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Tiger Requirements!!!
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So, I'm all psyched and excited about Tiger, but I just read something that's slightly disconcerting to me. It says to "initiate" 4-way video conferencing, I need at least 1 GHz dual G4! Does this mean, with my 1GHz iMac G4, I'm still stuck with 1 on 1??? I was so excited about group conferencing? Tell me it's not so!
So, I'm all psyched and excited about Tiger, but I just read something that's slightly disconcerting to me. It says to "initiate" 4-way video conferencing, I need at least 1 GHz dual G4! Does this mean, with my 1GHz iMac G4, I'm still stuck with 1 on 1??? I was so excited about group conferencing? Tell me it's not so!
clcnyc said:Tell me it's not so!
Ok.... It isn't so.
I read that too. But my conclusion was that those are "recomended" requirements. it will probably still work. I don't imagine there being any kind of system varification process before you use iChat.
liv2wrshp said:
I was going to say...
I did something similar to that with my G3 iBook, and it worked fine. I put the DVD in my iMac G4's drive, turned on file sharing. Then connected my iBook to the iMac via AirPort, and logged onto the iMac... mounting the DVD.
From there you have access to the DVD. It was a little slower, but not much difference.
But, a Mac OS X install would require you to reboot from the DVD/CD. So I don't think sharing the DVD would work.
TigerPRO said:
While it is true that a Macmini would be very affordable, I am hesitant to go that route because of how long I must hold on to new equipment. My G3 is going on 6 yrs old. Now while I don't feel that Apple should cater to the lowest common denominator as someone else posted. What I was trying to say was that just because your hadware is old, doesn't mean that you choose to become obsolete. When I bought my G3 I went with-at the time-the top of the line, maxing it out as much as I could, because I knew it would be quite some time before I could purchase a new computer.
I don't regret staying with my machine, but I do think it is a bit short sighted to assume that just because someone works on an older machine, it must be because they want to. Just for reference Imy work consists of Flash development, video editing, animation and a great deal of Photoshop and Illustrator work.
Sorry for being long-winded, just wanted to clarify my original statement.
dotdotdot said:
It's just a nice way to eliminate older macs. FW is not needed for OS to install or function.
I think the next person to say people who don't have DVD drives in their computers should buy me a new computer.
And the next person who says all "students" do is write papers on office 98 should do my next mech eng design project.
Anyways, I understand them not wanting to put CD-ROM versions in stores, but it doesn't make much sense to order the DVDs from them online, get that shipped to your house, take the DVDs out of the box and then send em back to them and wait for the cds. Why not make the cds immediately order-able off the site?
And the next person who says all "students" do is write papers on office 98 should do my next mech eng design project.
Anyways, I understand them not wanting to put CD-ROM versions in stores, but it doesn't make much sense to order the DVDs from them online, get that shipped to your house, take the DVDs out of the box and then send em back to them and wait for the cds. Why not make the cds immediately order-able off the site?
If 400Mhz and 256MB of RAM are the minumum, I don't think I'll bother installing Tiger on my 500Mhz iBook with 384MB of RAM. I don't imagine it will do too well on there.
I'm also not sure how I'd clear off enough space on the 10GB hard drive.
I'm also not sure how I'd clear off enough space on the 10GB hard drive.
TigerPRO said:
umm to tell you the turth PS2 ports are faster than USB for keyboard and mice. They have a lot bandwith for data but then again mice and keyboards dont need to send that much data and they have more bandwith that a keyboard or mouse could ever need.
PS2 ports can run at 200hz compared to the 125hz max of a USB port. So the refresh rate for a ps2 port is higher than a USB. Figure I would correct you on that.
NONE OF YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE!!!!
They aren't pointing a gun at your head.
They aren't demanding it.
They aren't even asking you to do it.
Sorry that the newest thing doesn't run on your computer. Core Image doesn't run on mine. The lack of CD's were obviously to cut costs, as the operating system is starting to get very very big.
They aren't pointing a gun at your head.
They aren't demanding it.
They aren't even asking you to do it.
Sorry that the newest thing doesn't run on your computer. Core Image doesn't run on mine. The lack of CD's were obviously to cut costs, as the operating system is starting to get very very big.
Ktulu said:
Rather than spending $5,000 on a new uber-G5, or $800 on a Mini (I mean, who's gonna run on 256 megs of RAM?), how about spending $20 on a DVD drive? I'm right with you on the outdated Mac thing (see sig), but some upgrades are necessary...
OK GUYS please
Here is the deal if you don't have a machine with DVD then tough or get the cd version.
Sorry if you have an old blue and white or similar and can't afford an upgrade then tough stick with what you have.
Now if you have a tower then just upgrade (benq do DVD drives for about £30 that you can install). If you can't afford that then it is hard luck.
Imac users may find it much harder but then just buy an external DVD drive where possible,
Of course some people will be left behind well that is unfortunate, Apple do very well at supporting older machines, I mean we are talking about macs that are several years old on the whole.
Please move on nothing to see in the I can't install debate, you can and if you can't then don't. Simple really the world does go on.
Here is the deal if you don't have a machine with DVD then tough or get the cd version.
Sorry if you have an old blue and white or similar and can't afford an upgrade then tough stick with what you have.
Now if you have a tower then just upgrade (benq do DVD drives for about £30 that you can install). If you can't afford that then it is hard luck.
Imac users may find it much harder but then just buy an external DVD drive where possible,
Of course some people will be left behind well that is unfortunate, Apple do very well at supporting older machines, I mean we are talking about macs that are several years old on the whole.
Please move on nothing to see in the I can't install debate, you can and if you can't then don't. Simple really the world does go on.
unfaded said:
Thank you.
I know some people are disappointed that Tiger won't work on your Mac, but that is the nature of the beast.
I know school is expensive, but it's not the end of the world not to be using the most current version of an operating system.
Plus, the mini is 500 bucks...as low as 320 bucks on ebay...it's much easier to save for than any other time in the history of Apple
Enjoy Panther!
Coming from a recent convert (PC to Mac) I will say that I don't see the point in upgrading at this time. Panther is tested and works well. At some point it will be inevitable but for now, enjoy Panther while it is still at the top of its game. If widgets are that important to you or you have some other desire to get the latest and greatest then, by all means, run out and buy it (or point and click it as the case may be). For my needs, I can justify a new operating system for Widgets. I simply don't need Core Imaging to write a brief or memorandum. I am (dare I say it?) satisfied!
I've had a great experience with Panther so far and am not ready for another change. Others are probably just tired of Panther and want something for the sake of newness rather than an absolute need for the alleged 200 upgraded features. Enjoy Panther!
Here's an example of a reason to upgrade ... in the PC world there was this abomination called Windows Mellinnium Edition. XP was a must have upgrade to that travesty of an operating system. Panther, on the other hand, works well and it is much more difficult to justify the upgrade for an existing iBook or Powerbook, especially one that barely meets the minimum requirements. Again, enjoy Panther and, if you must, waste your money on Tiger. If you have a new, top of the line system that will benefit from Tiger and its features then you have a better case. It may still be weak, however, if you won't actually use the new features.
Coming from a recent convert (PC to Mac) I will say that I don't see the point in upgrading at this time. Panther is tested and works well. At some point it will be inevitable but for now, enjoy Panther while it is still at the top of its game. If widgets are that important to you or you have some other desire to get the latest and greatest then, by all means, run out and buy it (or point and click it as the case may be). For my needs, I can justify a new operating system for Widgets. I simply don't need Core Imaging to write a brief or memorandum. I am (dare I say it?) satisfied!
I've had a great experience with Panther so far and am not ready for another change. Others are probably just tired of Panther and want something for the sake of newness rather than an absolute need for the alleged 200 upgraded features. Enjoy Panther!
Here's an example of a reason to upgrade ... in the PC world there was this abomination called Windows Mellinnium Edition. XP was a must have upgrade to that travesty of an operating system. Panther, on the other hand, works well and it is much more difficult to justify the upgrade for an existing iBook or Powerbook, especially one that barely meets the minimum requirements. Again, enjoy Panther and, if you must, waste your money on Tiger. If you have a new, top of the line system that will benefit from Tiger and its features then you have a better case. It may still be weak, however, if you won't actually use the new features.
Really?
I have a 500MHz G3 PowerBook with 384MB RAM, and am definately going to try installing it. On the apple website it explains the kind of install that simply upgrades (thereby not needing all the space unless you wanted to archive your current OS). I also have about 10GB of usable space. If this PB were my only system though, i'd be a little more hesitant.
Needles to say i'll install it on my iMac G4 first for a week or two to see how it goes.
I think if your machine runs Panther OK, Tiger will be about the same, if not quicker (finder wise anyway).
miloblithe said:
I have a 500MHz G3 PowerBook with 384MB RAM, and am definately going to try installing it. On the apple website it explains the kind of install that simply upgrades (thereby not needing all the space unless you wanted to archive your current OS). I also have about 10GB of usable space. If this PB were my only system though, i'd be a little more hesitant.
Needles to say i'll install it on my iMac G4 first for a week or two to see how it goes.
I think if your machine runs Panther OK, Tiger will be about the same, if not quicker (finder wise anyway).
James Philp said:
I will try to install it on ALL my hardware (apart from my LC475 of course and my iPod
). I want to perform some tests to see how it goes. Needless to say, Panther runs in all my hardware (again excluding my LC475 which has system 7.1 and my iPod ). Look at my specs below. Even my g3 350 Mhz runs panther OK. I think it will run Tiger, too.