And now Tile trackers. That's why they bought Tile.The hardware that Life360 uses to track its users is the cell phone.
Their ethics are different, but they're both selling hardware with free software.I’m perfectly fine giving Apple money for hardware if they don’t have to sell my location data to make money.
Apple’s business model appears to be opposite that of Life 360.
There’s no ‘if’ on that deal as far as I can see. I’m chopping mine in todayI have three Tiles for keys, wallet and laptop bag and I like them but… if life360 purchase of Tile is finalized, I’ll get rid of them and purchase 3 AirTags.
Location tracking service Life360 has been selling the precise location data of tens of millions of its users, according to a new report shared by The Markup.
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Life360 bills itself as a "family safety platform" app that is meant to allow family members to keep tabs on one another with tracking software that's installed on smartphones, and there are both Android and iPhone apps.
The software is used by 33 million people around the world, and apparently, Life360 is selling location data from both children and adults to a dozen data brokers that then provide the data to other third parties. Two former Life360 employees said that Life360 is one of the largest sources of data in the industry, expressing concern for how the data is used and the lack of safeguards to prevent misuse.
The employees said that Life360 does not take precautions to ensure that location histories cannot be traced back to individuals. The most obvious user identifying information is removed, but Life360 does not aggregate data or reduce precision to preserve privacy.
Life360 CEO Chris Hulls told The Markup that data is an "important part of the business model" that allows Life360's core services to be offered for free.An engineer who worked for X-Mode, a location data provider, said that the raw location data received from Life360 was one of its "most valuable offerings" because of the "sheer volume and precision of the data." Life360 has sold data to X-Mode, Cuebiq, Arity, Safegraph, and others that provide location data to other services. Life360 discloses some of the data sharing in its privacy policy, but there are companies that it does not list.Some of the data providers only use aggregated location information sourced from Life360. Cuebiq, for example, users aggregated data to track COVID-19 "mobility trends" with the CDC. X-Mode has provided the Life360 data to the U.S. Department of Defense, and SafeGraph has also provided it to the CDC.
Life360 does make it clear in the fine print of its privacy policy that data is sold, but people may not be aware of how the data is distributed after it's provided to data brokers. "Families probably would not like the slogan, 'You can watch where your kids are, and so can anyone who buys this information,'" Duke Tech Policy Lab fellow Justin Sherman told The Markup. There is also an opt-out feature, but not all users may be aware of it.
Life360 is an app that's primarily used by parents to track their children and teenagers, and it has raised privacy concerns for its invasiveness. Life360 has said that it does not share the location data of users under 13, but data from children over 13 and adults is fair game.
Tile, a company that makes Bluetooth-based trackers that compete with Apple's AirTags, is being acquired by Life360 in a deal that's worth $205 million. Life360 says that Tile will allow it to provide an "all-encompassing solution" for locating pets, people, and things with the Tile purchase, a claim that is alarming given the privacy concerns raised in today's report.
More information on Life360's user tracking and how the data is used can be found in The Markup's full report.
Article Link: Tile Buyer Life360 Selling Precise Location Data on Millions of Users
somebody gonna get the location of every videogame arcade around the world...
All dozen of them!somebody gonna get the location of every videogame arcade around the world...
Still seems like this is confounding two different issues. Life360 just bought Tile, so anything Life360 has been doing (the subject of this article) is not really able to be generalized at this point to Tile (which seems to be the subject of this post). Further, while Tile isn't super-expensive, it's hardly close to free and isn't too different in price from similar products in the market I'm aware of (AirTags, Trackr, etc.), though they have several different form factors of differing price.Ok, almost free—subsidized with an entrance price to help you think you are the consumer rather than the consumed…
Have you used Apples’s AirTags?I was using Life360 a few years ago and I can tell you this… their live tracking is much more reliable than Apple’s Find My version lol. We’re in December and still not working properly and it was a headlining feature for iOS 15.
No, this doesn’t mean I’m going back to Life360 but sheesh I wish Apple would fix their version of it.
Came here to post exactly that.Another reason to use AirTags!
"Our mission is to solve the everyday pain point of finding lost and misplaced things "
Jesus dude, look in the app store. Life360, the app, is free. The service, is free. With them selling the data, you literally are the product. That's not mindlessly parroting something, it's a fact.Yes, but surely you need hardware to actually track. I get the difference here, my point was that this "if it's free you're the product" generalisation that's parroted over and over is dumb. Bad companies will do bad things with your data whether their service is free or not.
That's literally Apple's business model—sell you the hardware and provide the software for free. This is a dumb generalisation that people need to stop repeating.
I agree with what you said, and that’s a good point about android devices not knowing they’re being tracked. But how do you propose Apple somehow Cross-alerts an android user that they’re being tracked by AirTags? That means Apple would have to co-develop with android with their software I would assume.Free? It's only 4 bucks cheaper than a single AirTag and the same price if you buy 4 AirTags.
The only problem with AirTags is that Android users don't know if they're being tracked. Even though my family and I don't use Android, it is essential that Apple fix that ASAP.
And this is why we need a Geneva Convention level standard for data acquisition, sharing, and deletion amongst as many nations as possible. The genie has long left the bottle, the horse left the barn in another country, etc. Only way to get it back is to apply standards, regulations, and teeth to those entrusted with data. It's a royal pain in the &&& to do it but these companies have proved they are either not capable or willing to do it themselves.
Find My is free too. Am I Apple’s product? No, so that pseudo-intellectual point that people love to drag out doesn’t hold up.Jesus dude, look in the app store. Life360, the app, is free. The service, is free. With them selling the data, you literally are the product. That's not mindlessly parroting something, it's a fact.
The Life360 company is buying Tile, a company that sold (for money) a physical product to track things.
"Life360 CEO Chris Hulls told The Markup that data is an "important part of the business model" that allows Life360's core services to be offered for free."