Yes and no. The younger the child the more control and influence a parent has. Once that kid becomes a tween or teen that influence is much less. You hope the kids make good choices but peer pressure and social influence is a verifiable and confirmed phenomena.
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The Helicopter Parent thing is a very real issue. When I went to college I basically was only going to talk to my parents when I came home for break. If I wanted to call, I had to use a public pay phone. Now parents try to come up and meet with college professors to discuss their college kid's education and even their specific assignments. College kids will literally hand their phone over to the professor so professor can talk to their parents or so the parents can join the meeting.
But that said, the amount of exposure kids have to strangers through the internet is very different than when we were kids. Sure you got exposed to strangers walking down the street, but at least when the kids was at school or at home they weren't being exposed to strangers.
But that said, the amount of exposure kids have to strangers through the internet is very different than when we were kids. Sure you got exposed to strangers walking down the street, but at least when the kids was at school or at home they weren't being exposed to strangers.
The problem began when the parents decided to 1) give their Apple ID credential to a third party and 2) disable 2FA. Both of these are entirely against Apple's (or any OS vendor's) security recommendations.
That action already compromised the security of these accounts, and everything after is just a matter of the degree they are compromised.
You want to monitor your kids? Ok, then use Apple's built-in parental controls in iOS to disable features you don't want them using and other tools such as Find My Friends.
That action already compromised the security of these accounts, and everything after is just a matter of the degree they are compromised.
You want to monitor your kids? Ok, then use Apple's built-in parental controls in iOS to disable features you don't want them using and other tools such as Find My Friends.
No, and a fictional story isn’t real life. I don’t advocate helicopter parenting, either, but there is a middle ground between over-protectiveness and over-permissiveness.
It needs to be jailbroken (iOS), just update the phone to the latest iOS just after you received it from an employer, it will probably break iOS, reinstall iOS to the latest (iOS mostly only allows the latest version) and you're safe since there is no jailbreak (yet) for the latest iOS version, and it also removes the spy app.
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When kids mature and be on their own after their teenage, they can be let on their own by which time they probably would have gained sufficient knowledge and discretion on various choices(good/bad/ugly) while dealing with external world.
But the responsibility of the parents is to ensure that their kids are ready for that at the RIGHT time.
Any opportunity that minimises this exposure to the undesirable elements at the WRONG time will be explored by all responsible parents whether it works or not is immaterial for them.
"Plaintext passwords for the children's Apple ID were also among the data set,"
Wow. Plaintext passwords. Why would they do that? Why would anyone do that?
Wow. Plaintext passwords. Why would they do that? Why would anyone do that?
Do you think kids just magically grow into adults? They're gonna learn from you, they're gonna learn from someone else, or they're gonna remain juvenile manchildren.
I don't think that would hold up in court,
"Contracts need to meet a basic standard of not being “unconscionable”. This means they must not contain any terms that are so manifestly unjust or one-sided that they go against fundamental notions of fairness."
If you are into Sci-Fi, I highly recommend the episode "Arkangel" from the 4th season of the Netflix series "Dark Mirror". It deals with the subject of a helicopter parent using the latest technology to "protect" their daughter... it doesn't end well.
Yep. Get them accustomed to having ZERO privacy so it won't seem at all odd for employers, insurance companies, credit bureaus, advertisers and big brother to monitor every aspect of their life (minutes of exercise per day, what time they go to bed, what they buy, what they read, etc.).
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I don't think one person's privacy is more or less important than anyone else's, but certainly there's much less sensitive information on a child's phone than there is on the average adult's.
Oh c’mon parents have been “spying” on their kids since there have been parents and kids. It’s nothing new.
Kids think they are invincible sometimes and do dumb s**t even though they have been taught the dangers of such.
I recently saw a social experiment where teens went out of their way to meet up with a stranger only to be shocked to see their parent.
As a parent, I let my children know I am not their friend. I will do whatever it takes to make sure they grow up healthy and well adjusted members of society. After they Move out, they can do whatever they like.
I agree, you can tell. All kids are different and you don’t know what the parents or parent is dealing with. I love how my friends who never had kids always butt in. Or the ones who babysat kids and thought they knew it all. IMO if a kid is a minor, living under the parents roof, having stuff paid for them, they don’t have privacy. They also have to earn privacy and trust just like anything else.
I spied on my kid, and I had too. Their mother and I are divorced and their mom was not a good example at all. My kid was seeing what their mom did and it caused issues. Talking to their mom did not help, so I did things my way. I also didn’t use any apps like this. Years later it payed off and I like to think that it’s because my kid knew they weren’t going to get away with it (I always caught them, and I’m very tech savvy so I know what to look for), and they saw that my wife and I are good examples.
The last few years I couldn’t be more proud of my child. I haven’t needed to check on their stuff for a few years now too (since before they even graduated high school). They are now in college, working 2 Jobs, and just a good head on their head.
So Instead of judging, and see why and the reasons.
another great post. My parents spied on me and they were not my friend. I am also not my kids friends.
If my parents were able to get grades instantly like parents can now, I would be dead
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Might I suggest doing things like knowing their Apple ID passwords, logging into their accounts frequently, and making sure they only use electronic devices in public areas of the house?
I reject your notion that giving credentials to insecure 3rd party services is somehow synonymous with “good parenting.”
Not the same sentence. Same paragraph.
To some extent they might. They can't control who their kids hang out with at school or what the kids listen to at school or when not at home. You can control social media to some extent, also, but apart from removing all access to the internet, you're left with trust or monitoring (or what people here call spying).
It is some parent's fault, and others not. A single rule doesn't fit all parents or all kids, so to blame all parents for their kids bad behavior isn't fair.
It's surprising to me that people here think kids have such a strong right to privacy, especially concerning text messages. 20 years ago, if your kid was constantly disappearing into another room to have a phone conversation with a friend, wouldn't you think something was up? Nowadays, kids don't talk (which is a whole different issue), and text everything. To NOT know what your kid is doing is, to me, a failure of a parent. You don't have to use a spying app, but you shouldn't rely on just trust.
But, I'm glad your kids are perfect.
While certainly an abominable execution, the product itself is not terrible. I’m guessing you do not have any children?
I think he was pointing out the incorrect usage of the word "mold". The original person should have used the correct word "mould". The number of people that make mistakes like this is sad, I think people need to read more, or at least check their spelling and grammar before publishing something to the internet. One of the most common misspellings that drives me nuts on forums is "loose" vs "lose".
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See my above comment. I think he was picking on the OP's incorrect use of the word "mold" versus "mould".
It isn't nearly as simple as you're trying to make it. There are many more influences on a child than from their parents, and you can't ignore that. Sometimes things happen despite the best intentions of a parent.
I know a couple that had five children. Four of the children became doctors and are very successful, but the middle child became a drug addict and can't even hold on to a job. I would not preach to my friend that his son's problems are all his fault and that he should 'own it'; it's an incredibly naive thought process there.
I'm sorry, I was not clear enough. I understand the measures one would take to remove the software from a device. In addition, the site makes it clear (I think) that it is for employer bought devices (and hopefully not for employees personal devices?)
What I am more concerned about is whether if someone grows up completely monitored their entire life into early adulthood, you'll accept that in other aspects of your life too. You'll monitor your significant other, your employees, accept it from your boss, and then you end up here http://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion