Display industry has lost its ambition of more than 4K display for a while now.
no I'm not paying $5K for 6K XDR Display.
no I'm not paying $5K for 6K XDR Display.
I wonder will this standard make it to televisions.
Intel today previewed the next generation of Thunderbolt, which would enable ultra-fast data transfer speeds and improved external display support on future Macs that incorporate the standard when it launches in 2023 or later.
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The next generation of Thunderbolt will deliver up to 80 Gbps of bandwidth in each direction, allowing for up to 2× faster data transfer speeds between future Macs and external storage drives that support the standard compared to current speeds. The next generation of Thunderbolt will also have a mode that allows for up to 120 Gbps bandwidth for external displays, which would allow a Mac to support up to dual 8K displays at 60Hz.
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The latest 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are equipped with Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports with up to 40 Gbps of bandwidth in each direction.
Currently, no Macs support 8K displays on a plug-and-play basis. The latest 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models support up to two or three external displays at up to 6K@60Hz depending on whether the laptop is configured with the M1 Pro or M1 Max chip.
The next generation of Thunderbolt is based on the newly released USB4 version 2.0 and DisplayPort 2.1 specifications, and it is backwards compatible with previous versions of Thunderbolt, USB, and DisplayPort. Intel plans to share more details about the next generation of Thunderbolt's official name, features, and capabilities in 2023.
Article Link: 'Thunderbolt 5' Would Enable Dual 8K Display Support and More on Macs
twice the speed so $260.they already want $130 bucks for a thunderbolt 4 cable, can't even imagine how expensive this'll be
USB-C is a connector only. It does not define speed or protocols. Thunderbolt 3/4 and Many flavors of USB use USB-C connector.WHY?
Why does a USB-C enclosure for an NVME drive cost under twenty dollars but a Thunderbolt enclosure is $120 plus?
USB-C is a connector only. It does not define speed or protocols. Thunderbolt 3/4 and Many flavors of USB use USB-C connector.
A $20 USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 enclosure will not allow the full speed of the SSD. You need USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gbps) to get close to what a SSD can do and those enclosures are not $20.
Apple would have to incorporate Intel proprietary DRM hardware into their SoC to access the PCIe directly. Why? Since TB 4 Intel made it a requirement. Intel opensourced TB 3 and older, but not TB 4 and newer.Probably 2024 to get it in Macs, right?
Apple would have to incorporate Intel proprietary DRM hardware into their SoC to access the PCIe directly. Why? Since TB 4 Intel made it a requirement. Intel opensourced TB 3 and older, but not TB 4 and newer.
The following image shows why Apple has TB 3 and USB 4, not TB 4/USB 4.
Didn’t take long for the "I hate Tim Cook Society” members to come on board. It took only 12 minutes since the story was posted.Thunderbolt is one of the standards supported by USB-C, but thanks to Tim Cook’s mediocrity, even the latest iPhone 14 Pro models are still stuck on Lightning, which delivers USB 2.0 speeds. See the thread in the link below for more details:
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Will iPhone 14 be USB 2.0? Probably, since Cook is mediocre.
Apple computers have had USB 3.0 since mid-2012. That is 10 years ago. Despite that, Tim Cook, being the mediocre beancounter MBA suit that he is, has still not done anything to upgrade the connectivity on the latest iPhones. The latest iPhones use the same USB 2.0 connectivity that shipped with...forums.macrumors.com
I was hoping 8K TV would become popular just so it would bring down the costs and increase the availability on 8K monitors, or I could use an 8K TV as a monitor. There's not really much point in getting an 8K display for watching video, though.Display industry has lost its ambition of more than 4K display for a while now.
no I'm not paying $5K for 6K XDR Display.
If im in the Apple Store and I move the pointer on a Mac Studio with Pro Display XDR and compare it to moving the pointer on a M1 MacBook Pro, the XDR feels like the pointer is underwater- slow and sluggish. Same for all 4k screens I try and exacerbated if MacOS is performing scaling. Now we're cueing up 8k.
Wonder if that will ever be worked out? "Supporting" a screen is one thing, but I still have to pass if it feels sluggish. Is it just me?
I hear you but let’s put it into perspective, a 65inch tv 8K is 135PPI, that’s sad since the phone you’re holding has 400+ PPI.I was hoping 8K TV would become popular just so it would bring down the costs and increase the availability on 8K monitors, or I could use an 8K TV as a monitor. There's not really much point in getting an 8K display for watching video, though.
Totally. People are always looking at the next thing and never being happy with what is offered.I can’t wait till they finally come out with TB20 so I can use 4 100K monitors because I can see all the pixels on a 4K monitor.
Not really. Anyone who sits (at best) an arms length away from a TV monitor has more problems than being able to see pixel density.I hear you but let’s put it into perspective, a 65inch tv 8K is 135PPI, that’s sad since the phone you’re holding has 400+ PPI.
We won’t see 8K content anytime soon but technology isn’t progressing that fast ether.
Slow and sluggish are settings you can change in settings. Mouse sensitivityIf im in the Apple Store and I move the pointer on a Mac Studio with Pro Display XDR and compare it to moving the pointer on a M1 MacBook Pro, the XDR feels like the pointer is underwater- slow and sluggish. Same for all 4k screens I try and exacerbated if MacOS is performing scaling. Now we're cueing up 8k.
Wonder if that will ever be worked out? "Supporting" a screen is one thing, but I still have to pass if it feels sluggish. Is it just me?