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If you're not afraid of losing it, I would hit it hard and tether if you want until they kick you off or you get throttled.
 
uh my friend...by the nature of definition 3G data should be faster than 2G data...and you ARE defending AT&T....how can they throttle at 2GB but happily sell you a 3GB plan for the same price?

If you would of read my post you would answer your own first question. They can do what ever they want when it comes to the network. If they choose to try and get you to switch by throttleing you (in general you) because you're a data hog, so be it. I don't get throttled because I'm not a data hog. IF the time comes and they decide to throttle me I'll most likely switch to the 3gig plan for the same money.
 
Let me give another side of the coin.

Months ago I switched my iPhone away from unlimited data plan to a 4GB plan with teathering.

Quite frankly, it has been nice not worrying about getting throttled. I use my phone the way I want and am not constantly "scared" about how much data I use. Also as stated earlier, I would much rather spend the extra $10 if I go over 4GB rather than get throttled.

Basically, switching away from the unlimited plan will buy you a piece of mind.
 
AT&T underestimated how many people would stream videos 24/7 and use massive amounts of data on their iPhones with the unlimited plans ... they then made a choice that affects everyone. It sucks for the user who averages normal usage and only occasionally goes over 3GB.

However there were a lot of extreme data users.

IMO 3GB for $30 is a great deal ... here in Canada we pay double that for less data.

I get 6GB for $30 on Fido here in Canada.
 
If you would of read my post you would answer your own first question. They can do what ever they want when it comes to the network. If they choose to try and get you to switch by throttleing you (in general you) because you're a data hog, so be it. I don't get throttled because I'm not a data hog. IF the time comes and they decide to throttle me I'll most likely switch to the 3gig plan for the same money.

sure just let big corporations do whatever eh? mistreat their customers with unethical, ambiguous, vague and possibly illegal policies? AT&T should not have OVERSOLD their network...play Ostrich much? don't let that sand get in your eyes my friend...and also not everyone is a "data hog" an hour or two of skype calls a day will put you beyond 2GB quickly...also iMessgae via 3G sucks down data
 
He is exactly right. They can NOT do whatever they want with their network, their are laws and guidelines in all aspects of our lives and business's. ATT is not running a pirate ship here where they can just do anything.

You may not have the were with all to be able to distinguish a legal act from an illegal act, and it may or may not be such an act, however it is attitudes such as "they can do whatever they want" that is causing us as a society to go down hill.

Everyone just assumes because they are a big company that they dont break the law, that is an incorrect assumption. In fact most big companies out their have been sanctioned or settled out of court for breaches of the law that would cause a actual human being to be locked away for life.

AT&T TO PAY $75,000 TO SETTLE EEOC RACE DISCRIMINATION AND RETALIATION LAWSUIT
http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/8-5-09.cfm


AT&T Settles Suit Over Early Termination Fees
http://communications-media.lawyers...Settles-Suit-Over-Early-Termination-Fees.html


The law that will make AT&T pay almost $1 billion to consumers
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ake-att-pay-almost-1-billion-to-consumers.ars

'Bait and Switch' AT&T iPad 3G Suit Proceeds
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Bait-and-Switch-ATT-iPad-3G-Suit-Proceeds-115280

AT&T Connecticut Investigated For Avoiding State Taxes Over Trademark Royalties
http://www.courant.com/business/hc-att-royalties-0617.artjun17,0,2569956.story


AT&T & Apple Being Investigated By FCC On Google Voice App; FCC Letters
http://moconews.net/article/419-att-apple-being-investigated-by-fcc-on-google-voice-app/

AT&T Class Action Settlement
http://www.corp.att.com/attsettle/


AT&T loses corporate privacy case, war of "words"
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/att-loses-corporate-privacy-case-war-words


AT&T Loses Tax Refund Case: Wanted USF Income Treated As “Contributions to Capital”
http://stopthecap.com/2011/10/04/at...f-income-treated-as-contributions-to-capital/


AT&T Loses Suit Over Telemarketing Calls
http://www.stopjunkcalls.com/at&t.htm


AT&T To Pay $17 Million For USF Over-Charging
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-To-Pay-17-Million-For-USF-OverCharging-99263


AT&T to Pay TiVo $215M-Plus to Settle DVR Fight
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=215967&site=lr_cable

AT&T Antitrust
http://www.cybertelecom.org/notes/att_antitrust.htm


and so on, and so on, and so on......

It is obvious by the record that ATT is a carer criminal (if it were a human it would be locked away for life) and anyone who trusts them without question is just being naive.
 
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I do believe many corporations are pushing the limits to see what they can get away with. If unchallenged, then they win.
If AT&T gets away with this practice, soon the others will follow and then we are all SOL.
Voice your opinions now and file a complaint while we can do something about it.
 
also iMessgae via 3G sucks down data

What are you smoking? You won't even notice iMessage, even on a 200MB plan. It's just that tiny of an amount of data.

I do believe many corporations are pushing the limits to see what they can get away with. If unchallenged, then they win.
If AT&T gets away with this practice, soon the others will follow and then we are all SOL.
Voice your opinions now and file a complaint while we can do something about it.

File a complaint about WHAT? AT&T has the right to manage their network, and that is in the contract that you signed. If you didn't agree with the contract, then you should have gotten service with another provider.

Also, you don't have any right to degrade my quality of service, just because you want to suck down absurdly large amounts of data.
 

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What are you smoking? You won't even notice iMessage, even on a 200MB plan. It's just that tiny of an amount of data.



File a complaint about WHAT? AT&T has the right to manage their network, and that is in the contract that you signed. If you didn't agree with the contract, then you should have gotten service with another provider.

Also, you don't have any right to degrade my quality of service, just because you want to suck down absurdly large amounts of data.

iMessage uses more data than a regular sms...delivery notifications, read recipts, and the little animation that shows when the other person is typing...you probably don't even look at your cellphone bill to notice this...SMH and nobody is degrading your quality of service by using more data...you seem to believe the BS the pr department at AT&T puts out...don't worry when you turn your back AT&T will slip it in with no lube too
 
What are you smoking? You won't even notice iMessage, even on a 200MB plan. It's just that tiny of an amount of data.



File a complaint about WHAT? AT&T has the right to manage their network, and that is in the contract that you signed. If you didn't agree with the contract, then you should have gotten service with another provider.

Also, you don't have any right to degrade my quality of service, just because you want to suck down absurdly large amounts of data.

First of all I'm not "sucking down absurdly large amounts of data". I'm not one of the people that jail-broke, tethered and took advantage of unlimited data. There's a point when fairness comes into play here. Yes, AT&T does have the right to manage their network and that means that they should do everything they can to make their customers happy.... especially unlimited data plan users who have been with them even longer. Like someone said in another blog, "If there aren't enough seats at the dinner table, don't invite more people". They've got lots of new customers signing capped data plans and making a ton of money. Managing their network means managing it for ALL of their customers. If they can find a way to stop people who tether by jail breaking their iPhones and "abusing the network", I'm all for it, but don't come after me because I'm using 2 gigs one month and then 4 gigs another month.

Honestly, we wouldn't even be having these problems if we just had more choices as far as carriers are concerned.
 
iMessage uses more data than a regular sms...delivery notifications, read recipts, and the little animation that shows when the other person is typing...you probably don't even look at your cellphone bill to notice this...SMH and nobody is degrading your quality of service by using more data...you seem to believe the BS the pr department at AT&T puts out...don't worry when you turn your back AT&T will slip it in with no lube too

I wasn't comparing it to regular SMS, because that's largely irrelevant, since SMS isn't data. It is a VERY TINY amount of data. That's an incredibly stupid comment, as looking at one's cell phone bill to show them how much data they use wouldn't show iMessage, because a few KB of data for iMessage mixed in with hundreds of MBs of other data traffic isn't going to show ANYTHING. One web page load, and you've used more than iMessage will use in a month.

First of all I'm not "sucking down absurdly large amounts of data". I'm not one of the people that jail-broke, tethered and took advantage of unlimited data. There's a point when fairness comes into play here. Yes, AT&T does have the right to manage their network and that means that they should do everything they can to make their customers happy.... especially unlimited data plan users who have been with them even longer. Like someone said in another blog, "If there aren't enough seats at the dinner table, don't invite more people". They've got lots of new customers signing capped data plans and making a ton of money. Managing their network means managing it for ALL of their customers. If they can find a way to stop people who tether by jail breaking their iPhones and "abusing the network", I'm all for it, but don't come after me because I'm using 2 gigs one month and then 4 gigs another month.

Honestly, we wouldn't even be having these problems if we just had more choices as far as carriers are concerned.

Adding more crappy carriers into the mix would make things worse, as it would further fracture the network build outs and spectrum.

Tethering isn't an issue, it's total data use. You don't necessarily use more when tethering.
 
BTW, does this have anything to do with being a iphone 4S owner, or is it across the board?
 
Like a lot of folks on here, I'm disappointed about how AT&T is addressing the throttling issue. Last year we were all told that throttling was designed to limit very heavy users. Now the threshold has been lowered to the 2 gig level that was the old mainstream plan and 50% lower than the current $30 plan.

When I look at my personal data usage for a year, I used between 1-2.5 gigs a month. I averaged around 1.8 gigs.

Ever since the throttling stories came out, I find myself worrying about data to the point my data usage is about half it's normal rate. And now I'm wondering why. If you feel like you're limiting the use of your phone, is it worth the unlimited data plan?

If I was buying a phone today, the 3GB/$30 plan would be perfect. And if there was a crazy month where I used half a gig more than I ever had...the cost would be a measly $10. I'd much rather pony up $10 than have my device brought to a screeching halt.

The only thing keeping me from switching today is that it means AT&T's heavy handed ways forced me into switching. While I don't think the letters to the FCC or threats of a class action suit will amount to anything, I do think it's important that AT&T get the message how their customers feel.

I understood that $30 unlimited wasn't going to last forever. AT&T hasn't offered an unlimited data plans in 18 months. Rumors have been around for years it would likely go away with LTE. But being forced to switch or heavily modify phone usage just leaves a bad taste.

But I have to admit, I'm really tempted to just move the 3 gig plan and be done with it. Has anybody else made the jump?

When was the 2GB plan ever $15/month? AFAIK it's been $25/month since they had it.

If you average 1.8GB/month in usage, why wouldn't you have switched in the first place? IMO AT&T would have been doing you a favor by saving you $5/month with the 2GB plan.

The way I look at it now though, if you don't want to get throttled (assuming 2GB is in fact the cap), then switch to the 3GB plan. It won't cost anymore. So why complain?
 
I can see both sides of the argument here. I can see how other users may get the feeling that their experience may get downgraded due to my data use. However when the salesmen explained my contract to me he said that with my unlimited data plan I got unlimited data on the 3g network and that is what I expect. ATT should not have pushed their unlimited data to everyone so hard if they didn't have the network to back it which they obviously don't. So try and see our frustration, we signed for unlimited data and now we expect it, and throttling me is unacceptable as no one mentioned throttling when I bought the plan on my BlackBerry many moons ago.
 
I wasn't comparing it to regular SMS, because that's largely irrelevant, since SMS isn't data. It is a VERY TINY amount of data. That's an incredibly stupid comment, as looking at one's cell phone bill to show them how much data they use wouldn't show iMessage, because a few KB of data for iMessage mixed in with hundreds of MBs of other data traffic isn't going to show ANYTHING. One web page load, and you've used more than iMessage will use in a month.

just as I thought you don't review your billing statement... go look at your bill, I've looked at mine to see that iMessage has contributed to an increase in data use...I rely solely on texting and iMessage for foriegn contacts...I know how the bill looked before iMessage and how it looks now
 
just as I thought you don't review your billing statement... go look at your bill, I've looked at mine to see that iMessage has contributed to an increase in data use...I rely solely on texting and iMessage for foriegn contacts...I know how the bill looked before iMessage and how it looks now

You're either sending pictures or videos through iMessage, or something else is going on. If you use it just for text, there will be no noticeable increase in data usage. You're looking at 1MB for 4,000 iMessages. That's nothing. There's nothing to review on my billing statement, because one webpage would overshadow iMessage's data use.
 
You're either sending pictures or videos through iMessage, or something else is going on. If you use it just for text, there will be no noticeable increase in data usage. You're looking at 1MB for 4,000 iMessages. That's nothing. There's nothing to review on my billing statement, because one webpage would overshadow iMessage's data use.

thank you for considering the possibility that I use iMessgae MORE than you, and possibly in different ways...sheesh
 
thank you for considering the possibility that I use iMessgae MORE than you, and possibly in different ways...sheesh

You're claiming that iMessage itself for normal use as a partial replacement to SMS slurps down data, which is wrong. Then you're sending picture messages through it. Well DUH it's going to use data if you send picture messages. MMS uses data too, AT&T just doesn't bill it as data. Still not a huge amount, but possibly a noticeable amount if you are sending a crapload of messages.
 
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