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I think that by now the situation for this year is clear. My advice is not to think about it anymore, because if you read that someone has found a perfect panel, your dissatisfaction will probably grow again. This year it’s better to settle for the lesser evil; we’ll see what next year will be like.
Who knows if it's really “perfect”. Photos taken with a cell phone from another phone usually don't look true to reality. My photos a few pages before were definitely falsified.
 
Who knows if it's really “perfect”. Photos taken with a cell phone from another phone usually don't look true to reality. My photos a few pages before were definitely falsified.
Well, of course—it’s not a given that someone who considers a panel perfect will have your same sensitivity in spotting flaws. You should see it with your own eyes to judge whether it’s perfect or not.
 
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That doesn't mean anything. The 2 worst screens I had were Samsung G9N. Reddish screen and "cloudy".
If yours is ok, keep it.
Agreed i am happy with my 17pm display , however i just checked my old 12 pro screen it has the G9N as well , but i was never happy about that display, the colors were overly warm , slightly comparable to as if i had night shift turned on on similar phones
 
That's my theory too. For example my friend couldn't tell there was a gradient on my PM. Not even after pointing it out, they said they see green in the opposite direction, but it could be an illusion because of eye strain.

My friend is a video editor and if they didn't see anything, I'm inclined to believe we are a bit way too obsessed over this too, and like many said, if it isn't an obvious issue with the panel, or you don't notice something on usual usage, then keep it.

My friend was able to see the soft gradient only after I showed them a black background with white text. And still had to stare at it to spot it. Then they were like "ok, but it's way too soft. How much did you stare at the screen in order to see it?" and that widened my perspective a bit about this whole issue
 
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That's my theory too. For example my friend couldn't tell there was a gradient on my PM. Not even after pointing it out, they said they see green in the opposite direction, but it could be an illusion because of eye strain.

My friend is a video editor and if they didn't see anything, I'm inclined to believe we are a bit way too obsessed over this too, and like many said, if it isn't an obvious issue with the panel, or you don't notice something on usual usage, then keep it.

My friend was able to see the soft gradient only after I showed them a black background with white text. And still had to stare at it to spot it. Then they were like "ok, but it's way too soft. How much did you stare at the screen in order to see it?" and that widened my perspective a bit about this whole issue
Yes, I also believe that many people do not even see these mistakes. That is ok.
On the other hand, there are such bad displays that I am really stunned by what goes through the QC. 🤮🤮
 
That's my theory too. For example my friend couldn't tell there was a gradient on my PM. Not even after pointing it out, they said they see green in the opposite direction, but it could be an illusion because of eye strain.

My friend is a video editor and if they didn't see anything, I'm inclined to believe we are a bit way too obsessed over this too, and like many said, if it isn't an obvious issue with the panel, or you don't notice something on usual usage, then keep it.

My friend was able to see the soft gradient only after I showed them a black background with white text. And still had to stare at it to spot it. Then they were like "ok, but it's way too soft. How much did you stare at the screen in order to see it?" and that widened my perspective a bit about this whole issue

More than obsessed, we strive for perfection and notice every flaw, which, however, is considered (and partly is) intrinsic to this technology. In fact, I’m not particularly a fan of OLED displays in general. They have their pros but also their cons (like tinting that i hate), whether in smartphones, TVs, etc.
Infact this is my first OLED smartphone, because my previous one (that i still have and use too) was an iPhone XR (IPS LCD).
 
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For example, about Tvs tinting


reading this, seems that some years are better than others. Maybe it's the same for smartphone, maybe next year could be better (or not).
 
For example, about Tvs tinting


reading this, seems that some years are better than others. Maybe it's the same for smartphone, maybe next year could be better (or not).
Completely different panel tech in TVs. Green tint and other anomalies on oled TVs are a result of manufacturers pushing the brightness wars every year because the average consumer thinks brighter is better. Phones are different.
 
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Completely different panel tech in TVs. Green tint and other anomalies on oled TVs are a result of manufacturers pushing the brightness wars every year because the average consumer thinks brighter is better. Phones are different.
Wrong, tinting is not caused by brightness war. All oled screen in the planet can have tinting. Tv, smartphones, etc.
For sure tv and smarphone screens could have a different manufacturers, but both are still oled display. With many layers one of the top of the other that can ‘shift’ colors and generate tinting.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they have different manufacturing processes; they are still both panels using that type of technology and can have the same issues. Samsung panels have different manufacturing processes from LG’s, but both can show tinting (whether green, red, yellow, or blue). Why? Because they are both OLED.

And, for the record, the RTINGS article I posted was only meant to point out that each production year is a case in itself, and in some years panels are on average better or worse depending on the batch. A good year can happen, and the next one might be less good.

Tinting is more or less visible depending on how each individual display is assembled and cut. These are mass-produced items made in factories: some turn out perfect, others less so. They are very delicate panels (many extremely thin layers stacked on top of each other), and manufacturers certainly can’t afford to discard a large percentage of panels just because they aren’t as perfect as we “picky” users would like.
 
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Wrong, tinting is not caused by brightness war. All oled screen in the planet can have tinting. Tv, smartphones, etc.
For sure tv and smarphone screens could have a different manufacturers, but both are still oled display. With many layers one of the top of the other that can ‘shift’ colors and generate tinting.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they have different manufacturing processes; they are still both panels using that type of technology and can have the same issues. Samsung panels have different manufacturing processes from LG’s, but both can show tinting (whether green, red, yellow, or blue). Why? Because they are both OLED.

And, for the record, the RTINGS article I posted was only meant to point out that each production year is a case in itself, and in some years panels are on average better or worse depending on the batch. A good year can happen, and the next one might be less good.

Tinting is more or less visible depending on how each individual display is assembled and cut. These are mass-produced items made in factories: some turn out perfect, others less so. They are very delicate panels (many extremely thin layers stacked on top of each other), and manufacturers certainly can’t afford to discard a large percentage of panels just because they aren’t as perfect as we “picky” users would like.
Then why do Samsung tv qd oled panels have zero tinting meanwhile lg woled panels do? Especially the brighter lg woleds using mla and tandem panels typically have worse tinting than their dimmer conventional oleds. Check out the rtings review of the g5 which is the brightest oled on the market and you will see it’s off axis tint is the worse out of any oled tv ever made. That obviously proves that different panel techs have different levels of tinting.
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Then why do Samsung tv qd oled panels have zero tinting meanwhile lg woled panels do? Especially the brighter lg woleds using mla and tandem panels typically have worse tinting than their dimmer conventional oleds. Check out the rtings review of the g5 which is the brightest oled on the market and you will see it’s off axis tint is the worse out of any oled tv ever made. That obviously proves that different panel techs have different levels of tinting.
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Tinting on OLED screens is a phenomenon that has always existed (and can be observed). It’s not a recent issue. Even a Samsung display can have tinting. Maybe to a lesser extent in terms of percentage? Perhaps. But it can still have it. Otherwise, all iPhones with Samsung displays would be free of it. And instead, as always, it varies from panel to panel.
 
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Anyway, I noticed in some Instagram reels some girls who have a Pro Max that looks like a Samsung… how did I figure it out? From the reddish tinting on white screens 😂
I swear they're all slightly reddish. My old G9N 15 PM too. The 16 PM by my brother-in-law looked at today: also reddish, Samsung G9P.

But, you have to be honest: this is usually only noticeable if you put a white comparison device next to it. Ours are very white, so we notice it immediately.
 
Tinting on OLED screens is a phenomenon that has always existed (and can be observed). It’s not a recent issue. Even a Samsung display can have tinting. Maybe to a lesser extent in terms of percentage? Perhaps. But it can still have it. Otherwise, all iPhones with Samsung displays would be free of it. And instead, as always, it varies from panel to panel.
I have VERY good eyes - and I noticed on all (!) Samsung Displays this tinting too! But not so pronounced as with the LG displays.
 
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I have VERY good eyes - and I noticed on all (!) Samsung Displays this tinting too! But not so pronounced as with the LG displays.
The point is that, in my opinion, that red tint is noticeable even from the front : it is not just something you can see only when looking at the screen from certain angels. And, honestly, i don't like it so much. In the end, every display can have its own 'characteristics' (or flaws). Yes, the LG one is really white when viewed from the front.
 
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Anyway, I noticed in some Instagram reels some girls who have a Pro Max that looks like a Samsung… how did I figure it out? From the reddish tinting on white screens 😂
Meanwhile a reference mastering monitor is more red than the reddest of “reddish” iPhones. Most people like extremely inaccurate and cool color temperatures so they classify anything less cyan heavy as being too red. Cyan is the opposite of red. This is why the default modes in most TVs have color temperature set to “cool” or “neutral” and when calibrated they are set to warm2.
 
The point is that, in my opinion, that red tint is noticeable even from the front : it is not just something you can see only when looking at the screen from certain angels. And, honestly, i don't like it so much. In the end, every display can have its own 'characteristics' (or flaws). Yes, the LG one is really white when viewed from the front.
Lg screens are piss green but too each their own. Lots of people have color deficiencies and some level of color blindness which is why they prefer inferior lg screens.
 
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Lg screens are piss green but too each their own. Lots of people have color deficiencies and some level of color blindness which is why they prefer inferior lg screens.
I definitely don't have a piss-green display, nor is it yellowish; I look very closely! Samsung displays are warmer, that's just a fact. If you're lucky, that's all it is (like with my 15 PM), if not: it's reddish or not uniform.
 
I definitely don't have a piss-green display, nor is it yellowish; I look very closely! Samsung displays are warmer, that's just a fact. If you're lucky, that's all it is (like with my 15 PM), if not: it's reddish or not uniform.
Have you had a professionally calibrated display to match it with? Or have you ever seen a mastering monitor? If not, your subjective assessment of the Samsung screen as being reddish is nothing more than an opinion and a preference of whites that push more towards blue/cyan. I’ve had my Samsung iPhone screen next to professionally calibrated d65 display and it is slightly cooler, more cyan.
 
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