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One option I thought of is to enable Guided Access when power button is triple pressed, so the phone will be locked on the Wallet app. Otherwise Apple must implement something like this for digital ID to be viable.
I think they will do something along those lines. I mean with all the talk about privacy and unwillingness to unlock phones for investigations...
 
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I think they will do something along those lines. I mean with all the talk about privacy and unwillingness to unlock phones for investigations...
As I said already, it only works by scanning with NFC. It doesn't work like that that you hand your phone over. You scan it on an Apple Pay-like terminal then they read information on their screen. If you hand your phone to them they get nothing from your ID (since it uses biometrics/passcode to confirm it's you and you need to consent to information disclosure).
 
As I said already, it only works by scanning with NFC. It doesn't work like that that you hand your phone over. You scan it on an Apple Pay-like terminal then they read information on their screen. If you hand your phone to them they get nothing from your ID (since it uses biometrics/passcode to confirm it's you and you need to consent to information disclosure).
Right, but I think the concern is having your phone unlocked in close proximity to a police officer. At least that's how I'm interpreting it.
 
I would not want to give my unlocked iPhone to anyone (including LEO). If they clone it, all your banking info is immediately available for access by the clone. Good luck with that.

A dead battery ends your trip before it even started....
Apparently reading how it works isn't a requirement to comment but no the device never leaves your hands or even needs to be unlocked. Just tap a reader that they have to have on their person or if they don't present a physical ID. If you have a dead phone and/or a dead watch that's on you.
 
Right, but I think the concern is having your phone unlocked in close proximity to a police officer. At least that's how I'm interpreting it.
You can lock it from the moment it goes through (like you know on Apple Pay it bings or vibrates). If they grab it from you they have conducted an illegal search and seizure.

Also, Apple Pay doesn't need the phone itself to be unlocked. If you're careful you can keep it from unlocking by covering up the FaceID sensors. Then uncover the sensors to enable the biometric authentication but it doesn't unlock the phone just by using Apple Wallet cards. At least that's how it is today with regular old payment cards.
 
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As I said already, it only works by scanning with NFC. It doesn't work like that that you hand your phone over. You scan it on an Apple Pay-like terminal then they read information on their screen. If you hand your phone to them they get nothing from your ID (since it uses biometrics/passcode to confirm it's you and you need to consent to information disclosure).

If I was to venture a guess, it probably works much like Apple pay in so much as the merchant's computer never sees your actual credit card number. Your phone's NFC device interfaces with the pin pad, the pin pad communicates with Apple's servers and generates a one time transaction token to complete the payment.

Replace pin pad with handheld reader, and Apple's servers still act as the go between with the reader device and the DMV's database. The ID information would show up on the official's data terminal at either the airport on in a police car.

You never unlock your phone, or lose possession of it, or have any of your information visible. Same as using it at Target to pay for cat food.

Also consider, since Apple pay requires the use of your touch ID, face ID, or passcode to complete the transaction, it's more secure for the end user.

Someone can't steal your phone based ID and use it for themselves to scoot around on a suspended DL and rack up tickets like they can with a card DL.
 
So far, I am not a fan of a separate music app just for classical music. How confusing is that?

Perhaps in due time, the classic music app and regular music app will converge and this is just a stage for Apple to properly sort out how to best implement the appropriate metadata before merging it back with the regular music app?
 
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If I was to venture a guess, it probably works much like Apple pay in so much as the merchant's computer never sees your actual credit card number. Your phone's NFC device interfaces with the pin pad, the pin pad communicates with Apple's servers and generates a one time transaction token to complete the payment.

Replace pin pad with handheld reader, and Apple's servers still act as the go between with the reader device and the DMV's database. The ID information would show up on the official's data terminal at either the airport on in a police car.

You never unlock your phone, or lose possession of it, or have any of your information visible. Same as using it at Target to pay for cat food.

Also consider, since Apple pay requires the use of your touch ID, face ID, or passcode to complete the transaction, it's more secure for the end user.

Someone can't steal your phone based ID and use it for themselves to scoot around on a suspended DL and rack up tickets like they can with a card DL.
You don't have to venture a guess, it was literally described this way in the first articles written about the digital ID when it was announced :)
 
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Also, Apple Pay doesn't need the phone itself to be unlocked. If you're careful you can keep it from unlocking by covering up the FaceID sensors. Then uncover the sensors to enable the biometric authentication but it doesn't unlock the phone just by using Apple Wallet cards. At least that's how it is today with regular old payment cards.
Interesting, I never noticed this, but it makes sense)
 
Phone based ID, hotel room keys, etc only really have value to me if phones start to see 3-5x their current battery life. You go out sightseeing for a day, taking photos and videos with your phone, and you can wind up back at the hotel with a dead or near dead phone. I've done it, and trudged back down to the desk to get a keycard. Fortunately, I had my actual ID with me to show them, or I'd have been asking for a phone charger so I could show them my ID.

It probably works a lot of the time, but not to the point that I'd stop carrying a key card or my ID because of my phone.
Good point. On the flip side - I have lost my wallet and its a hassle getting your dl replaced and getting new cards (with new numbers that then have to be updated wherever you have subscriptions). An all digital wallet future will be convinient at many levels. (Lifetime battery, a la pacemakers, a plus!)
 
Spotify all the way for me on streaming music.
I quit Spotify because of the Neil Young vs Joe Rogan disaster. Happy to say the switch to Apple Music was extremely easy. Also, Apple offers lossless. At last!

So far, I am not a fan of a separate music app just for classical music. How confusing is that?
Exactly! I always play classical in the morning, but in the evening, it might be classical, indie, metal, goth, whatever. Or anything in between. There's very good classically inspired metal, for example, or extremely heavy classical. The boundaries are fluid anyway. Glass or Rzewsky fits well into pop music, like Wendy Carlos, and Autechre or Björk can be as complicated as Stravinsky. I don't see the point in erecting artificial boundaries where, in fact, there are none. So I'm hoping, if there's going to be a separate app for classical, that all classical remains accessible in the normal app as well.

Next up - a hip hop app, a samba app and a gamelan app?
 
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Why is everything so easily and seamlessly implemented in the US and takes years to get to Europe? You get stupid fines if you forget your IDs and Driver's License here. With both being on the Watch, nothing like that would need to happen.
Many European countries seem to go with their own custom solutions. My guess would be that they are reluctant to relay on technologies from foreign corporations for something as sensitive as this. I have been using an app for ID and driver's licence for a few years now, but hell will probably freeze over before there is any integration with Apple Wallet (it doesn't help that the vast majority of the market is Android).
 
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Apple finally enabled Universal Control in the macOS 12.3 and iPadOS 15.4 betas seeded a few days ago, but there are still at least three other features expected to be added to iOS later this year, including support for driver's licenses in the Wallet app.

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Below, we have listed new features that are planned for future iOS versions, along with a few features that are set to be expanded.

Driver's Licenses in Wallet App

Starting in "early 2022," residents of select U.S. states will be able to add their driver's license or state ID to the Wallet app on the iPhone and Apple Watch, providing a convenient and contactless way to display proof of identity or age.

Last year, Apple announced that Arizona and Georgia will be among the first states to support the feature and said that Connecticut, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Oklahoma, and Utah will follow. Other states like Colorado, Delaware, Florida, and Louisiana already offer their own digital ID apps and could work with Apple on Wallet app integration.

Apple said select TSA security checkpoints will be the first locations where ID cards in the Wallet app can be presented, followed by retailers and venues in the future.

Apple has yet to enable the feature in the first beta of iOS 15.4.

Square-Like Payments

Bloomberg's Mark Gurman recently reported that Apple has been working on a new feature that will turn the iPhone into a payments terminal without any additional hardware like the popular Square Reader. The feature would allow an iPhone to accept payments when another iPhone or credit card is tapped on the back of the device.

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Gurman said Apple may begin rolling out the payments feature with a software update "in the coming months," suggesting that it could be an iOS 15 feature, but it is possible that the feature could be announced as part of iOS 16 at WWDC in June.

Apple Music Classical

Last year, Apple announced that it had acquired classical music streaming service Primephonic. As part of the announcement, Apple said it plans to launch a dedicated classical music app in 2022 that combines Primephonic's best features with additional features and benefits. The app will be available to Apple Music subscribers "later this year."

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It's unclear if the Apple Music Classical app will be made available to Apple Music subscribers at no additional charge or if it will cost extra.

Feature Expansions

Apple recently announced that 3D Apple Maps will be available in the Canadian cities of Montréal, Toronto, and Vancouver later this year.

MacRumors also uncovered evidence that Hyundai's luxury brand Genesis is planning)
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to support Apple's digital car key feature, which lets users lock, unlock, and start their vehicles using a pass stored in the Wallet app on the iPhone or Apple Watch. The feature has been limited to select BMW models since launching in 2020. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said Genesis will likely roll out support for the feature by the summer.

Article Link: Three New iOS Features Expected for iPhones Later This Year
For a certain demographic this could be essential and handy. For many many not so much. My test case: I have three transit cards (2 in US one in Canada) and although I CAN add them to my wallet, I only have done so with one (West Coast). That's ok since I only use it occasionally. Good news is that my card number is findable in wallet and COULD get a card if I needed to - as long as I have the number AND actual DL etc. But in the other cases it's just too vital and risky. Also since my cards are "senior" and required ID etc. to acquire, replacing a real card or a wallet iteration is a pain no matter what and all that hard ID is then necessary anyway. Right now the wallet DL feature is years out there for me. Idaho, Arizona - are test sites to work bugs out. I'll wait, thank you.
 
Spotify all the way for me on streaming music.
Unlike ALL the others they allow people to use both folders and play lists.
On top of that they handle classical music just fine.
My listening is at least 90-95% classical music and they have been very good, no need to add another service.
I'm curious how you find specific pieces by specific conductors, specific musicians or specific orchestra's. I was never able to, not in Spotify and not in Apple Music. When I learned about Primephonic, a whole new world was opened to me. Can you help me understand how to find classical music pieces based on classical music specifics?
 
Adding all these ID cards, hotel room keys, and tickets is cool as a backup. But I'd never rely on them solely as battery life for smartphones is still not good enough to reliably get you through a long day with tons of phone usage. Unexpectedly high drain always occurs on some days, especially with many video and phone calls, or uploading/downloading in areas with suboptimal LTE/5G. Heck, high drain even occurs in areas with great reception sometimes.

The only way I'd rely on this is if there was some sort of ultra-low battery "backup" mode feature where maybe the screen is off but all your Wallet items can still be recognised through NFC.

This would also only work if all hotels and places that ask for ID are required to have operational NFC scanners at all times which isn't the case now.
 
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The only way I'd rely on this is if there was some sort of ultra-low battery "backup" mode feature where maybe the screen is off but all your Wallet items can still be recognised through NFC.
There already is. Power reserve is supposed to still allow access to these “express cards” five hours after the phone has effectively died. There is still certainly room for improvement, though.
 
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