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I have never once said I want a thinner phone, though I have said I'd like a bigger battery every single day of my life. Use the thin OLED to make room for a battery that is 50% bigger. (please)
That, plus a thinner display would mean that the cameras could sit just a bit further/deeper back into the chassis so that the camera bump was at least a little bit less prominent. Both that and bigger battery would be very big positives for me.
 
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Does anyone else hold their iPhone and wonder wtf Apple is thinking? My only guess is that they design these things specifically to be put in cases, but will just never admit it.

I honestly feel like the best Apple iPhone design was the iPhone 3G. I'm imagining what a modern iPhone designed after the 3G would be like. All glass front, with a curved plastic back that actually feels good to hold in the hand, doesn't get destroyed when dropped from 3 feet (my old 3G could survive a toss across the room), and gets phenomenal reception.
I would love either plastic or metal back. Like why give us 2 surfaces of easily breakable glass......I think the 5 was a great holdable form. The 3/3gs lineup was nice but still a bit slippery.
 
I would love either plastic or metal back. Like why give us 2 surfaces of easily breakable glass......I think the 5 was a great holdable form. The 3/3gs lineup was nice but still a bit slippery.
Definitely. It would have to be something other than metal to enable wireless charging but high quality plastic (brushed finish maybe) would be fine for me.

It’s not just durability. The difference in weight between iPhone 4 & iPhone 5 was spectacular, a real “oh wow” moment when I picked up a 5 in an Apple Store for the first time, and I suspect a lot of that was due to the switch from a glass to an aluminium back. I’d love to see the same happen to the iPhone Pro Max (my current weapon of choice).
 
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I want a bigger battery and for my iPhone to lay flat on a table without rocking. I couldn't care less about an ultra thin iPhone.

For iPad it makes sense. I'll take whatever reduction in size and weight I can get with that.
 
Why not AMOLED, instead of OLED? There's whole array of Chinese phones and watches with AMOLED.
 
I honestly feel like the best Apple iPhone design was the iPhone 3G. I'm imagining what a modern iPhone designed after the 3G would be like. All glass front, with a curved plastic back that actually feels good to hold in the hand, doesn't get destroyed when dropped from 3 feet (my old 3G could survive a toss across the room), and gets phenomenal reception.
In my opinion the best designs were the 4 and 5, which is what they returned to since the 12. I remember that my iPhone 3G felt like a slippery soap bar (like the iPhone X), and upgrading to the 4 made a huge difference.
 
In my opinion the best designs were the 4 and 5, which is what they returned to since the 12. I remember that my iPhone 3G felt like a slippery soap bar (like the iPhone X), and upgrading to the 4 made a huge difference.
I just feel like plastic is what such a handheld device should be made out of. For practicality sake, comfort of holding, damage control, among other things. The obsession with premium materials like stainless steel and titanium don't appear to have any practical application, they are for marketing and inflating costs.
 
I just feel like plastic is what such a handheld device should be made out of. For practicality sake, comfort of holding, damage control, among other things. The obsession with premium materials like stainless steel and titanium don't appear to have any practical application, they are for marketing and inflating costs.
Yeah I hear you. They had the iPhone 5c for a bit, but then interestingly enough they replaced it with the SE.
 
Does anyone else hold their iPhone and wonder wtf Apple is thinking? My only guess is that they design these things specifically to be put in cases, but will just never admit it.

I honestly feel like the best Apple iPhone design was the iPhone 3G. I'm imagining what a modern iPhone designed after the 3G would be like. All glass front, with a curved plastic back that actually feels good to hold in the hand, doesn't get destroyed when dropped from 3 feet (my old 3G could survive a toss across the room), and gets phenomenal reception.
Yes, plastic is annoyingly cheap, sturdy and radiowave-inert. For instance, metal payment cards were the hype few years ago, but vendors had to insert RF antenna in plastic overlay so they could work properly. On the other hand, glass phones are not just cash cows, they're also monuments to planned obsolescence.
 
6.7" is the standard size for any Chinese phone for last 2 years or so, and they have AMOLED, not just OLED. And, the Pros doesn't cost so much, does it? 120Hz...
Amoled? Fake black trash.
Had it, hated it. On a Samsung. My eyes were bleeding and I was constantly feeling nauseous.

Also I would stay away from anything Chinese for multiple reason. First of all, level of support. I am not a person who loves to switch phones often, currently rocking with my 11 Pro. The phone is 5 years. And this thing still works good! I doubt any Xiaomi from 5 years old is still useable.

120Hz feels like a gimmick to me to be honest. I value good quality display more than anything, in the market for pro model not because of that but because I want the top camera system and not something mediocre. Also ProRAW, photographic styles, pixel binning and other interesting stuff they do with 48mp sensors, as well as many many more features iPhone 17 might have… Android just cannot compete in this field. Yes one can shoot dngs but there are not so many apps to actually comfortably work with these large files, the only few that come to my mind are Snapseed, Lightroom and… thats it.

Another reason is Android itself. It is poorly integrated with my setup. Over the yearsI realized I cannot live without AirDrop! This feature is often lifesaver for me. With Android I gotta use cloud storage each time or a cable to transfer some shots or data.

As for 6.7 inch – it is a f###ing shovel. I had used few this-sized smartphones and those always fell out of my pocket. Very unconvenient. I am a fan of tiny phones, if there was mini Pro model I would definitely go for it. I have normal hands but photography with those “mini tablet” devices is almost mission impossible. Literally the reason I never shoot with iPad🤣
 
Why not AMOLED, instead of OLED? There's whole array of Chinese phones and watches with AMOLED.

6.7" is the standard size for any Chinese phone for last 2 years or so, and they have AMOLED, not just OLED. And, the Pros doesn't cost so much, does it? 120Hz...

Amoled? Fake black trash.
Had it, hated it. On a Samsung. My eyes were bleeding and I was constantly feeling nauseous.

AMOLED, OLED, P-OLED, are all the same thing. Distinction without a difference. They all work the same, only thing changing being inconsequential like wiring, substrate materials, etc.

Different brands will call their OLED something like "Super AMOLED" as a branding thing. Something even Apple is guilty of this - Super Retina XDR, anyone?

If you want to look at different OLED tech, you'll need to look at OLED TVs. Those work differently from what's in mobile devices.
 
I just feel like plastic is what such a handheld device should be made out of. For practicality sake, comfort of holding, damage control, among other things. The obsession with premium materials like stainless steel and titanium don't appear to have any practical application, they are for marketing and inflating costs.
And how premium could Apple make plastic look? A genuine question but Apple is one of the best resourced companies on the planet with I assume some extremely well qualified materials scientists so I wonder how close they could make some sort of brushed plastic look to aluminium or frosted glass. Indistinguishable from glass apart from more robust and lighter?
 
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I love this new era of Apple where they’re putting out new devices that I have no desire to upgrade to every year. Never thought I’d be happier with old tech.
yep. Has happened with lots of other tech from virtually every company over the decades. After first a combination of factors (small number of initial consumers, immature tech and still learning what works in real life or doesn't) mean the first devices suck, but the next few years see increasing sales and increasing functionality and value. Once it hits a certain point it plateaus because it's now useful and people don't have big need for more. The next revolution isn't improving that device but rather something completely different that may or may not replace the old, stable device.
 
Definitely. It would have to be something other than metal to enable wireless charging but high quality plastic (brushed finish maybe) would be fine for me.

It’s not just durability. The difference in weight between iPhone 4 & iPhone 5 was spectacular, a real “oh wow” moment when I picked up a 5 in an Apple Store for the first time, and I suspect a lot of that was due to the switch from a glass to an aluminium back. I’d love to see the same happen to the iPhone Pro Max (my current weapon of choice).
my favourite phone design of all time was the Nokia [MS] Lumia 800. all plastic, dropped multiple times and always looked great and fantastic to hold.
 
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Well at least it gives more room for other components. Potentially even smaller bezels as well because of it.

Although with this new tech, I hope it doesn’t get thinner. The iPhone is already thin enough to me. Especially how shrinking it further would only be a wasted opportunity as a bigger battery would have benefited from it.
 
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Looks like no one will need to buy another phone after 17, so Apple should pack it up & coast on infinite years of sales the 17. It will be perfection.
 

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Well at least it gives more room for other components. Potentially even smaller bezels as well because of it.

Although with this new tech, I hope it doesn’t get thinner. The iPhone is already thin enough to me. Especially how shrinking it further would only be a wasted opportunity as a bigger battery would have benefited from it.
Supposedly one of the 17 models will be extra thin. But they will still have the more normal versions too. The thin one may cost more but give less battery and functionality (like camera) and be more of a fashion statement. But the technology used to make it make be a test case for what may go into main stream phones in later years.
 
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