Wouldn't 10gbps be 1250 MB/s??
10gbps = 10,000mbps
10,000mbps/8 = 1250MB/s
Or is my bit-to-byte math off somewhere?
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10gbps = 10,000mbps
10,000mbps/8 = 1250MB/s
Or is my bit-to-byte math off somewhere?
There is protocol overhead, but during the presentation Intel said that it is very small for TB. SATA or whatever they were using probably still has a big overhead. Then you have to imagine hard drive speed is a possible bottleneck.
The article says:
So yes, the current copper tech has power. Your ability to power a drive would depend upon the power consumption requirements of the drive in question.
Mm, I just renovating and I need to add my UTP/COAX cables next week.
Should we start thinking about Lightpeak cables?
What kind of cables should we use? Can we add our own connectors? Or is it premade in factory?
And what is the maximum length?
Should we start thinking about Lightpeak cables?
What kind of cables should we use? Can we add our own connectors? Or is it premade in factory?
And what is the maximum length?
(I think you mean devices that charge batteries via USB cable...)
Same question though, but for more generic devices like SD card readers or our USB thumb drives. With no power how would a TB thumb drive work? Or does USB really have to stick around?
Oh dear...you dont actually think a Mac Pro isnt a desktop PC do you?
We all love our macs, but dont be so pathetic. "Oh no they are using a dell...fools!"
I understand the "realistic" bandwidth of the connection will be less, but the way the news post is worded makes it sound like the theoretical limit of the spec is 900MB/s, when by my math 10gbps is 1250MB/s.
it means docking one Laptop<->Display cable in your computer and you're done with Display, keyboard, mouse and that kind of stuff. This makes using Laptop as a Desktop really useful
It also means to copy 5 Gigs of photos in just a few seconds. For me, this sounds appealing
Most of these advantages will be seen in future, but someone has to start!
And since everything is backwards compatible (see engadget report, all Apple-adapters are working fine), I don't really see any problems with Thunderbolt...
I already use a cross-platform USB2-based "dock" with keyboard, mouse, iphone docks, external hard drive and displaylink-driven 2nd monitor.
USB2 runs at 60MB/s... ThunderBolt runs at 125GB/s ... about 20x faster.
Home docking stations just got a whole lot more awesome!
As the other guy pointed out, it has 10W of power running through it. That's not enough for full-sized monitors. USB monitors, though (obviously) but those aren't very big.
Just thinking out loud here, but would this kind of bandwidth make external graphics cards viable? Imagine taking your MA out into the wild during the day, then plugging in a top of the line graphics card at home and daisy chaining it into a 2560x1600 30" beastly monitor and playing Crysis 2 at ultra settings.
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Eventually
Could one thunderbolt to thunderbolt and clone a Mac mini to Mac Book in less than 5 minutes?
Eventually
Could one thunderbolt to thunderbolt and clone a Mac mini to Mac Book in less than 5 minutes?
Just thinking out loud here, but would this kind of bandwidth make external graphics cards viable? Imagine taking your MA out into the wild during the day, then plugging in a top of the line graphics card at home and daisy chaining it into a 2560x1600 30" beastly monitor.
Yes! Although you might needs some power cords along the way.
does anyone know of when HDD manufactures like lacie and gtech are going to come out with drives for these? are they going to be SSD or HDD? Over 2 TB. Nothing takes up more space then HD video (converted to pro-ress)
Ill just be glad, in future, to have ONE kind of cable for everything... and the same on both ends. Its amazing weve come this far and still have SO many common cable types on our devices!
I wouldnt say no to seeing audio/home theater devices shift to Thunderbolt, in fact.
And I wouldnt say no to ditching the iOS dock connector in favor of Thunderbolt, either. Im assuming (for the powered version) that it can do everything necessary. They could sell adapters to ease the transition and support old accessories.
And iOS devices could ship with a cord that has USB on the computer end and Thunderbolt on the device end (because legacy compatibility is still important).
I wouldnt say no to seeing audio/home theater devices shift to Thunderbolt, in fact.
And I wouldnt say no to ditching the iOS dock connector in favor of Thunderbolt, either. Im assuming (for the powered version) that it can do everything necessary. They could sell adapters to ease the transition and support old accessories.
And iOS devices could ship with a cord that has USB on the computer end and Thunderbolt on the device end (because legacy compatibility is still important).
LaCie has already committed to it, so I would guess this year, definitely.does anyone know of when HDD manufactures like lacie and gtech are going to come out with drives for these? are they going to be SSD or HDD? Over 2 TB. Nothing takes up more space then HD video (converted to pro-ress)
Nobody's given time frames that I've seen, but OWC did say "I can confidently say youll find Thunderbolt equipped products on our site during 2011." http://blog.macsales.com/9029-apple-store-down-light-peak-ipad-2-macbook-pros#comments
I think we'll see stuff <6 months.
it means from now on you have an external PCI bus on every freaking Mac.
If that doesn't get you excited, I don't know what will...
Just thinking out loud here, but would this kind of bandwidth make external graphics cards viable? Imagine taking your MA out into the wild during the day, then plugging in a top of the line graphics card at home and daisy chaining it into a 2560x1600 30" beastly monitor and playing Crysis 2 at ultra settings.
I like your thinking. It would be a great way to upgrade, without having to open the computer.
How long before this comes to a Mac Pro? ...or
How long before this comes to a Mac Pro? ...or
will I able to drop a thunderbolt PCI card into ANY current MAC pro without losing any bandwidth / read speed.....
Im a composer. For us orchestral guys its all about polyphony ( as in how many audio voices can stream from RAID disks at the same time) so this technology is BIG news for those of us who use huge sample libraries and need the ability to stream 1000s of voices @ the same time....
best,
SvK
How long before this comes to a Mac Pro? ...or
will I able to drop a thunderbolt PCI card into ANY current MAC pro without losing any bandwidth / read speed.....
Im a composer. For us orchestral guys its all about polyphony ( as in how many audio voices can stream from RAID disks at the same time) so this technology is BIG news for those of us who use huge sample libraries and need the ability to stream 1000s of voices @ the same time....
best,
SvK
Today Thunderbolt might seem like overkill to you but this tech will be in our computer products for the next 5-8 years. By the end of that cycle this tech will seem to be a little slow and we'll be looking for a faster bus.
Remember no one needs more than 640k of memory in their computer!
it means from now on you have an external PCI bus on every freaking Mac.
If that doesn't get you excited, I don't know what will...
*Every freaking Mac does not include MacBook, MacBook Air, iMac, Mac Mini, or Mac Pro. (for the time being)