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Much bigger battery to power the retina and much bigger SOC. What were you expecting?

A well designed heat dissipation system, that would emit the heat from a larger area, so it wouldn't feel so hot?

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My 17" Macbook Pro runs warmer than my old 12" Powerbook G4.

My parents 20" iMac G5 runs warmer than their old Powermac G4.

Does that mean there is a problem with those two machines? Are they overheating? No, they simply just run warmer than their older machines.

No one is denying the new iPad runs warmer than the original and iPad 2. No one is dismissing your observation in your OP. What we are dismissing is the assumption that there is something wrong with the new iPad simply because it runs warmer than the older versions.

It really isn't a surprise it runs warmer either and that you can feel it. One the A5X is more power hungry due to the Quad-Core GPU. More power needed= more heat generated. Second the A5X cover is not just a cover anymore like it was for the A4 and A5. It's also a heatsink. The aluminum back of the iPad helps to dissipate from the heatsink.

Todays low power CPUs, several times faster than your G4, doesn't even need active cooling. What is your point?
 
A well designed heat dissipation system, that would emit the heat from a larger area, so it wouldn't feel so hot?
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Just what we all need, more troll feed. "I don't understand why they had to make this new iPad so thick and heavy for this cooling crap!" or... "I can't believe they raised the price of this iPad x$ over the old iPad just for this cooling tech!" Apple can't please everyone, and there's no flippin' point in doing anything about something that's not even a problem in the first place.


Todays low power CPUs, several times faster than your G4, doesn't even need active cooling. What is your point?

Point is that the subsequent products after those were also hotter than the predecessors but nobody was runnin' around playing chicken little about them back then.
 
Mine is the same temperature my iPad and iPad 2 were unless I crank the brightness to 100%, which I never have the need to do. Keep it around 65% and it will stay cold to the touch.
 
While you are picking threads of hope to back your claims on...I believe that you will find in many cases the 'droid tablets ran hotter than the new iPad in several conditions. So I guess that makes the new iapad lead the pack huh? Just get over it... It's certainly not applicable to make any blanket statement such as, "it's the hottest on the market" when you can't say that because you haven't tested or controlled for every possible condition, scenario, or environment. So yeah...that blanket statement was pulled straight outta you know where. Just go wash your hands and we'll call it a day.

@ Wheelman. You sure know how to talk a lot of ... But you claimed that the iPad is middle of the pack compared to the competition, thats a blatant lie, it isn't it's the leader of the pack. Middle of the pack anyway it's by no means.
 
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Oh noes!!! The awesomest superlistic awe-inspiring Transformer Prime is leading the temperature pack and scorching pinkies everywheres!!! Whatever will we do?!?

Give me a flippin' break... Lies, damned lies, and crappy stats from tests that you haven't done yourself or have been properly controlled for.
 
@via gizmodo
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/03/is-the-ipad-overheating-issue-all-hot-air/

iPad does run a touch warmer than the 2nd generation, but within a whisker of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 most of the time, and only a touch above the Transformer Prime, which was the coolest running tablet in their roundup.

Conversely, Wired‘s testing on the 3rd generation iPad versus other tablets saw the Transformer Prime run the warmest, ahead of the iPad, as well as the Kindle Fire and Blackberry Playbook.
I am sure apple marketing can plug a few articles in wire, and wire are not well known for their journo ethics. Sure you can pick and choose a couple of tablets than will run warmer than the ipad, especially so if you are particularly careful to test the cooler ipad you can get your hands on and the few models running around the office that happen on an individual basis to be warmer. I can't imagine the ethics of wire of course would allow them to go ok find us a few warm running playbooks and fires around so we can "test them", after all it's not like they made the cardinal sin of handing over their sources and a man is in jail because of it...

In addition, the oh so objective wire didn't get to test the samsung tab, nor the sony s tablet? Where the hell are these in their "report"? Apparently the ipad 3 had to appear in the middle and they were barred? Can't wired editors afford the sony s or the tab to get them tested too? This stinks like an apple plug to high heavens.

It has to be noted as well that the transformer prime uses a quad core cpu instead of a dual core one. You aren't supposed to know this as apparently you are too into apple to even care to note, but the wire guys should be well aware of it but I don't see them reporting it anywhere? Could it be that apple has a few $$ of their 40 billion per year to spend on getting an article published? Nah... A quad core cpu is far more capable and offers much more of a lifespan for the device and potential for development. I would take a small heat penalty (an alleged one based on wire's stellar testing because the prime is cooler in the pc mag and other tests) if I were running close to twice the computing power.

(In addition you might want to know that the reflectivity of the aluminum back of the ipad creates a favorable bias to temperature measurements what with the amateur equipment used to calculate temperatures (pro ones cost upwards of $5,000) not accounting for it and has an advantage over black surfaces in said bias. )

I fixed that for you, so now, you are absolutely correct.

why do you feel you have to keep lying? You know well enough, or you should, that the ipad is in no way in the mid range of heat dissipation in current tablets.

The reason it's so warm is because apple rushed it to the market and wanted to use a retina screen as a selling point without being able (or rather paying samsung or tmc enough to use a smaller process for the considerably larger cpu+gpu (half of which they'd designed), or use some of samsung's own cpus that had already been on the market 4 months before the ipads release (if samsung would be giving it to them, which I doubt if what with apple's lawyers managing to ban the tab in germany and australia), and instead opted to keep the 45nm process to drive down cost and retain their high margins.

It's not about the battery heating up otherwise the heat would be uniform in the device, but it's not, it's localized. It's about the cpu and the gpu heating up due to intense requirement and the inefficient process (for the demands put on it) they are being manufactured at.

This has all been well documented but you instead choose to mislead buyers here and what is worse attack other posters simply for mentioning their own experience and call them jerks. And you shouldn't be doing that. You are not here to bully others out of their opinions or jump on them when they mention their user experience.

Having said all that to both of you, most of which I am sure has already flown over your head, I have to emphasize that no matter how much you spin it, a user here has offered us their user experience which is what the forums are about. If ipad 3 feels noticeably warmer to them than the ipad 2 they are both allowed to say it before you jump on them, and their subjective experience cannot be refuted.
 
@via gizmodo
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/03/is-the-ipad-overheating-issue-all-hot-air/


I am sure apple marketing can plug a few articles in wire, and wire are not well known for their journo ethics. Sure you can pick and choose a couple of tablets than will run warmer than the ipad, especially so if you are particularly careful to test the cooler ipad you can get your hands on and the few models running around the office that happen on an individual basis to be warmer. I can't imagine the ethics of wire of course would allow them to go ok find us a few warm running playbooks and fires around so we can "test them", after all it's not like they made the cardinal sin of handing over their sources and a man is in jail because of it.

Quite ironic that you go after wire's journo ethics, but link back to gizmodo/gawker.....
 
Quite ironic that you go after wire's journo ethics, but link back to gizmodo/gawker.....
I am not linking back to gizmodo on purpose, I couldn't find the wire article, or for that matter any reference to wire in the picture the other poster posted, and had to do a bit of researching myself so I quoted from gizmodo making reference to wire, since I couldn't locate the original wire article. Simple as that. The first paragraph in the quote is from the pc mag test, so nothing involving gizmodo there really other the relaying of info.
:)

Having said that journalistic ethics can get a bit more crucial when a human life is at stake, and obtaining an iphone from the lost property of a bar isn't the epitome of journalistic ethic misconduct... just to put things in perspective here.
 
I am not linking back to gizmodo on purpose, I couldn't find the wire article, or for that matter any reference to wire in the picture the other poster posted, and had to do a bit of researching myself so I quoted from gizmodo making reference to wire, since I couldn't locate the original wire article. Simple as that. The first paragraph in the quote is from the pc mag test, so nothing involving gizmodo there really other the relaying of info.
:)

Having said that journalistic ethics can get a bit more crucial when a human life is at stake, and obtaining an iphone from the lost property of a bar isn't the epitome of journalistic ethic misconduct... just to put things in perspective here.

Agreed. Human life is more important than any gadget.

Curious, what did the source do? Did the source just leak product info or something of the like or did he do something nasty/illegal? There has to be a reason wire gave up the source. Or were they just trying to avoid being sued or blacklisted?
 
@via gizmodo
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/03/is-the-ipad-overheating-issue-all-hot-air/


I am sure apple marketing can plug a few articles in wire, and wire are not well known for their journo ethics. Sure you can pick and choose a couple of tablets than will run warmer than the ipad, especially so if you are particularly careful to test the cooler ipad you can get your hands on and the few models running around the office that happen on an individual basis to be warmer. I can't imagine the ethics of wire of course would allow them to go ok find us a few warm running playbooks and fires around so we can "test them", after all it's not like they made the cardinal sin of handing over their sources and a man is in jail because of it...

In addition, the oh so objective wire didn't get to test the samsung tab, nor the sony s tablet? Where the hell are these in their "report"? Apparently the ipad 3 had to appear in the middle and they were barred? Can't wired editors afford the sony s or the tab to get them tested too? This stinks like an apple plug to high heavens.

It has to be noted as well that the transformer prime uses a quad core cpu instead of a dual core one. You aren't supposed to know this as apparently you are too into apple to even care to note, but the wire guys should be well aware of it but I don't see them reporting it anywhere? Could it be that apple has a few $$ of their 40 billion per year to spend on getting an article published? Nah... A quad core cpu is far more capable and offers much more of a lifespan for the device and potential for development. I would take a small heat penalty (an alleged one based on wire's stellar testing because the prime is cooler in the pc mag and other tests) if I were running close to twice the computing power.

(In addition you might want to know that the reflectivity of the aluminum back of the ipad creates a favorable bias to temperature measurements what with the amateur equipment used to calculate temperatures (pro ones cost upwards of $5,000) not accounting for it and has an advantage over black surfaces in said bias. )



why do you feel you have to keep lying? You know well enough, or you should, that the ipad is in no way in the mid range of heat dissipation in current tablets.

The reason it's so warm is because apple rushed it to the market and wanted to use a retina screen as a selling point without being able (or rather paying samsung or tmc enough to use a smaller process for the considerably larger cpu+gpu (half of which they'd designed), or use some of samsung's own cpus that had already been on the market 4 months before the ipads release (if samsung would be giving it to them, which I doubt if what with apple's lawyers managing to ban the tab in germany and australia), and instead opted to keep the 45nm process to drive down cost and retain their high margins.

It's not about the battery heating up otherwise the heat would be uniform in the device, but it's not, it's localized. It's about the cpu and the gpu heating up due to intense requirement and the inefficient process (for the demands put on it) they are being manufactured at.

This has all been well documented but you instead choose to mislead buyers here and what is worse attack other posters simply for mentioning their own experience and call them jerks. And you shouldn't be doing that. You are not here to bully others out of their opinions or jump on them when they mention their user experience.

Having said all that to both of you, most of which I am sure has already flown over your head, I have to emphasize that no matter how much you spin it, a user here has offered us their user experience which is what the forums are about. If ipad 3 feels noticeably warmer to them than the ipad 2 they are both allowed to say it before you jump on them, and their subjective experience cannot be refuted.

The article I linked to clearly (that's CLEARLY), states that the iPad IS NOT the hottest device of it's kind. And why the hell would you call me a liar? I didn't make that up, and I SHOWED YOU where I got that info from. If you have some proof that they are wrong, let's see it, but don't call me a damn liar!
 
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What an utterly pointless debate in this thread. Yes, the iPad 3 is warmer in usage than an iPad 2. No, this makes no difference in everyday usage.

/end thread
 
What an utterly pointless debate in this thread. Yes, the iPad 3 is warmer in usage than an iPad 2. No, this makes no difference in everyday usage.

/end thread

Even that isn't new to this thread:

Hotter than original iPad or iPad 2? ...of course
Does it have mucho more battery, backlight, GPU, and 4G radio? ...ummmm...yeah
Is it anything to worry at all about? ..yeah...that'd be a big fat NO!

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