Yeah I know quite a few "Apple haters" running Linux, Windows etc on MacBook pros. Or air, you can't get a nicer laptop for the price (unless you're one of those "on paper" spec people, but these Pro's (sysadmin, developers, engineers) know better. They typically don't have iPhones but probably would if you could load other OS' on them too!
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Thunderbolt Display Stock Limited at Apple Stores Ahead of WWDC
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This is correct, but it just comes down to whether Apple is willing to ship a 5K Thunderbolt 3 display using MST (multi-stream transport). MacRumors' coverage on this has insinuated that they wouldn't, which would mean a wait until Cannonlake in 2017 for full DisplayPort 1.3 support allowing 5K over SST (single-stream transport).
The question then becomes whether people would want to buy a semi-bandaid solution for a 5K display, when the cleaner SST connection is probably 10-14 months away from becoming a reality.
It's a source of revenue. Personally, I'd prefer an Apple screen over my junky, plastic 4K Dell monitor (that doesn't play super nice with my MBP). You'd have to be an idiot to pay $999 CAD for a current gen thunderbolt display. Not sure why they skipped the 4K generation.
With the lack of processor support until probably 2017, as described in the article, is a new display even in the cards?
"DisplayPort 1.3 has increased bandwidth, but Skylake-based Macs with Thunderbolt 3 will not support the spec and Intel's next-generation Kaby Lake processors on track for a late 2016 launch will not as well. Apple could opt to release a 4K Thunderbolt Display instead, but supply chain considerations make this unlikely, so the company's exact plans for the future of its standalone display remain to be seen."
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... and a new Mac Pro - 2013 was a long time ago.
I say they should just bring back the 30" ACD. Who knows how old mine is, and it still looks beautiful, and is going on strong. It has a matte finish, and it looks oh-so-pretty. Upgrade the connectors. Maybe add a camera (although the iSight does look cool). Ship it with a retina or non-retina 2440 by 1600 option, and you can count me in... when my ACD breaks. 
As much as I'd like to see a new Thunderbolt 3/USB-C by Apple, I think it's just as likely they may be exiting the display market.
Keep in mind the number of Thunderbolt Displays is a small fraction compared to the number of machines Apple makes that could pair with it. And, it's pretty unlikely Apple would implement a less than ideal solution like MST in order to drive a 5k display.
We've gone from Apple offering displays in a variety of sizes, to one size, so it wouldn't be surprising if they stopped making them all together.
Keep in mind the number of Thunderbolt Displays is a small fraction compared to the number of machines Apple makes that could pair with it. And, it's pretty unlikely Apple would implement a less than ideal solution like MST in order to drive a 5k display.
We've gone from Apple offering displays in a variety of sizes, to one size, so it wouldn't be surprising if they stopped making them all together.
I already broke down and bought a second one after years of waiting for an update. And that was over a year ago.
Someone mentioned it earlier but would Apple be able to use 1 USB-C cable to drive video, sound, and any other "dock-type" accessory AND power a rMB(P)?
This would make the whole setup have very minimal wires. One from the wall to the display. One from the display to the rMB(P).
And this might be a stretch, but could Apple create their own connector, kind of like what they did with the ADC back in the early 2000s. IIRC, it powered the display and had USB and video.
I'm going to have to take June 13 off.
This would make the whole setup have very minimal wires. One from the wall to the display. One from the display to the rMB(P).
And this might be a stretch, but could Apple create their own connector, kind of like what they did with the ADC back in the early 2000s. IIRC, it powered the display and had USB and video.
I'm going to have to take June 13 off.
Thunderbolt uses DisplayPort internally - the DisplayPort signal is fed to the TB controller chip in the computer, munged with other signals to be sent along the TB cable, then extracted by the TB controller in the display. Its logically the same as taking a thunderbolt dock and running a DisplayPort cable to a display, just all in one box.
The fact that you can't plug in a DisplayPort connection is just an arbitrary limitation on Apple's thunderbolt display. Its quite possible to produce a display that can accept Thunderbolt, DisplayPort or HDMI input. E.g. http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-34UM95
The question is, whether makers of other displays are going to go for DisplayPort-1.2-over-Thunderbolt 3 or Displayport-1.3 in USB-C Alternate Mode.
Matte!I say they should just bring back the 30" ACD. Who knows how old mine is, and it still looks beautiful, and is going on strong. It has a matte finish, and it looks oh-so-pretty. Upgrade the connectors. Maybe add a camera (although the iSight does look cool). Ship it with a retina or non-retina 2440 by 1600 option, and you can count me in... when my ACD breaks.
Those were the quality days...
Only the late 2013 Mac Pro, late 2014 or newer 27" Retina 5K iMac, and mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro with AMD Radeon R9 M370X graphics are capable of driving 5K external displays, however, and each setup requires using two Thunderbolt cables per display. The lack of support is due to bandwidth limitations of the DisplayPort 1.2 and HDMI 1.4 specs on current Macs.
DisplayPort 1.3 has increased bandwidth, but Skylake-based Macs with Thunderbolt 3 will not support the spec and Intel's next-generation Kaby Lake processors on track for a late 2016 launch will not as well. Apple could opt to release a 4K Thunderbolt Display instead, but supply chain considerations make this unlikely, so the company's exact plans for the future of its standalone display remain to be seen.
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I'm sure Apple will introduce new Macs with Thunderbolt 3 and new 5k Thunderbolt Displays at WWDC.
IMO, the only people buying the current TBD are the clueless folks who think the Apple logo on the front makes it automatically superior. I work at a marketing company where a couple of the managers had this attitude. I tried to convince them we could give them a superior monitor for less money by using something other than that 27" TBD but they would have none of it. They specified it, and only it, for a new hire doing design work for them. (Then guess what? The guy they hired for that job was let go after less than 6 months because they reorganized things and decided they didn't need a full-time designer in the office after all.)
The monitor sat unused for months after that. I wound up putting it in storage.
So the marketing company didn't realize Apple's marketing plot?
I'm not saying I'm totally against Apple's displays. I own one, but it was several years old when I purchased it and I got it very cheap. Would I get a new one? I'd have to take into consideration all the features, like sound, how well it plays with OS X and Macs (brightness levels, single cable connection, volume, etc.). When these were new, I was leaning towards getting one, but never spent the money and just used the MB's display.
This its a capture from a pfd from https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunderbolt3_TechBrief_FINAL.pdf Thunderbolttechnolgy.net
So everibody argumenting against a 5K TB3 displays, this rebuts your saddest theories, TB3 Cinema Display is Coming.
Note the remaining 18 Gbps badwidth, enoug for 1 Thunderbolt 1 10Gbps data channel plus 1 USB3 5Gbps channel
So everibody argumenting against a 5K TB3 displays, this rebuts your saddest theories, TB3 Cinema Display is Coming.
Note the remaining 18 Gbps badwidth, enoug for 1 Thunderbolt 1 10Gbps data channel plus 1 USB3 5Gbps channel
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Lol, gotcha... so "there's no reason for Apple to stay in the HIGHLY lucrative business or rebranding other monitors & selling them for a tidy profit".
You two geniuses should go into business together, with acumen like that! =P
Walk into any Silicon Valley / SF tech company and you'll see row on row of apple displays for use with laptops. They're ubiquitous and are undoubtedly very profitable for the company considering how overpriced they are. I'm looking at one right now...
Damn, i would be stoked if they released a 30" 5k tab display. I still using my old 30" ACD and love it. I want to update it and might even buy two.
Come on Apple. Stop procrastinating on this.
Come on Apple. Stop procrastinating on this.
Btw, can anybody name any other display maker, that's biggest display is smaller than a decade ago?They will make 2 display just for you,if you ask them nicely