch ID in the screen.
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Is there any advantage of aluminum vs. titanium vs. stainlesss steel? I assume light weight and maybe cost. What would be the feasibility of ceramic? At least in some other objects, there is the risk of "catastrophic failure with ceramic" that I am aware of, like break into a million pieces.
I don’t know any differences in the material, in terms of durability, but I know charging only works with glass.

I think they bring back Touch ID under the screen when they figure it out! I hope so!
 
I don’t know any differences in the material, in terms of durability, but I know charging only works with glass.

I think they bring back Touch ID under the screen when they figure it out! I hope so!


yeah, I mean I guess we will see how durable this new iPhone 8 glass is.
 
I think they bring back Touch ID under the screen when they figure it out! I hope so!

People just have to let the dream go. Apple made the choice to move on from Touch ID well over a year ago. This is even before the iPhone 7 release. It's been well documented by now. Also all the top execs from Tim to Craig etc. say Face ID is the future.

Next will be iPad, which will actually work even better because touch ID is usually a two hand process, as well as Mac which makes even more sense over touch id.

I hear ya, i love Touch ID...but its gone.
 
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People just have to let the dream go. Apple made the choice to move on from Touch ID well over a year ago. This is even before the iPhone 7 release. It's been well documented by now. Also all the top execs from Tim to Craig etc. say Face ID is the future.

Next will be iPad, which will actually work even better because touch ID is usually a two hand process, as well as Mac which makes even more sense over touch id.

I hear ya, i love Touch ID...but its gone.

I don't buy this. This would piss a lot of people off.
 
Well they will probably still sell the 8 and 8 plus 2 or 3 years from now as the entry level. That will have touch ID. But new models from here on? Nope.

Well I agree that they will keep the 7 and then 8 on cycle as per norm. And I actually could see them going forward with just face ID and no touch. But I think that would be a huge mistake. But I guess thats why I'm not in Cook's position. Maybe I just don't "get it."

And to be fair I haven't tried face ID in person yet. But using my 7 today, and the phone instantly unlocks as soon as you touch it, reaching across the table - before even bringing it to your face. This is more important to me that an edge to edge display. I suspect I am not alone, but I wonder if I am in the majority or not.
 
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Well I agree that they will keep the 7 and then 8 on cycle as per norm. And I actually could see them going forward with just face ID and no touch. But I think that would be a huge mistake. But I guess thats why I'm not in Cook's position. Maybe I just don't "get it."

Man they made this decision well over a year ago. It just is what it is. They will still offer Touch ID devices for a few more years, but older models only. Face ID is the future, and thats coming from Tim Cook.
 
Take the iphone 8 Plus gold colour.

Thin the side bezels as per the X
Totally get rid of the bezel at the top, all the sensors would be under the screen
Put in an oled screen
Keep the home button with touch id
Add the face recognition of the X because app developers will be able to do some prett cool things with it
Add back the earphone jack
Improve the water rating and battery life
Put in a devent file management sytem
Allow for customation and split screen multitasking

And I'm as happy as Larry.
 
Take the iphone 8 Plus gold colour.

Thin the side bezels as per the X
Totally get rid of the bezel at the top, all the sensors would be under the screen
Put in an oled screen
Keep the home button with touch id
Add the face recognition of the X because app developers will be able to do some prett cool things with it
Add back the earphone jack
Improve the water rating and battery life
Put in a devent file management sytem
Allow for customation and split screen multitasking

And I'm as happy as Larry.

Would be asymmetric but retain or include all the good features.
[doublepost=1506133838][/doublepost]I guess I should also qualify this with the fact that I'm debating whether or not to get the X or the 8...
 
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People just have to let the dream go. Apple made the choice to move on from Touch ID well over a year ago. This is even before the iPhone 7 release. It's been well documented by now. Also all the top execs from Tim to Craig etc. say Face ID is the future.

Next will be iPad, which will actually work even better because touch ID is usually a two hand process, as well as Mac which makes even more sense over touch id.

I hear ya, i love Touch ID...but its gone.
They decided two months ago... not sure if you’ve seen the hundred rumors about it.
 
People just have to let the dream go. Apple made the choice to move on from Touch ID well over a year ago. This is even before the iPhone 7 release. It's been well documented by now. Also all the top execs from Tim to Craig etc. say Face ID is the future.

Next will be iPad, which will actually work even better because touch ID is usually a two hand process, as well as Mac which makes even more sense over touch id.

I hear ya, i love Touch ID...but its gone.

Face ID is nice gimmick - you need more steps to open your phone, you won't be able to open the phone while pulling it out of your pocket, and i wont be able to use it while im wearing ski mask with mirrored goggles...

I'll stick with the correct Home Button\Touch ID till they figure out how to implement them under edge to edge screen inside SE body sized phone, this plus one week battery and the latest CPU, RAM, camera & storage option will be the ideal phone for my needs.
 
Take the iphone 8 Plus gold colour.

Thin the side bezels as per the X
Totally get rid of the bezel at the top, all the sensors would be under the screen
Put in an oled screen
Keep the home button with touch id
Add the face recognition of the X because app developers will be able to do some prett cool things with it
Add back the earphone jack
Improve the water rating and battery life
Put in a devent file management sytem
Allow for customation and split screen multitasking

And I'm as happy as Larry.
Sensors can’t go under. Hence the tab on the X
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Umm they decided well over a year ago.
Source. Bcecause you’re clearly wrong. Have you been following the rumors for the X at all?
 
Sensors can’t go under. Hence the tab on the X
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Source. Bcecause you’re clearly wrong. Have you been following the rumors for the X at all?

lol you think they just decided to go with Face ID over Touch two months ago?

This was a decision made over a year ago, they abandoned trying to put a sensor under the panel and chose Touch ID. That’s it.

Here’s just one article that clearly states the tech was decided well over a year ago

http://bgr.com/2017/09/15/iphone-x-face-id-vs-touch-id-original-design/

It’s been widely documented and Craig also mentioned in a podcast Face ID has been decided since last year and IS the future of iPhone.
 
My ideal iPhone would basically be the X, with some form of a home button and TouchID, and a headphone jack.
 
We’re better off without the home button. It brings with it unwelcome bezels.

We’re better off without Touch ID. It’s less secure and requires a home button.

I don’t know what my ideal iPhone looks like. All I know if that is the top notch wasn’t there it would look horrible bland and generic.
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Face ID is nice gimmick - you need more steps to open your phone, you won't be able to open the phone while pulling it out of your pocket, and i wont be able to use it while im wearing ski mask with mirrored goggles...

Nor would you be able to use Touch ID with ski gloves. Your last point is irrelevant.

Face ID doesn’t require more steps. That’s a commonly heard myth around these parts. You swipe up. That’s it. Unless you’re counting ‘looking at your phone’ as a step, which seems asinine.
 
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lol you think they just decided to go with Face ID over Touch two months ago?

This was a decision made over a year ago, they abandoned trying to put a sensor under the panel and chose Touch ID. That’s it.

Here’s just one article that clearly states the tech was decided well over a year ago

http://bgr.com/2017/09/15/iphone-x-face-id-vs-touch-id-original-design/

It’s been widely documented and Craig also mentioned in a podcast Face ID has been decided since last year and IS the future of iPhone.
Oh I see now. You live in a world of monochoice. Only one choice. So as soon as Apple made something new they chose that over old.

Still wrong, but at least I see why you’re wrong.
 
Oh I see now. You live in a world of monochoice. Only one choice. So as soon as Apple made something new they chose that over old.

Still wrong, but at least I see why you’re wrong.

lol I literally have zero idea what your post means, not gonna lie.

I’m not sure why you fail to understand Apple made the decision to go with Face ID over Touch ID a year ago. This is the basis of our conversation.
 
lol I literally have zero idea what your post means, not gonna lie.

I’m not sure why you fail to understand Apple made the decision to go with Face ID over Touch ID a year ago. This is the basis of our conversation.
They didn’t. Why did they work to implement Touch ID under the display up until a month ago, if they gave up a year ago?

You’re saying “they made face ID. Therefore they do not want or care for Touch ID” which is factually incorrect. I don’t see why you can’t see fact.
 
They didn’t. Why did they work to implement Touch ID under the display up until a month ago

This is false. You also have failed to provide any proof that Apple was still working on implementing Touch ID just one month ago. That’s just not how R&D works. Sorry, but this is just getting silly.
 
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