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nerdAFK

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Some say the top and bottom bezel are too big.
But simply decreasing the top and bottom would result in something like a typical ugly Samsung brick or Motorola Defy.

All with 5.5" display and same size Touch ID button, the middle one is dramatically smaller than the current iPhone 6 Plus. The width and height are about 95% of the current one, which should make the surface area of the front only 90% of the iPhone 6 Plus.

The same applies to the 4.7" iPhone 6.
95% of 67mm is only 63.65mm, that would be even more easily handled with one hand.

Like I said before, if only those bezels go away, especially the side bezels.

But why are they (side bezels) still here and still pretty big? Any technical reasons?


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iamMacPerson

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I think it looks a bit better spaced out. Otherwise everything just looks really, really, cramped together. At least with slightly bigger bezels the components are offered more space.

Plus, since its bigger, that means more room for more battery.
 

nerdAFK

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I think it looks a bit better spaced out. Otherwise everything just looks really, really, cramped together. At least with slightly bigger bezels the components are offered more space.

Plus, since its bigger, that means more room for more battery.

Maybe a little busy, then increase the top and bottom bezel a little, but at least make the side bezels smaller.

LG has been doing a great job delivering small bezel phones, they are pushing really hard and they deserve the credibility.

Hopefully, two years later, the iPhone 7 models should be significantly narrower.
 

osofast240sx

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Maybe a little busy, then increase the top and bottom bezel a little, but at least make the side bezels smaller.

LG has been doing a great job delivering small bezel phones, they are pushing really hard and they deserve the credibility.

Hopefully, two years later, the iPhone 7 models should be significantly narrower.
Lg ecosystem sucks. iPhones are not bought for superior specs! Never had
 

r-m

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But why are they (side bezels) still here and still pretty big? Any technical reasons?

Hopefully the teardowns will happen soon with all these early ones floating around, then we'll see if there's squeezed in under those bezels.
Hopefully it's not just empty space..
 

DMP87

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Sep 15, 2013
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personally, I wanted something like this

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maybe well get something close to that with the 7.
 

turbineseaplane

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Lots of people will comment that thinning out the sides/top & bottom looks bad...

...but that will be exactly what iP7 will do (only direction left to "shrink")

Then of course, it will be "amazing design by Apple" ;-)
 

gopherblue

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I think it looks a bit better spaced out. Otherwise everything just looks really, really, cramped together. At least with slightly bigger bezels the components are offered more space.

Plus, since its bigger, that means more room for more battery.

I think they should've decreased the bezels all around, and not been so gung ho on making it so thin. If the 6 Plus form factor was in between the S5 and the Note 3, it would've been a category killer. And if it was a mm or so thicker, that would (1) provide more internal volume and thus a larger battery and (b) the camera wouldn't have to stick out--something that Jobs would've have tantrums about.
 

lordofthereef

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Nov 29, 2011
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I think if we see bezels shrink we will see it across the board with all iOS devices. It's just an iconic look that Apple seems to want to keep the same. I don't have an issue with the look of the bezels all that much. It would be nice for the phone to be a bit shorter.

IMO, if the biggest issue people have are bezels, Apple hit this one out of the park. (Still grumbling about the potentially lacking 1GB ram though)
 

justinTlME

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Without the bezels on the top and bottom I fear it would be even harder to hold onto. Reaching for the touch ID at the bottom would definitely be more difficult and would probably feel like you were accidentally tapping the touch screen.
 

C. Robert

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I think if we see bezels shrink we will see it across the board with all iOS devices. It's just an iconic look that Apple seems to want to keep the same. I don't have an issue with the look of the bezels all that much. It would be nice for the phone to be a bit shorter.

IMO, if the biggest issue people have are bezels, Apple hit this one out of the park. (Still grumbling about the potentially lacking 1GB ram though)

I don't know if it being iconic is the reason. I bet they test smaller bezels thoroughly and it feels better to keep them. Ive used a LG G3 and it feels cramped.
 

lordofthereef

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I don't know if it being iconic is the reason. I bet they test smaller bezels thoroughly and it feels better to keep them. Ive used a LG G3 and it feels cramped.

Look at every single idevice. They look the same. It's a matter of being iconic. Those bezels are the one constant we have seen since birth.

I fail to see how removing a part of the device the user has zero interaction with would cause one to feel cramped, but to each his own I guess.
 

Vertigo50

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Look at every single idevice. They look the same. It's a matter of being iconic. Those bezels are the one constant we have seen since birth.

I fail to see how removing a part of the device the user has zero interaction with would cause one to feel cramped, but to each his own I guess.

It's true. It's an iconic layout that is very recognizable. Look at the logo in the Made for iPhone sticker.

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JayLenochiniMac

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I don't know if it being iconic is the reason. I bet they test smaller bezels thoroughly and it feels better to keep them. Ive used a LG G3 and it feels cramped.

Or they didn't like the reduced battery life (less bezels = smaller battery you can fit in the case) or they required the space for OIS.

Bet this will change once technology improves.
 

C. Robert

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Look at every single idevice. They look the same. It's a matter of being iconic. Those bezels are the one constant we have seen since birth.

I fail to see how removing a part of the device the user has zero interaction with would cause one to feel cramped, but to each his own I guess.

If you go hold a LG G3, there is not much to hold onto. That in turn makes it feel cramped. A knife has a handle so that you can use the know. Cut off 50% of your knife handle then try to cut something. I am not saying that it makes sense to you but to normal people, it does.
 

DVDxR

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Jun 18, 2009
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Side bezels are there for a technical reason: to prevent you from touching with your palm or thenar (base of your thumb) when you reach over with the thumb to tap on the screen. I have this problem with my Moto X where the side bezels are ever so slightly smaller than on the iPhone. I'll reach across with my thumb but the touch does not register correctly because the base of my thumb is touching the edge of the screen (leads to a lot of accidental zooming :p )
 

skanska

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If you go hold a LG G3, there is not much to hold onto. That in turn makes it feel cramped. A knife has a handle so that you can use the know. Cut off 50% of your knife handle then try to cut something. I am not saying that it makes sense to you but to normal people, it does.


Perfect sense
 

sviato

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Hopefully, two years later, the iPhone 7 models should be significantly narrower.

I can see it now: "Only Apple can put all of this amazing engineering into a phone with such a narrow design!" :D


Lg ecosystem sucks. iPhones are not bought for superior specs! Never had

But they are often bought for design, and huge bezels are not very attractive.

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Or they didn't like the reduced battery life (less bezels = smaller battery you can fit in the case)

Clearly they did since they keep making the phones thinner lol
 

lordofthereef

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If you go hold a LG G3, there is not much to hold onto. That in turn makes it feel cramped. A knife has a handle so that you can use the know. Cut off 50% of your knife handle then try to cut something. I am not saying that it makes sense to you but to normal people, it does.

So your argument is that you hold onto a bezel much like you hold onto a knife handle?

You are aware that we are discussing the top and bottom bezels, right? Those do nothing in terms of making the phone easier to handle. They are a detriment, if anything.
 
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